I've just seen the new movie and it's great, a nice reboot for a much loved series.{[]
I've always watched star trek in its many forms and after many disapointments like Indy four my hopes were not high, But it's a hoot, well worth watching.
Thanks for the mini-review TP; glad to hear that as a longtime fan you enjoyed it. I hope to see it myself next Friday. {[]
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edited May 2009
That is good news...the boys and I are very excited about this one. It's very encouraging that Trek has a fighting chance of being big---outside its devoted cult following---again B-)
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After watching the trailers, it looks and sounds fresh, exciting and epic. I could be wrong, but gathering what I've seen, should be a blast. I wonder if they plan on doing more stories with this cast.
Uhura's bra shot was exciting, but she doesn't sound like a very good actress, sorrry. I still loathe the kid Kirk at the beginning, but young Spock's "I will not let you lecture me" and especially Nimoy's "Live long and prosper" gave me chills.
Bring it on. I'll probably do a saturday afternoon viewing. If Tony'll let me ride shotgun. Or is that Spec's seat?
If anything I can ride with Loeff and the boys. Wonder if I could qualify for kid discount?
Everybody is signed on for 3 movies and Paramount has already hired Orci & Kurtzman to start working on a story for a sequel. Obviously, if the movie tanks those plans go out the window, but if it has a solid opening weekend look for them to quickly ramp up work on another installment for Summer 2011. To date, Star Trek has outpaced Wolverine in terms of advance ticket sales; if it can approach that movie's initial opening gross, a sequel will be that much more likely. It'll also be interesting to see how this movie fares overseas, where Trek has never been much of a film franchise. The filmmakers have promoted it heavily and even sent the cast on a world tour.
Most reviews say Uhura is actually one of the stronger characters in the movie and Abrams apparently cut some of the childhood era Kirk scenes, so hopefully we won't be cringing in our seats too much (though sadly, the carjacking scene is still in there).
Spec and I are tentatively planning to see it on Friday (though it officialy opens with 7:00pm screenings Thursday night); you're welcome to join us Alex, just don't wear a red shirt.
Maybe RogueAgent can join in as well; I have a feeling it will take at least the three of us to restrain him if he doesn't like what he sees. )
The movie conitnues to get very positive reviews; the normally stodgy Ty Burr of the Boston Globe gave it four stars and it still has a 100% rating at Rotten tomatoes. If anything, all the positive word of mouth has me a little worried; Superman Returns was similarly praised by the critics but the finished product didn't hold up for longtime fans. Hopefully, Trek won't fall into that trap.
I just want to know if that was an Orion woman in Kirk's bed.
Yes, it was. One of the movie's many nods to past Trek. The character's name is Gaila and I've heard that the picture floating around on the web doesn't do her justice.
Everybody is signed on for 3 movies and Paramount has already hired Orci & Kurtzman to start working on a story for a sequel. Obviously, if the movie tanks those plans go out the window, but if it has a solid opening weekend look for them to quickly ramp up work on another installment for Summer 2011. To date, Star Trek has outpaced Wolverine in terms of advance ticket sales; if it can approach that movie's initial opening gross, a sequel will be that much more likely. It'll also be interesting to see how this movie fares overseas, where Trek has never been much of a film franchise. The filmmakers have promoted it heavily and even sent the cast on a world tour.
Most reviews say Uhura is actually one of the stronger characters in the movie and Abrams apparently cut some of the childhood era Kirk scenes, so hopefully we won't be cringing in our seats too much (though sadly, the carjacking scene is still in there).
Spec and I are tentatively planning to see it on Friday (though it officialy opens with 7:00pm screenings Thursday night); you're welcome to join us Alex, just don't wear a red shirt.
Maybe RogueAgent can join in as well; I have a feeling it will take at least the three of us to restrain him if he doesn't like what he sees. )
The movie conitnues to get very positive reviews; the normally stodgy Ty Burr of the Boston Globe gave it four stars and it still has a 100% rating at Rotten tomatoes. If anything, all the positive word of mouth has me a little worried; Superman Returns was similarly praised by the critics but the finished product didn't hold up for longtime fans. Hopefully, Trek won't fall into that trap.
A new Trek movie franchise? I'm there!
Even though I don't care for Chris Pine. JUST...CAN'T...HELP...MYSELF. I don't know the lesser evil - a frat boy Kirk, or a laundry folding, starship surrendering Picard.
But I'll miss the old-school film-making, (miniatures, stunts, squibs, terrific makeup and face appliances). But give me scenery chewing villains and a wagon train and I'll be happy.
And you know how emotional Rogue gets. His case might require the Dagger of the Mind.
And you know how emotional Rogue gets. His case might require the Dagger of the Mind.
Rogue, look into the neural neuralizer. You want to see the new movie. You need to see the new movie. You love the new movie.
Or a quick visit with Landru might be just as effective... :v
"You will be absorbed...your individuality will merge into the unity of good"
) ) ) ) )
"But I already am of the body!"...just the original one, my friend.
I swear as each remake and reboot of a popular series comes out Nostalgia sets in for me more and more. B-)
Next, they'll have some kid actor with milk still on his breath and three hairs on his chest trying to portray Commander Koenig in a big production Space: 2099.
Mrs. Man Face: "You wouldn't hit a lady? Would you?"
Batman: "The Hammer Of Justice isUNISEX!"
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Rogue, luckily, Space 1999 flew way under the radar when it premiered in the States so I don't think anyone will mess with it and remake it. That's great news for us as it will always be one of the coolest series ever made. I never get tired of it. {[]
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If anything I can ride with Loeff and the boys. Wonder if I could qualify for kid discount?
Absolutely; just slouch down a bit. I'll tell the lady at the box office that you've got a glandular disorder ;%
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I'm eight hours from the opening night viewing of Star Trek---pizza and beer beforehand, as is our custom---along with a friend from work, and Loeff Jr and Loeff III.
Two opening nights in two weeks. I love Summer blockbuster season B-)
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I'll be seeing Sar Trek within the next week. I can't wait.
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i saw it at 12:01am, IMAX.
WOW!
epic
action-packed
incredible space battles
fantastic visual effects and great sound design
but, most importantly, i was impressed with the acting performances. Pine is a great Kirk and Quinto is Spock! Greenwood, Soldana, Nimoy and Urban were also excellent.
all the little nods to TOS were fun:
especially the Kobayashi Maru {[]
it is a very entertaining movie. i'm going to see it again and i'm glad they are working on a sequel. i'll be seeing that, too!
Live Long and Prosper, Star Trek!
p.s. for those with Star Trek "angst" - there's very little "kid Kirk" in the movie
oh, and Robau is a bada$$!
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Sounds great, clum! Thanks for your review -{
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I saw the new movie with my brother this morning; in short we both enjoyed it tremendously. We were both somewhat apprehensive going into this one as much has been made about new actors assuming these iconic roles and how the story essentially reboots Star Trek. It also didn't help that some of the clips didn't exactly paint the new cast in the best light. Luckily, when viewed within the context of the film, almost everything works beautifully.
The movie tells the story of a Romulan called Nero who travels thru time intent on destroying the Federation. The reasons for his rage are quite personal and in trying to accomplish his goals, he changes the course of history, thus giving us a somewhat different view of the Trek universe. This frees the filmmakers to use the characters from the original show yet tell an original tale of how they came together to confront this threat.
The actors are all very solid. I was not sold on Chris Pine as Kirk as the clips often made him out to be a James Dean type rebel without a cause. Happily, those clips don't do his performance justice. He does a great job of making the character his own while also subtly channeling some of William Shatner's mannerisms without ever falling into parody.
Zachary Quinto as Spock is likewise very good; deftly walking the tightrope of balancing this younger Spock's Human and Vulcan halves. His scenes with other members of his family are particularly effective, as are those with Jacob Kogan, the actor who plays young Spock. They evoke a strong memory of DC Fontana's writing from the original show and the animated series.
Karl Urban as Dr. McCoy literally channels the late DeForest Kelley with a performance that is both endearing and funny without ever becoming caricature. He captures McCoy's irascibility wonderfully and works many of McCoy's famous one-liners into the story.
The chemistry between these three main characters is one of the keys to a successful Trek movie and its clear that these actors are on the same wavelength. There are some great scenes between them and its a treat to see the beginnings of their respective relationships with one another.
Leonard Nimoy plays the older Spock in a substantial role that is integral to the movie. He inhabits his character effortlessly providing guidance and wisdom and helping to move the story along. Its great to see him back as Spock and he doesn't disappoint.
Also very solid is Bruce Greenwood as Captain Pike, who plays the role as Kirk's mentor and father figure. Unlike so many other Starfleet captains who are borderline incompetent, Pike is every bit as qualified as Kirk and shows great strength and leadership.
The rest of the cast is solid though they don't have quite as much to offer as the main three. Simon Pegg's Scotty is used largely for comic relief while Zoe Saldana, Anton Yelchin and John Cho (Uhura, Chekov and Sulu) each are given moments to contribute to the story. Eric Bana's villainous Nero is somewhat disappointing as he doesn't have a lot of screen time. He is very much an agent of chaos, showing up and causing mayhem, but his limited screen time means we never really come know him. Ben Cross also gives a good performance Spock's father Sarek, playing him as a more compassionate Vulcan (understandable given some of the things that happen in the film). Chris Hemsworth has a small but very important and memorable role as George Kirk. Taran Fahir as Captain Robau and Wynona Ryder as Amanda, Spock's mother, both make the most of their very small roles.
Visually, the film looks great with some amazing special effects. The ships really look massive and there is great weight and mass to them. The sets and props are all recognizable while also being updated for modern audiences; the one exception being the engineering section. It looks like a boiler room or brewery (and in fact, that is exactly where those scenes were shot). One of the few real missteps in the movie.
The story goes thru some hoops to bring all these characters together and get Kirk in the captain's chair so quickly. Also, the rest of the Federation and Starfleet is largely absent (an all too common occurrence in the shows and movies) forcing our heroes to confront the threat on their own. Still, the great interactions among the main characters overcome any weaknesses of plot.
Longtime fans who cannot get past other actors taking on these roles will probably have a hard time embracing this movie. Likewise, the canon-freaks who cannot stand any changes to Trek's established timeline will also find much to complain about. This story takes place in a different universe and some events and even relationships between certain characters are different that what fans may be used to or remember. If you can't get by that then your ability to have a good time will be compromised.
As for myself and my brother, we had a great time. We quickly came to like and care for these characters and look forward to more adventures with this new cast and eventually buying this movie on BluRay.
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edited May 2009
Okay.
First of all, I think it's very important to tip the hat to JJ Abrams and his entire creative team for stepping up to the plate and taking a home-run swing at this most daunting of challenges...and I'll admit to feeling a certain vicarious thrill on their behalf, much as I did for Daniel Craig and Eon when they decided to chart a similar course. The main difference, of course, is that Trek was obviously broken when Abrams took it on, whereas Bond was merely suffering a low-grade fever which, following its incubation period, might have led to a full-blown case of the swine flu {:)
Actually, much of my review's thunder has already been stolen by Tony's excellent and comprehensive writeup above, so all I'll do is add a brushstroke or two. I thought all of the performances were spot-on, and the chemistry of these new stars is already starting to make it look as if lightning has, incredibly, been captured in a bottle yet again.
At the risk of being branded a heretic, I'm delighted to opine that Chekov, here, is IMNO a much better character than he ever was in TOS or the first Trek films. He's clearly a brilliant prodigy who (at 17!) deserves to be manning a position on the bridge of the Enterprise. Uhura and Sulu are very well-drawn (especially Uhura) given their limited time compared to other cast members. And although I'm clearly picking nits here, I'd have preferred Sulu to have actually been Japanese; I'm unsure of the actor's heritage (my guess is that he's Korean), and he's up to the part, so it's an extremely tiny gripe.
Scotty has his laugh lines, to be sure, but he also
...saves the Enterprise at the end, and after all isn't that why the miracle worker is there??
Simon Pegg was an inspired bit of casting, and I hope he gets more to do in the next one.
My sons were wonderfully unaware, in advance of seeing the film,
that Nimoy was in it B-)
Their joy of discovery, as we've taken this trek together---from TOS on DVD, to the original cast films, and now the reboot---has been a great pleasure for me. We're going to tear into TNG next... B-)
I share Tony's disappointment that the terrific Eric Bana didn't have more to do, but I can also understand that there really wasn't time to build tons of backstory there; perhaps the principal weakness of the film (nearly the only one, for me) was that, as with QoS, it simply happens very quickly. It's clearly the modern trend in films, and I'm not completely sold on its merits.
My heart goes out to the purists who might be alienated here. I hope they might embrace this extremely fun film at some level...and I have at least preliminary anecdotal evidence that new Trek fans are being made across the country as I type these words...such things are the lifeblood of franchises. As with Bond, Trek stands on the shoulders of what has come before---they wouldn't be here without their trailblazing predecessors---and their current vibrance does no disservice to their past. Not in the least.
I'm sure I've got more to say, but frankly I'm just overwhelmed with excitement and satisfaction---and relief that Star Trek will, indeed, live longer and prosper B-)
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Actually, much of my review's thunder has already been stolen by Tony's excellent and comprehensive writeup above
Aw shucks. ;% Thanks Loeffs, glad to read that you thought it worthwhile...hopefully I haven't spoiled anything for Dan Same.
I share Tony's disappointment that the terrific Eric Bana didn't have more to do, but I can also understand that there really wasn't time to build tons of backstory there; perhaps the principal weakness of the film (nearly the only one, for me) was that, as with QoS, it simply happens very quickly. It's clearly the modern trend in films, and I'm not completely sold on its merits.
After the Kelvin incident, I've read that there was a sequence that was filmed but ultimately removed from the final cut where
Nero is captured by the Klingons and spends the next 25 years on the Rura Penthe Klingon penal planet before being rescued by his cohorts. It explained more of Nero's backstory as well as the 25 year gap between the attack on the Kelvin and the destruction of Vulcan.
Apparently, some preview audiences were confused by that section and so it was removed. Hopefully it will be included in the inevitable DVD/BluRay release.
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That extra scene does make sense to me, and it would certainly have given Nero more to chew on while we were following everyone else on their way to the Enterprise bridge I smell two different versions of the DVD/BluRay...
I'd also add, re: your thoughts on Engineering, that I'm still a bit ambivalent about how it was all laid out. On one level, it was rather cool to see more of the ship's 'guts' than we've ever seen before. On the other hand, it seemed a bit antiquated by what we've come to expect in 23rd Century standards. I didn't mind it as much as you did...but I'm not sure we needed to see as much of it as we did. That was one thing Trek films I thru VI did well, IMO.
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Just saw it - loved it. What a great film. I agree 100% with Tony's take.
Sorry to hear that you couldn't see it this weekend Alex; hope you get to catch it soon.
I hope you enjoy it but be aware that certain events happen and certain characters behave in ways you may not be expecting or used to seeing. Just remember, this Trek does not overwrite the original series; it exists parallel to it.
The film made a very solid $76.5 million over the weekend (including Thursday night screenings) in the USA and an additional $35 million abroad. While not the biggest movie opening ever, that's a very healthy start, over 2 1/2 times better than the prior best opening with First Contact; especially for a franchise that was all but dead and has never really enjoyed continued mainstream success beyond its core audience. All that remains to be seen now is if the movie has legs to sustain it in the weeks to come.
I too had an opportunity to check out Star Trek this weekend. And I must join the ranks of the many who find it a worthy entry in the franchise.
TonyDP has essentially written the quintessential review of which I agree with almost all of his points. Like Loeff, I think they filmmakers actually improved upon Chekov's character, who was really a second season addition solely meant to appeal to young female viewers.
I felt Cho's Sulu was lacking some of the mischevious twinkle that Takei brought to the role. And I definitely didn't care for the uncreative 'engine room' sets. It looked like the engineering scenes were filmed in a large bottling plant rather than a well-thought out craft design. The uninteresting look of the engine room, and the dramatic flourishes on the Enterprise's exterior spoiled some of the film for me, as I always enjoyed the refined, understated majesty of the original.
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Hopefully the crew will continue to evolve on an individual basis, and grow their characters. I've high hopes for Sulu, as well as Scotty.
The more I reflect on this picture, the larger it grows in my esteem. I'm trying to drag Mrs. Loeffelholz (not a movie-goer these days!) out to see it...
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I finally saw Star Trek this afternoon, and for the most part I was happy. I have to admit that, although I'm really no hard-core Trekkie (sorry, Trekker), there were times I found myself saying, "No way--you can't do that!" and "Do I hear Gene Roddenberry spinning in his grave?" But, for the most part, I found myself enjoying the story, the characters, and even the fact this movie looks nothing like any previous Trek film or post-TOS series. Perhaps doing away with a lot of the series' trappings worked to its advantage: the series was always about stories and characters, not an elaborate mythology, so this was pretty much back to the real roots of Trek.
Anyway, what I particularly liked was the way the actors playing Kirk, Spock, and McCoy managed to channel the originals; and I also got a kick out of the Romulans not being noble warriors from the Empire, but grizzled, hard-bitten miners. A brilliant touch was the way the Romulans hail the Federation ships with a cheerful "Hello!" (and my favorite: "Hi Christopher! I'm Nero!")--it's as if they really are aliens trying to communicate in a way they believe is appropriate, even though the context is entirely wrong. I would have liked to have seen more of Nero, though, as well as Simon Pegg's Scotty (and he can lose the comical midget sidekick). Sulu did nothing for me, and I found Chekov so annoying I was wishing he'd swallow a drop of that Red Matter. As for Uhura. . .hubba hubba! Yow! Growl! Drool! :x :v
So, anyway, this Trek is about as kosher as a ham sandwich, but I like ham. Set phasers on fun!
Vox clamantis in deserto
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As for Uhura. . .hubba hubba! Yow! Growl! Drool! :x :v
With you there! {[]
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Okay, I saw this yesterday at London's Empire Leicester Square (my tip, though this is the best cinema in London up to a point, the stalls seats on the side offer the best view unless you want to spend 2 hours looking at the back of someone's head).
First Trek film I've seen at the cinema. I really enjoyed it! A great blockbuster film, loved the special effects which hardly ever seemed CGI at all (except for a snow monster or two). In fact, as reboots go I thought it far better than Casino Royale - then again, I'm not a Trekkie so didn't have my own prejudices - and frankly was thinking, wow, if only George Lucas had done his prequels like this. There's a real sense of fun about Trek that is almost deliberately missing in the rather portentous Star Wars prequels.
I found the opening 10 minutes or so really rather moving, though my sister later commented on how unlikely it would be that a woman's labour would take just one minute. Naturally, I pointed out that this was the future, so they would be able to induce labour much quicker...
Just loved the subtle sci-fi touches; the dark skyscraper in the distance of the great plains where young Kirk tears loose, and subtle homage to young Superman in the first movie; subtle how I like it, not rubbed in your face or a direct steal. A clever move to keep freaky looking aliens to a minimum early on too, they can break the suspension of disbelief for us tourists...
I agree with TonyDP that the young actors channelled the originals while bringing something new to it, unlike imo Brandon Routh as the new Superman. I warmed to them a lot, though for some reason young Spock reminded me of someone else, occasionally Jack from Will And Grace.
What didn't I like? Well, the old chestnut of time travel messing things up really. It lost me. We get into a Bond reboot thing; fleggling Craig is sort of too old to have done all the meeting No or Goldfinger stuff so in a way he's not the same guy. Ditto here, in that it's implied that by interrupting time, Spock and Kirk are meeting again under different circs so now it's not really a prequel is it? All this stuff about how you'll both go on to be great mates... Not necessarily. It's like if you got Paul McCartney to go back in time and say to his young self, you and Lennon are gonna do great, don't you worry... chances are they wouldn't go on to be The Beatles, they'd rest on their laurels. It doesn't work like that. It reminds me of these folk who try to clone a pet or even a fatally deceased kid in the belief that they can bring them back as before; it can't happen; one is the sum of one's experiences too.
Well publicised Spock spoiler:
My sister really liked old Spock coming back. Myself, I found his acting a bit of the aged Connery type. Nimoy seemed not very Vulcan any more, just himself. He seemed of a different movie. I also found the plot a bit ho hum and I'm not sure where they can take it now they've all met up. What's more, there seemed to be some holding back in the chemistry between Spock and Kirk in the original series; now it's like their relationship has peaked. They KNOW they're supposed to be great mates. It's like the characterisation is more of a cookie cutter, it's for the text generation.
All the same, best popcorn movie I've seen in a looooooooooong while. {[]
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Glad you enjoyed it, NP!
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edited May 2009
Well...I finally got a chance to see Star Trek:Zero Hour 8-) this past Sunday. Going into the theatre with fists and teeth clenched, I tried my best to enter the experience with an open mind. Alot of you here already know where I stand with this project so you can imagine how I must have looked sitting defensively in my seat waiting to pounce and cry "foul!" at the screen... )
Let it be big of me to say that J.J. Abrams really put his heart into this project. It was beautiful. The cinematography, set designs for the most part and special effects were some of the best I've seen in awhile and I was particularly in awe of a couple of shots at the beginning. He won points from me with this particular vision. However, is it just me or did the engine room look like a replica of Axis Chemicals? ?:) It looked kinda rustic?.
Now for the actors: If I had to pick one actor in particular that put a big smile on my face, it would have to be Karl Urban's dead-on channeling of DeForest Kelly's Bones. I mean that was truly awesome to me that it was so accurate. He certainly did his homework and was my favorite in the movie.
Quinto did a sufficient Spock but the direction of where they took the character sort of blemishes his overall performance for me.
That guy that played Kirk did better than I expected although I found his voice a tad irritating. There was nothing authoratative about it...just pubescent at best. He's certainly not as bad as I first thought and with sequels there is room for improvement for him to make the role his own. What I will give him credit for doing in this and did put me somewhat in his corner was his very Shatner-esque mannerisms at the film's conclusion. That was a thumbs-up moment for me. Big ups! B-)
Uhura started out positive in the first 45 minutes or so only to be reduced to fizzle as the film progressed. Definetely the weakest of the main characters although Chekov's over-bearing accent got on my nerves in a grating kind of way. Sulu was reduced to nothing more than a caricature and used pretty much in an unnecessary action sequence just to show off his skill referenced from TOS.
As for the villian, Parralax- I mean Nero was really weak but was alright for this contrived plot. There were other liberties & WTF moments that Abrams took that I'm just not okay with and may never will be so it will be interesting how this all plays out in future ventures. I might soften to it in time but I doubt it.
Overall it was a good, SOLID popcorn flick with good potential for growth. I was pleased for the most part but it has nothing on TWOK or TSFS. Sue me. You know I'm right.
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Thanks for the mini-review TP; glad to hear that as a longtime fan you enjoyed it. I hope to see it myself next Friday. {[]
"I am not an entrant in the Shakespeare Stakes." - Ian Fleming
"Screw 'em." - Daniel Craig, The Best James Bond EverTM
Uhura's bra shot was exciting, but she doesn't sound like a very good actress, sorrry. I still loathe the kid Kirk at the beginning, but young Spock's "I will not let you lecture me" and especially Nimoy's "Live long and prosper" gave me chills.
Bring it on. I'll probably do a saturday afternoon viewing. If Tony'll let me ride shotgun. Or is that Spec's seat?
If anything I can ride with Loeff and the boys. Wonder if I could qualify for kid discount?
Most reviews say Uhura is actually one of the stronger characters in the movie and Abrams apparently cut some of the childhood era Kirk scenes, so hopefully we won't be cringing in our seats too much (though sadly, the carjacking scene is still in there).
Spec and I are tentatively planning to see it on Friday (though it officialy opens with 7:00pm screenings Thursday night); you're welcome to join us Alex, just don't wear a red shirt.
Maybe RogueAgent can join in as well; I have a feeling it will take at least the three of us to restrain him if he doesn't like what he sees.
The movie conitnues to get very positive reviews; the normally stodgy Ty Burr of the Boston Globe gave it four stars and it still has a 100% rating at Rotten tomatoes. If anything, all the positive word of mouth has me a little worried; Superman Returns was similarly praised by the critics but the finished product didn't hold up for longtime fans. Hopefully, Trek won't fall into that trap.
Now I'm going to have to go and see it...
Even though I don't care for Chris Pine. JUST...CAN'T...HELP...MYSELF. I don't know the lesser evil - a frat boy Kirk, or a laundry folding, starship surrendering Picard.
But I'll miss the old-school film-making, (miniatures, stunts, squibs, terrific makeup and face appliances). But give me scenery chewing villains and a wagon train and I'll be happy.
And you know how emotional Rogue gets. His case might require the Dagger of the Mind.
Rogue, look into the neural neuralizer. You want to see the new movie. You need to see the new movie. You love the new movie.
Or a quick visit with Landru might be just as effective... :v
"You will be absorbed...your individuality will merge into the unity of good"
"But I already am of the body!"...just the original one, my friend.
I swear as each remake and reboot of a popular series comes out Nostalgia sets in for me more and more. B-)
Next, they'll have some kid actor with milk still on his breath and three hairs on his chest trying to portray Commander Koenig in a big production Space: 2099.
Batman: "The Hammer Of Justice is UNISEX!"
-Batman: The Brave & The Bold -
Absolutely; just slouch down a bit. I'll tell the lady at the box office that you've got a glandular disorder ;%
"I am not an entrant in the Shakespeare Stakes." - Ian Fleming
"Screw 'em." - Daniel Craig, The Best James Bond EverTM
Two opening nights in two weeks. I love Summer blockbuster season B-)
"I am not an entrant in the Shakespeare Stakes." - Ian Fleming
"Screw 'em." - Daniel Craig, The Best James Bond EverTM
WOW!
epic
action-packed
incredible space battles
fantastic visual effects and great sound design
but, most importantly, i was impressed with the acting performances. Pine is a great Kirk and Quinto is Spock! Greenwood, Soldana, Nimoy and Urban were also excellent.
all the little nods to TOS were fun:
it is a very entertaining movie. i'm going to see it again and i'm glad they are working on a sequel. i'll be seeing that, too!
Live Long and Prosper, Star Trek!
p.s. for those with Star Trek "angst" - there's very little "kid Kirk" in the movie
oh, and Robau is a bada$$!
"I am not an entrant in the Shakespeare Stakes." - Ian Fleming
"Screw 'em." - Daniel Craig, The Best James Bond EverTM
The movie tells the story of a Romulan called Nero who travels thru time intent on destroying the Federation. The reasons for his rage are quite personal and in trying to accomplish his goals, he changes the course of history, thus giving us a somewhat different view of the Trek universe. This frees the filmmakers to use the characters from the original show yet tell an original tale of how they came together to confront this threat.
The actors are all very solid. I was not sold on Chris Pine as Kirk as the clips often made him out to be a James Dean type rebel without a cause. Happily, those clips don't do his performance justice. He does a great job of making the character his own while also subtly channeling some of William Shatner's mannerisms without ever falling into parody.
Zachary Quinto as Spock is likewise very good; deftly walking the tightrope of balancing this younger Spock's Human and Vulcan halves. His scenes with other members of his family are particularly effective, as are those with Jacob Kogan, the actor who plays young Spock. They evoke a strong memory of DC Fontana's writing from the original show and the animated series.
Karl Urban as Dr. McCoy literally channels the late DeForest Kelley with a performance that is both endearing and funny without ever becoming caricature. He captures McCoy's irascibility wonderfully and works many of McCoy's famous one-liners into the story.
The chemistry between these three main characters is one of the keys to a successful Trek movie and its clear that these actors are on the same wavelength. There are some great scenes between them and its a treat to see the beginnings of their respective relationships with one another.
Leonard Nimoy plays the older Spock in a substantial role that is integral to the movie. He inhabits his character effortlessly providing guidance and wisdom and helping to move the story along. Its great to see him back as Spock and he doesn't disappoint.
Also very solid is Bruce Greenwood as Captain Pike, who plays the role as Kirk's mentor and father figure. Unlike so many other Starfleet captains who are borderline incompetent, Pike is every bit as qualified as Kirk and shows great strength and leadership.
The rest of the cast is solid though they don't have quite as much to offer as the main three. Simon Pegg's Scotty is used largely for comic relief while Zoe Saldana, Anton Yelchin and John Cho (Uhura, Chekov and Sulu) each are given moments to contribute to the story. Eric Bana's villainous Nero is somewhat disappointing as he doesn't have a lot of screen time. He is very much an agent of chaos, showing up and causing mayhem, but his limited screen time means we never really come know him. Ben Cross also gives a good performance Spock's father Sarek, playing him as a more compassionate Vulcan (understandable given some of the things that happen in the film). Chris Hemsworth has a small but very important and memorable role as George Kirk. Taran Fahir as Captain Robau and Wynona Ryder as Amanda, Spock's mother, both make the most of their very small roles.
Visually, the film looks great with some amazing special effects. The ships really look massive and there is great weight and mass to them. The sets and props are all recognizable while also being updated for modern audiences; the one exception being the engineering section. It looks like a boiler room or brewery (and in fact, that is exactly where those scenes were shot). One of the few real missteps in the movie.
The story goes thru some hoops to bring all these characters together and get Kirk in the captain's chair so quickly. Also, the rest of the Federation and Starfleet is largely absent (an all too common occurrence in the shows and movies) forcing our heroes to confront the threat on their own. Still, the great interactions among the main characters overcome any weaknesses of plot.
Longtime fans who cannot get past other actors taking on these roles will probably have a hard time embracing this movie. Likewise, the canon-freaks who cannot stand any changes to Trek's established timeline will also find much to complain about. This story takes place in a different universe and some events and even relationships between certain characters are different that what fans may be used to or remember. If you can't get by that then your ability to have a good time will be compromised.
As for myself and my brother, we had a great time. We quickly came to like and care for these characters and look forward to more adventures with this new cast and eventually buying this movie on BluRay.
First of all, I think it's very important to tip the hat to JJ Abrams and his entire creative team for stepping up to the plate and taking a home-run swing at this most daunting of challenges...and I'll admit to feeling a certain vicarious thrill on their behalf, much as I did for Daniel Craig and Eon when they decided to chart a similar course. The main difference, of course, is that Trek was obviously broken when Abrams took it on, whereas Bond was merely suffering a low-grade fever which, following its incubation period, might have led to a full-blown case of the swine flu {:)
Actually, much of my review's thunder has already been stolen by Tony's excellent and comprehensive writeup above, so all I'll do is add a brushstroke or two. I thought all of the performances were spot-on, and the chemistry of these new stars is already starting to make it look as if lightning has, incredibly, been captured in a bottle yet again.
At the risk of being branded a heretic, I'm delighted to opine that Chekov, here, is IMNO a much better character than he ever was in TOS or the first Trek films. He's clearly a brilliant prodigy who (at 17!) deserves to be manning a position on the bridge of the Enterprise. Uhura and Sulu are very well-drawn (especially Uhura) given their limited time compared to other cast members. And although I'm clearly picking nits here, I'd have preferred Sulu to have actually been Japanese; I'm unsure of the actor's heritage (my guess is that he's Korean), and he's up to the part, so it's an extremely tiny gripe.
Scotty has his laugh lines, to be sure, but he also
My sons were wonderfully unaware, in advance of seeing the film,
I share Tony's disappointment that the terrific Eric Bana didn't have more to do, but I can also understand that there really wasn't time to build tons of backstory there; perhaps the principal weakness of the film (nearly the only one, for me) was that, as with QoS, it simply happens very quickly. It's clearly the modern trend in films, and I'm not completely sold on its merits.
My heart goes out to the purists who might be alienated here. I hope they might embrace this extremely fun film at some level...and I have at least preliminary anecdotal evidence that new Trek fans are being made across the country as I type these words...such things are the lifeblood of franchises. As with Bond, Trek stands on the shoulders of what has come before---they wouldn't be here without their trailblazing predecessors---and their current vibrance does no disservice to their past. Not in the least.
I'm sure I've got more to say, but frankly I'm just overwhelmed with excitement and satisfaction---and relief that Star Trek will, indeed, live longer and prosper B-)
"I am not an entrant in the Shakespeare Stakes." - Ian Fleming
"Screw 'em." - Daniel Craig, The Best James Bond EverTM
Aw shucks. ;% Thanks Loeffs, glad to read that you thought it worthwhile...hopefully I haven't spoiled anything for Dan Same.
After the Kelvin incident, I've read that there was a sequence that was filmed but ultimately removed from the final cut where
Apparently, some preview audiences were confused by that section and so it was removed. Hopefully it will be included in the inevitable DVD/BluRay release.
I'd also add, re: your thoughts on Engineering, that I'm still a bit ambivalent about how it was all laid out. On one level, it was rather cool to see more of the ship's 'guts' than we've ever seen before. On the other hand, it seemed a bit antiquated by what we've come to expect in 23rd Century standards. I didn't mind it as much as you did...but I'm not sure we needed to see as much of it as we did. That was one thing Trek films I thru VI did well, IMO.
"I am not an entrant in the Shakespeare Stakes." - Ian Fleming
"Screw 'em." - Daniel Craig, The Best James Bond EverTM
Unfortunately I had to postpone my plans for opening weekend.
I hope you enjoy it but be aware that certain events happen and certain characters behave in ways you may not be expecting or used to seeing. Just remember, this Trek does not overwrite the original series; it exists parallel to it.
The film made a very solid $76.5 million over the weekend (including Thursday night screenings) in the USA and an additional $35 million abroad. While not the biggest movie opening ever, that's a very healthy start, over 2 1/2 times better than the prior best opening with First Contact; especially for a franchise that was all but dead and has never really enjoyed continued mainstream success beyond its core audience. All that remains to be seen now is if the movie has legs to sustain it in the weeks to come.
TonyDP has essentially written the quintessential review of which I agree with almost all of his points. Like Loeff, I think they filmmakers actually improved upon Chekov's character, who was really a second season addition solely meant to appeal to young female viewers.
I felt Cho's Sulu was lacking some of the mischevious twinkle that Takei brought to the role. And I definitely didn't care for the uncreative 'engine room' sets. It looked like the engineering scenes were filmed in a large bottling plant rather than a well-thought out craft design. The uninteresting look of the engine room, and the dramatic flourishes on the Enterprise's exterior spoiled some of the film for me, as I always enjoyed the refined, understated majesty of the original.
The more I reflect on this picture, the larger it grows in my esteem. I'm trying to drag Mrs. Loeffelholz (not a movie-goer these days!) out to see it...
"I am not an entrant in the Shakespeare Stakes." - Ian Fleming
"Screw 'em." - Daniel Craig, The Best James Bond EverTM
Anyway, what I particularly liked was the way the actors playing Kirk, Spock, and McCoy managed to channel the originals; and I also got a kick out of the Romulans not being noble warriors from the Empire, but grizzled, hard-bitten miners. A brilliant touch was the way the Romulans hail the Federation ships with a cheerful "Hello!" (and my favorite: "Hi Christopher! I'm Nero!")--it's as if they really are aliens trying to communicate in a way they believe is appropriate, even though the context is entirely wrong. I would have liked to have seen more of Nero, though, as well as Simon Pegg's Scotty (and he can lose the comical midget sidekick). Sulu did nothing for me, and I found Chekov so annoying I was wishing he'd swallow a drop of that Red Matter. As for Uhura. . .hubba hubba! Yow! Growl! Drool! :x :v
So, anyway, this Trek is about as kosher as a ham sandwich, but I like ham. Set phasers on fun!
I felt that way about Mr. Koenig for thirty years
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"I am not an entrant in the Shakespeare Stakes." - Ian Fleming
"Screw 'em." - Daniel Craig, The Best James Bond EverTM
First Trek film I've seen at the cinema. I really enjoyed it! A great blockbuster film, loved the special effects which hardly ever seemed CGI at all (except for a snow monster or two). In fact, as reboots go I thought it far better than Casino Royale - then again, I'm not a Trekkie so didn't have my own prejudices - and frankly was thinking, wow, if only George Lucas had done his prequels like this. There's a real sense of fun about Trek that is almost deliberately missing in the rather portentous Star Wars prequels.
I found the opening 10 minutes or so really rather moving, though my sister later commented on how unlikely it would be that a woman's labour would take just one minute. Naturally, I pointed out that this was the future, so they would be able to induce labour much quicker...
Just loved the subtle sci-fi touches; the dark skyscraper in the distance of the great plains where young Kirk tears loose, and subtle homage to young Superman in the first movie; subtle how I like it, not rubbed in your face or a direct steal. A clever move to keep freaky looking aliens to a minimum early on too, they can break the suspension of disbelief for us tourists...
I agree with TonyDP that the young actors channelled the originals while bringing something new to it, unlike imo Brandon Routh as the new Superman. I warmed to them a lot, though for some reason young Spock reminded me of someone else, occasionally Jack from Will And Grace.
What didn't I like? Well, the old chestnut of time travel messing things up really. It lost me. We get into a Bond reboot thing; fleggling Craig is sort of too old to have done all the meeting No or Goldfinger stuff so in a way he's not the same guy. Ditto here, in that it's implied that by interrupting time, Spock and Kirk are meeting again under different circs so now it's not really a prequel is it? All this stuff about how you'll both go on to be great mates... Not necessarily. It's like if you got Paul McCartney to go back in time and say to his young self, you and Lennon are gonna do great, don't you worry... chances are they wouldn't go on to be The Beatles, they'd rest on their laurels. It doesn't work like that. It reminds me of these folk who try to clone a pet or even a fatally deceased kid in the belief that they can bring them back as before; it can't happen; one is the sum of one's experiences too.
Well publicised Spock spoiler:
All the same, best popcorn movie I've seen in a looooooooooong while. {[]
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"I am not an entrant in the Shakespeare Stakes." - Ian Fleming
"Screw 'em." - Daniel Craig, The Best James Bond EverTM
Let it be big of me to say that J.J. Abrams really put his heart into this project. It was beautiful. The cinematography, set designs for the most part and special effects were some of the best I've seen in awhile and I was particularly in awe of a couple of shots at the beginning. He won points from me with this particular vision. However, is it just me or did the engine room look like a replica of Axis Chemicals? ?:) It looked kinda rustic?.
Now for the actors: If I had to pick one actor in particular that put a big smile on my face, it would have to be Karl Urban's dead-on channeling of DeForest Kelly's Bones. I mean that was truly awesome to me that it was so accurate. He certainly did his homework and was my favorite in the movie.
Quinto did a sufficient Spock but the direction of where they took the character sort of blemishes his overall performance for me.
That guy that played Kirk did better than I expected although I found his voice a tad irritating. There was nothing authoratative about it...just pubescent at best. He's certainly not as bad as I first thought and with sequels there is room for improvement for him to make the role his own. What I will give him credit for doing in this and did put me somewhat in his corner was his very Shatner-esque mannerisms at the film's conclusion. That was a thumbs-up moment for me. Big ups! B-)
Uhura started out positive in the first 45 minutes or so only to be reduced to fizzle as the film progressed. Definetely the weakest of the main characters although Chekov's over-bearing accent got on my nerves in a grating kind of way. Sulu was reduced to nothing more than a caricature and used pretty much in an unnecessary action sequence just to show off his skill referenced from TOS.
As for the villian, Parralax- I mean Nero was really weak but was alright for this contrived plot. There were other liberties & WTF moments that Abrams took that I'm just not okay with and may never will be so it will be interesting how this all plays out in future ventures. I might soften to it in time but I doubt it.
Overall it was a good, SOLID popcorn flick with good potential for growth. I was pleased for the most part but it has nothing on TWOK or TSFS. Sue me. You know I'm right.
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