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  • Dirty PunkerDirty Punker ...Your Eyes Only, darling."Posts: 2,587MI6 Agent
    chrisisall wrote:
    There's no denying that Zimmer tried to homage the soundtrack while giving it his own twist but in the end, which parts of Zimmer's score do you remember?
    Well, I only saw it once... I couldn't even remember the Jedi theme from Star Wars after only one viewing... :))
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  • 007Downunder007Downunder Hobart, Australia Posts: 374MI6 Agent
    Just watched Tinker Tailor Soldier Spy brilliant evocative . As a kid had watched Alec Guinness as Smiley I didn't think anyone else could nail it but Oldman did. A real who's who of English actors.
    I loved Le Carre's Circus novels but didn't like the others . I'm reading Legacy of Spies which is set in in current times. It is in context of a lawsuit in respect of the circumstances of the spy who cam in from the cold. The book so good I decided to watch the film.
    Both fantastic.
    Anthony
  • ChriscoopChriscoop Belize Posts: 10,458MI6 Agent
    Tinker tailor is a brilliant film, and gets better with further viewings.
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  • 007Downunder007Downunder Hobart, Australia Posts: 374MI6 Agent
    Chriscoop wrote:
    Tinker tailor is a brilliant film, and gets better with further viewings.
    Yeah I thought it was one that could be viewed again . If we had a dollar for every quote that Le carre the " real spy world" not Bond
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  • ChriscoopChriscoop Belize Posts: 10,458MI6 Agent
    As much as I got the story in first viewing ( I've read the book previously) I saw it in the cinema and subsequent viewings threw up little bits which I'd previously not digested properly. I also thought they did a cracking job with placing the film in its era.
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  • walther p99walther p99 NJPosts: 3,416MI6 Agent
    chrisisall wrote:
    Number24 wrote:
    I think Zimmer succeded with the music. Just like the movie as a whole a sequel of a classic movie must echo the original, but not copy it. Zimmer had kept some elements and created some new, such as the Tibetan chanting. I liked it a lot.
    Same here. Like the film as a whole, it shouldn't have worked, but it did.
    There's no denying that Zimmer tried to homage the soundtrack while giving it his own twist but in the end, which parts of Zimmer's score do you remember?
    I think that's an important question as in most of the movies he works on, the music fits in and does not attract attention to itself, thus appearing more like filler than anything else. For me, movie music should add to the atmosphere and the magic of the movie-going experience. It should indulge you into living inside the movie for its runtime.
    Imagine having, in this forum's case, Zimmer scoring Moonraker's lure into the pyramid scenes. It just wouldn't of had the impact it did on-screen.

    For me, the part of the score that I did enjoy was, coincidentally, his rehash of Tears in Rain from the original Vangelis-scored Blade Runner, which of course was excellent but lacked the soul and feel of the original. It felt like something was missing in the tune.
    I don't know why they had to drop Johann Johannsson from the score because the vast majority of Blade Runner 2049's music sounded exactly like Johannsson. As in very dark, ambient and atmospheric. Villeneuve said that he was replaced by Wallfisch/Zimmer because he wanted the score to sound more like Vangelis. But in the film there are just hints of Vangelis throughout the score and I don't think Johannsson would have had a problem doing that. This is more a Benjamin Wallfisch score then a Hans Zimmer one. Most of the year Zimmer was too busy on his music tour so most of the scoring duty went to Wallfisch. Speaking of Zimmer though I like how in a interview for this score Zimmer said he wanted it to sound "nothing like Dunkirk" yet parts of it are very reminiscent in texture to Dunkirk.
  • Number24Number24 NorwayPosts: 22,349MI6 Agent
    The Snowman

    I saw this movie last night, something I saw as a patriotic duty :D
    The main question first: is it as bad as the critics say? I don't think so. It's far from as good as it should have been given the source material and the talent involved in making the movie. Most critics give The Snowman two out of six points. I would give it three or four. The main problems are storytelling, suspence and editing. Some plot lines seem to go now here and others are badly told. Last night there were no trailers before the movie was screen ed. Instead there was a photo of a snowman and the voice of a well-known actor reading a scene from the book. This was probably paid for by the editor. This reading highlighted the problems of the movie. The scene wasn't in the movie, in spite of being one of the more memorable. Secondly, the movie struggled with creating the creepy suspense that was created just with a photo, the text and the voice of a talented actor.

    I have no problems with the acting and casting. The Norwegian tourist board must be happy, because the director has cherry-picked locations and they were shot well. In retrospect the movie should have been Norwegian. One of our best directors, given a the budget of our most expensive movies and our best people behind and in front of the camera, could have made a much better movie.
  • welshboy78welshboy78 Posts: 10,320MI6 Agent
    Thanks for the review glad to hear its not a total turkey!!
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    Turkey, snowman ? ...... " Was that a Christmas joke ?" :D
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  • welshboy78welshboy78 Posts: 10,320MI6 Agent
    Indeed!!!!





    Nah not really :)
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  • ThunderpussyThunderpussy Behind you !Posts: 63,792MI6 Agent
    I think the main problem was the change of tone with the film. The first snowman was
    a lovely animated adventure with a snowman who can fly. ;)
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  • Number24Number24 NorwayPosts: 22,349MI6 Agent
    Not a total turkey IMO, but a wasted oportunity. I wonder what directors such as Roar Uthaug (The Wave, Tomb Raider), Andre Øverdal (Troll Hunter, The autopsy of Jane Doe) or Erik Skjolbjærg (Insomnia, Occupied) could have made. They probably aren't up to something on the level of Tailor, Tinker, Soldier, Spy. But they could probably make a better movie of The Snowman.
  • ChriscoopChriscoop Belize Posts: 10,458MI6 Agent
    Number24 wrote:
    Not a total turkey IMO, but a wasted oportunity. I wonder what directors such as Roar Uthaug (The Wave, Tomb Raider), Andre Øverdal (Troll Hunter, The autopsy of Jane Doe) or Erik Skjolbjærg (Insomnia, Occupied) could have made. They probably aren't up to something on the level of Tailor, Tinker, Soldier, Spy. But they could probably make a better movie of The Snowman.
    You're just biased and picking on alfredson because he's Swedish! :D
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  • ChriscoopChriscoop Belize Posts: 10,458MI6 Agent
    I think the main problem was the change of tone with the film. The first snowman was
    a lovely animated adventure with a snowman who can fly. ;)
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    Yes who abducts a small child, takes him to meet a fat man dressed in red who breaks into people's houses every year and ultimately melts to death. Film noir if ever I saw one
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  • Number24Number24 NorwayPosts: 22,349MI6 Agent
    Chriscoop wrote:
    Number24 wrote:
    Not a total turkey IMO, but a wasted oportunity. I wonder what directors such as Roar Uthaug (The Wave, Tomb Raider), Andre Øverdal (Troll Hunter, The autopsy of Jane Doe) or Erik Skjolbjærg (Insomnia, Occupied) could have made. They probably aren't up to something on the level of Tailor, Tinker, Soldier, Spy. But they could probably make a better movie of The Snowman.
    You're just biased and picking on alfredson because he's Swedish! :D


    I don't think so. I know you're not entirely serious, but: "Let the right one in" and "Tailor, Tinker, Soldier, spy" are first rate thrillers and I was happy to hear that Alfredson was given the job to direct. Sadly he squandered the chance and a number of home-grown directors would have done a better job.
  • Matt SMatt S Oh Cult Voodoo ShopPosts: 6,610MI6 Agent
    I just saw The Foreigner. Unlike with his Bond work, I was very impressed with Martin Campbell. I'm not so against him returning to Bond now, since I now see he can make a more mature film. I was also impressed with Jackie Chan's and Pierce Brosnan's acting, and Brosnan did a great job at playing such a complex character.

    Now, did Pierce Brosnan do a proper Northern Irish accent? I've known a few people from Northern Ireland, and they spoke more like Liam Neeson but with a thicker accent. Brosnan sounded nothing that them to me. It was so odd to hear Brosnan speaking with such an accent, and I really wasn't believable to me, but perhaps only because it wasn't what I expect from Brosnan. For a few decades he's spoken with a combination of an Irish, London and American accents. I wish he spoke with his ordinary accent, like Connery in The Hunt for Red October.
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  • chrisisallchrisisall Western Mass, USAPosts: 9,062MI6 Agent
    Matt S wrote:
    I just saw The Foreigner. Unlike with his Bond work, I was very impressed with Martin Campbell. I'm not so against him returning to Bond now, since I now see he can make a more mature film. I was also impressed with Jackie Chan's and Pierce Brosnan's acting, and Brosnan did a great job at playing such a complex character.
    I just saw it & I agree. Very serious & tight little thriller/character study. {[]
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  • chrisisallchrisisall Western Mass, USAPosts: 9,062MI6 Agent
    The new Blu Ray of Superman: The Movie Extended Cut ( all 3 hrs 8 min of it).... OMFG THIS is why no superhero film will EVER be as good. Ever. If you're a fan this is a must-buy.
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  • Napoleon PluralNapoleon Plural LondonPosts: 10,468MI6 Agent
    Well, we all know Superman: The Movie is great, but how is the extended cut better? I know at the cinema the bit where he is subject to an assault course by Lex Luthar was cut out.. it's since been reinserted whenever I see it on telly. Also, more footage of Brando in the Fortress of Solitude, rebuking him for showing off on his first outing. Shame it was missed out, as I grew up thinking that this kind of showboating was the very thing. That says, it does rather spoil the mood and momentum.
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  • caractacus pottscaractacus potts Orbital communicator, level 10Posts: 4,114MI6 Agent
    certainly better than any recent Superman film, or actually any recent DC comics film for that matter
    strange how its the Marvel films that retain the humour and optimism, and DC have chosen to make their films dark and depressing

    last time I watched it what struck me was how blatantly sexual is the interview sequence at Lois' apartment
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4KTwdr5aTT4
    Reeve is playing it like such a naive boyscout yet he is clearly aware he's getting her all hot'n'bothered

    I like how its actually divided into three or four discrete sections, each with its own style: science fiction, similar to STAR WARS; Americana nostalgia; then big city newspaper screwball comedy, which finally turns into the conflict with Luthor ... very epic

    I was also thinking about how he finally appears in costume halfway through the film, what an iconic monumental moment that is ... you know in Casino Royale when CraigBond puts on the tux and looks in the mirror and the hints of the Bond theme first appear in the soundtrack? that's sort of the same thing: the tux is Bond's superhero uniform, we've been waiting for half the film to see him put on and when he does it is a Very Important Moment

    ever see the Max Fleischer Superman cartoons from the early 1940s?
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sjdnCC6n4xk
  • chrisisallchrisisall Western Mass, USAPosts: 9,062MI6 Agent
    Well, we all know Superman: The Movie is great, but how is the extended cut better?
    Well, it's not better... though I certainly like this version THE BEST!
    Mainly, they used some great music cues that never made it to the final cut(s) as well as different angles and expanded moments... plus of course the attempted missile catch that never even made it to deleted scenes in any other presentation, and the hilarious "feed the babies" bit...
    It just feels kinda like a mini-series at 3hrs & 8 minutes... just very epic in scope. I'll probably get a second copy in case I wear this one out. :))
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  • ThunderpussyThunderpussy Behind you !Posts: 63,792MI6 Agent
    Geostorm. I do love a big disaster movie, some great special effects but a rather silly plot. If you
    Wait to see it on bluray or download, you won't be missing anything.
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  • MilleniumForceMilleniumForce LondonPosts: 1,214MI6 Agent
    I also watched the new extended cut of Superman. As said, it's not better in any way, I like it just as much as the version that was already available. There aren't any drastically altering scenes, a lot of he reinstated stuff is just extensions of scenes already in the cut. Still nice to see any extended version of a film though, even if it's not a better or worse version.
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  • chrisisallchrisisall Western Mass, USAPosts: 9,062MI6 Agent
    I also watched the new extended cut of Superman. As said, it's not better in any way, I like it just as much as the version that was already available. There aren't any drastically altering scenes, a lot of he reinstated stuff is just extensions of scenes already in the cut. Still nice to see any extended version of a film though, even if it's not a better or worse version.
    Fair thumbnail there.
    But to people like me, for whom Superman: The Movie is one of the top 5 movies ever made, for whom viewing it is a near-religious experience, this extended cut is like the cinematic Holy Grail! :))
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  • Dirty PunkerDirty Punker ...Your Eyes Only, darling."Posts: 2,587MI6 Agent
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    Heat.

    Need I say more?

    Love what a goofball Pacino makes of himself during most of his interactions with other characters and it made me feel sad that Val Kilmer didn't get a bigger career.
    I mean, he's no Saint but he was a damn fine actor. Maybe it's because he doesn't have a....GREAT ASS.
    And another thing, if anyone wants to be in crime, please, don't rough up the staff. They are just doing their job.

    Also rewatched the original Italian Job and I still don't find what all of you find appealing in it.
    Maybe it's because I'm not British.
    Maybe it's because I sometimes find your humour slightly difficult to follow.
    Maybe it's because I don't enjoy watching now priceless cars getting wrecked (and no, let's not fall into that rabbit hole).
    Maybe it's because I don't find the peacock revolution and the peace and shag movement appealing with all the shagging around Charlie does in the movie first minutes of the movie.


    Pick either one.
    For me, the only redeeming factor for me is the Mini porn and "Everybody in the world is bent"......and Caine's Hayward suits, naturally.
    For all its bravado amongst film people, I found it to be quite disappointing.
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  • ThunderpussyThunderpussy Behind you !Posts: 63,792MI6 Agent
    No One Lives :
    Caught this last night on Film4, a pretty good Horror/ slasher type but with a twist. I does
    drop off a bit story wise near the end but good fun for a Halloween weekend.
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  • ThunderpussyThunderpussy Behind you !Posts: 63,792MI6 Agent
    The Void, another good Horror flick. although a fairly new film, it has the feel of the 80s about it.
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  • caractacus pottscaractacus potts Orbital communicator, level 10Posts: 4,114MI6 Agent
    Also rewatched the original Italian Job and I still don't find what all of you find appealing in it.
    well you do get to make up your own ending
    that sort of makes it more democratic, very nice of the filmmakers to let the viewers have a say in the story
  • Dirty PunkerDirty Punker ...Your Eyes Only, darling."Posts: 2,587MI6 Agent
    Also rewatched the original Italian Job and I still don't find what all of you find appealing in it.
    well you do get to make up your own ending
    that sort of makes it more democratic, very nice of the filmmakers to let the viewers have a say in the story
    Setup for a sequel that never happened but I guess they survived.

    Anyway, want to see the Foreigner and probably will this.Friday.
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  • BarbelBarbel ScotlandPosts: 37,880Chief of Staff
    The Rutles- All You Need Is Cash

    Perhaps best described as The Beatles meet Monty Python and Saturday Night Live, this parody of the story of The Beatles is funny even if you don't know the facts, and even funnier if you do. Featuring Eric Idle & Michael Palin (from Python), Bill Murray, Dan Aykroyd, Gilda Radner (from SNL), Paul Simon, Mick & Bianca Jagger, Rikki Fataar (Beach Boys), and even George Harrison himself.

    But most of all, starring Neil Innes who wrote all the songs in perfect pastiche of Lennon/McCartney and does most of the singing (great Lennon impression). A couple of the songs:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=54KBPA20b9Q
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iVFRgoQe86U
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=amiBTezWKqQ
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