Lulu Vs. Alice Cooper

The Cat · March 2004

I know a lot of you hate Lulu's The Man With The Golden Gun, and I admit it's not amongst the great ones. I wonder what you think about this song, which can be downloaded from

http://wwww.geocities.com/bsarlald/sgoldcooper.mp3
(It's very small sized!)

This is Alice Cooper's version of the song; he would have liked to sing the title theme of a Bond film and gave it a shot in the wake of Paul McCartney's LALD. However, the song wasn't accepted.

Do you think it would be better insted of Lulu's song?

Sir Miles · March 2004

You link doesn't work I'm afraid Cat, could you try again ?

The Cat · March 2004

Sorry, I misse out a g.

The correct link is:

http://wwww.geocities.com/bsarlald/sgoldgcooper.mp3

Hardyboy · March 2004

I can't link to the new one, Cat. Anyway, I have heard Alice's song, and, as a fan of my fellow Arizonan (who's also a terrifically nice guy who gives a lot of money to Phoenix charities), I have to say I would have loved if his song had been used. Then again, the Bay City Rollers might have been an improvement over Lulu's shrieking roller disco song.

Sir Miles · March 2004

Quoting Hardyboy:
I can't link to the new one, Cat. Anyway, I have heard Alice's song,

Me neither, and I haven't heard the song - could you please try again ?

The Cat · March 2004

Oh! I'm such an idiot cat. Theer are only three w-s. Let's try this for the final time.

http://www.geocities.com/bsarlald/sgoldgcooper.mp3

That should be correct.

Sir Miles · March 2004

Cheers Cat - that last one worked. A good track and quite different from Lulu's, it would have been good to see what the titles would have looked like over that.

Hardyboy · March 2004

Quoting Sir Miles:
A good track and quite different from Lulu's, it would have been good to see what the titles would have looked like over that.

Ah, yes, what coulda been. Alice's song has a "shimmering" quality about it, so I could see the titles being made up of rotating mirrors (a la the funhouse), with glances of Bond and some golden-gun-clutching beauties stalking each other reflected in them. Hmmm. . .already it sounds better than the water-and-Asian-babes motif used in the film!

Alex · March 2004

Quoting Hardyboy:
Ah, yes, what coulda been. Alice's song has a "shimmering" quality about it, so I could see the titles being made up of rotating mirrors (a la the funhouse), with glances of Bond and some golden-gun-clutching beauties stalking each other reflected in them. Hmmm. . .already it sounds better than the water-and-Asian-babes motif used in the film!

I have to say your title sequence sounds great!

And as another fan of the Coopman, yeah it really would have been something if he had sang TMWTGG.

Dr Shatterhand · March 2004

Personally I don't like either version. But I would be interested in hearing the original version that John Barry wrote which was slower in temple. Maurice Binder complained about this often during the mid 70s and early 80s because he would be in the middle of creating his nude credit montages and Barry would be asked to rewrite the score.

Barry eventually would write approximately 6 different songs and let the studio heads decide.

delon64 · March 2004

to be fair to barry and the tmwtgg score it was written very quickly in a matter of weeks and lacks his other works polish but is still an adequate piece of work imo...on a similar note has anyone heard blondies for your your eyes only theme song...it is available in the uk at least on the cheap best of cd...that i think was exclusive to virgin megastores...its a good eighties style tune and would have worked well

Stromberg1 · March 2004

I know someone related to Alice Cooper.

yodboy007 · March 2004

Mrs. Gloria Henderson I presume?

The Cat · March 2004

As the starter of the forum I'll add my comments as well!

The Cooper song is great and could have substituted the Lulu song (and I'm using this term loosely). But I couldn't imagine the song to appear in any kind of score! Honestly, I like the TMWTGG theme, but not in the performance of Lulu, but in the orchestral incarnations.

JD_West · April 2004

I actually have many of Alice Coopers CD's including the "Muscle of Love" album which has that song. It's a good song
but is doesn't have *nearly* the octane of Lulu's version with John Barry's horn section blasting in high gear. Sure it's a tad hockey in a sense, but that movie *is hockey* so it's a suitable match in my opinion. Lulu's voice just cuts through that tune like a knife. And also, there's nothing disco about that tune by any stretch of the imagination. I especially like the horn section blasting away at the end
Da, Da, Da, Da, Da, Da, Da Da Da Da Da

So there......... James Bond 007........................Jim
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Firemass · April 2004

I'm also an Alice Cooper fan, and while i really dig that song, it just doesn't have that Bond feel to it. So I'm glad they went with Lulu.

and having two rock songs in a row might have been weird.

Mr Twilight · April 2004

Has anyone heard the version with Alice Cooper and Liza Minelli? I read about it somewhere...

JD_West · April 2004

Find "Muscle of Love" by Alice Cooper and you
will get that tune. It's called "Teenage Lament 74". It's also on the greatest hits CD where they are dressed in 40's attire. Alice is sooooo Hollywood.

....................Jim
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Dr Shatterhand · April 2004

Lulu said she had a sore throat when she recorded TMWTGG song. Perhaps that is why she sounds so strained.

goldfinger · July 2004

I heard on a documentary, that the titles were sped up because there was a change in the theme. So maybe it was supposed to be the theme and was changed during the process.

royalmile · July 2004

I still can't get the link to hear Alice's version....

The Cat · August 2004

This is the correct link.

http://www.geocities.com/bsarlald/sgoldgcooper.mp3

Agent Wade · July 2006

I hate that song. Blah. I can't believe I'm saying this, but I like the Lulu song better.

0064 · July 2006

Wow, thanks for the link cat....i happen to like this theme much more than the one tha LuLu did, this is a great improvement...

jetsetwilly · July 2006

Lulu vs Alice Cooper - now there's a wrestling match I'd love to see. My money's on the Scot.

I'd go with Lulu, every time. Alice's version doesn't have its bombast, its complete OTTness; though I never thought I'd say this about an Alice Cooper track, it's too laid back...

steelydan3 · July 2006

jetsetwilly wrote:

Lulu vs Alice Cooper - now there's a wrestling match I'd love to see. My money's on the Scot.

I'd go with Lulu, every time. Alice's version doesn't have its bombast, its complete OTTness; though I never thought I'd say this about an Alice Cooper track, it's too laid back...

Yeah, I totally agree with you jetset, it's a bit restrained by the great man. I expect to be a bit more, er, rocking?

However, I don't mind it, it's good. Have to give it another listen when I get the chance. Not as good as the tracks we know Mr Cooper for!

Hunter Harry · July 2006

Lulu's version is much better.

Pierce_Brosnan · July 2006

Lulu's is very much better! Cooper's does not sound bondian (or for that matter, LISTENABLE!)

arthur pringle · August 2006

I'm sure that isn't the best example of Alice Cooper but it sounds like a bit of a racket to me. I'm glad they hired Lulu.

JennyFlexFan · August 2006

This song is way better than Lulu's piece of tripe (though the orchestral version of it is very pretty to listen to). This admittedly would be hard to score though, only a few bits would work.

Dan Same · August 2006

I may be in a minority here but I love Lulu's rendition of TMWTGG. It's one of my four favourite Bond theme songs (the others being GF, LALD and Nobody Does it better.) I also don't particularly love Cooper's rendition (or his music in general) so I am certainly relieved that the producers stuck with Lulu.

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