) Yes but even DC's Bond is bound up by rules these days, recently only Patrice has been victim of lethal force order. After blowing up mi6 hq you'd have thought bond would have put one between Silvas eyes with that Glock on his island!
Other than the two in the PTS of CR and Scarria (spelling?) in SPECTRE you'll be hard pressed to find actual assassinations in the James Bond movies. He kills a lot of people, but there are hardly any cases of M ordering 007 to kill someone and he does it.
Indeed from the Books, Bond does mention ( Goldfinger, I think ) that he doesn't relish the idea of killing, but
Takes a pride in doing it well. Also with the Craig films, especially after the stairwell kill in CR. They do show
Bond having to settle himself afterwards, showing that Bond is human and not some programmed killing machine.
"I've been informed that there ARE a couple of QAnon supporters who are fairly regular posters in AJB."
This is why I enjoyed cr and qos so much. Though in cr I tend to think bond settles himself after the stairwell fight more due to the physical exertion then the actual killings.
That Stairwell fight is amazing, very brutal and believable. -{
There's also the scene in TWINE, where Bond tells Renard that "killing in cold blood was always a nasty business " ?
Although I do enjoy the Times Bond gets a little pay back. As in LTK " You earned it, You keep it !" , and in OP.
Bond pinned to a door by throwing knives ( at the time, I couldn't figure out how he'd get himself outta this one )
but manages to turn the tables " and this is for 009! "
"I've been informed that there ARE a couple of QAnon supporters who are fairly regular posters in AJB."
Trying to think of of Bond and assassination.
Obviously Prof Dent in Dr No, then not much ?
OP, Octopussy calls Bond a paid assassin.
TLD, Bond begins the story as a sniper, expected to kill. Then later sent out deliberately to kill.
TWINE, we're told an agent managed to put a bullet in him ( Renard) which I guess was an
Assassination mission. I'm sure there are others but they don't come to mind yet.
"I've been informed that there ARE a couple of QAnon supporters who are fairly regular posters in AJB."
No-one ordered Bond to kill Dent, so that isn't an assassination. There is quite a lot of talk of Bond being an assassin in the movies, but I can't think of more than the three I mentioned (note to self:Google definition of assassination)
Little fact about the word Assassin, apparently it comes from an old sect know for selling drugs
and in the beginning had nothing to do with killing ! ...... Not ally of people know that
"I've been informed that there ARE a couple of QAnon supporters who are fairly regular posters in AJB."
There are a few definition. Many claim it's a planned murder of a famous or important person, often in secret. I'm not sure.... do you agree?
The Law Dictionary says something like: a planned murder for money or ideological reasons.
My idea of an assassination was a planned killing that is ordered or agreed upon in advance, often for money or for ideological reasons. But I am not a lawyer, linguist or English.
Like I said Patrice is one as M orders him to terminate him for Robson. M also indirectly allows bond to pursue scarramanga
Dent is an assassination within Bonds remit of having a licence to kill, and I suppose vespers boyfriend was an expected assassination, but Bond allowed him live, M was there and was surprised bond didn't kill him. There others in a grey area such as Jacques Bouvar? Why else was Bond there? And possibly Blofeld in the DAF pts?
The word comes from Hassassin who were Persian agents of a religious sect.
An assassin is someone who kills for personal gain either monetary or ideals or or by order or agreement from a third party. A husband can't assassinate his wife for cheating, but could hire an assassin to do it. Well that's my take on it.
There are a few definition. Many claim it's a planned murder of a famous or important person, often in secret. I'm not sure.... do you agree?
The Law Dictionary says something like: a planned murder for money or ideological reasons.
My idea of an assassination was a planned killing that is ordered or agreed upon in advance, often for money or for ideological reasons. But I am not a lawyer, linguist or English.
Thoughts?
I was always under the impression that it was a planned killing of a leader or politician.
Yeah, well, sometimes nothin' can be a real cool hand.
Perhaps if part of your job description is " Assassin" you'd have to keep your hand in, and use
Your initiative, and take care of business where and when you can ?
"I've been informed that there ARE a couple of QAnon supporters who are fairly regular posters in AJB."
Perhaps if part of your job description is " Assassin" you'd have to keep your hand in, and use
Your initiative, and take care of business where and when you can ?
A bit like a gynecologist? They keep there hand in.
If killing Dent was an assassination because of Bond's license to kill, then every person he kills is an assassination. That can be argued, but I don't think so. I agree on Patrice and there are more like Bouvier that can be made a good case for.
I don't think a target of an assassination must be famous or powerful. The only cases of assassinations I know of in modern Norway was in WWII. The leaders of the resistance sometimes ordered assassinations of Gestapo men, informers working for them and traitors who infiltrated resistance groups to informasjon the Gestapo. Hardly any of them were well known people.
The history of the Assassins section is very interesting, I read a book on them a couple of years ago.
I think Chriscoop's definition is pretty good, but the "kills for personal gain" part must be made clearer. If someone kills you for your wallet he's no assassin and Bond had no gain from killing the station chief in CR. FRWL
If killing Dent was an assassination because of Bond's license to kill, then every person he kills is an assassination. That can be argued, but I don't think so. I agree on Patrice and there are more like Bouvier that can be made a good case for.
I don't think a target of an assassination must be famous or powerful. The only cases of assassinations I know of in modern Norway was in WWII. The leaders of the resistance sometimes ordered assassinations of Gestapo men, informers working for them and traitors who infiltrated resistance groups to informasjon the Gestapo. Hardly any of them were well known people.
The history of the Assassins section is very interesting, I read a book on them a couple of years ago.
I think Chriscoop's definition is pretty good, but the "kills for personal gain" part must be made clearer. If someone kills you for your wallet he's no assassin and Bond had no gain from killing the station chief in CR. FRWL
Well you could argue bond gained 00 status from his two cr pts kills ( it takes 2) and he is paid via his salary. A lot of Bond's kills are incidental and due to circumstance, like the team in tswlm pts who were there to kill Bond. we must also look at the differing times these films take place, in Dr No Bond was tasked to discover what happened to Strangways, his licence to kill purely legitimises dents assassination and therefore on behalf of the British government.
By personal gain I mean being paid or professional advancement.
Interestingly if an assassin was prosecuted for a killing, they would be charged for first degree murder.
I used to have an Ovation- after 27 years I gave it to Son of Barbel since I was spending more guitar time with my Fenders ("Ten fingers on that Fender, boy!") when I wasn't playing bass. They're good guitars.
I love it, I think it was a balladeer and it was made in the USA before they moved production to Korea. I also had a very old gut strung Martin, and a couple of strats and a Gibson les Paul in antique burst....those days are gone now
I know Barbra is not everyones cup of tea but bit cruel that people laugh at her dog died , age 14.....those that have had pets know the feeling when it dies
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Takes a pride in doing it well. Also with the Craig films, especially after the stairwell kill in CR. They do show
Bond having to settle himself afterwards, showing that Bond is human and not some programmed killing machine.
There's also the scene in TWINE, where Bond tells Renard that "killing in cold blood was always a nasty business " ?
Although I do enjoy the Times Bond gets a little pay back. As in LTK " You earned it, You keep it !" , and in OP.
Bond pinned to a door by throwing knives ( at the time, I couldn't figure out how he'd get himself outta this one )
but manages to turn the tables " and this is for 009! "
Obviously Prof Dent in Dr No, then not much ?
OP, Octopussy calls Bond a paid assassin.
TLD, Bond begins the story as a sniper, expected to kill. Then later sent out deliberately to kill.
TWINE, we're told an agent managed to put a bullet in him ( Renard) which I guess was an
Assassination mission. I'm sure there are others but they don't come to mind yet.
and in the beginning had nothing to do with killing ! ...... Not ally of people know that
The Law Dictionary says something like: a planned murder for money or ideological reasons.
My idea of an assassination was a planned killing that is ordered or agreed upon in advance, often for money or for ideological reasons. But I am not a lawyer, linguist or English.
Thoughts?
Dent is an assassination within Bonds remit of having a licence to kill, and I suppose vespers boyfriend was an expected assassination, but Bond allowed him live, M was there and was surprised bond didn't kill him. There others in a grey area such as Jacques Bouvar? Why else was Bond there? And possibly Blofeld in the DAF pts?
The word comes from Hassassin who were Persian agents of a religious sect.
An assassin is someone who kills for personal gain either monetary or ideals or or by order or agreement from a third party. A husband can't assassinate his wife for cheating, but could hire an assassin to do it. Well that's my take on it.
I was always under the impression that it was a planned killing of a leader or politician.
Your initiative, and take care of business where and when you can ?
A bit like a gynecologist? They keep there hand in.
I don't think a target of an assassination must be famous or powerful. The only cases of assassinations I know of in modern Norway was in WWII. The leaders of the resistance sometimes ordered assassinations of Gestapo men, informers working for them and traitors who infiltrated resistance groups to informasjon the Gestapo. Hardly any of them were well known people.
The history of the Assassins section is very interesting, I read a book on them a couple of years ago.
I think Chriscoop's definition is pretty good, but the "kills for personal gain" part must be made clearer. If someone kills you for your wallet he's no assassin and Bond had no gain from killing the station chief in CR. FRWL
By personal gain I mean being paid or professional advancement.
Interestingly if an assassin was prosecuted for a killing, they would be charged for first degree murder.
Well I've struggled to find any pictures of a child Chriscoop, my parents will have them I guess,
But a couple from 20 odd years ago
Training, wearing pt issue shorts. ( just noticed the colour of my face mask, how thunderball)
Chilling out
With my friend Spyros
Im about 20 - 21 years old in these photos