Star Trek 2.0

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  • AlexAlex The Eastern SeaboardPosts: 2,694MI6 Agent
    Still not wild about a reboot. Could be the best Trek since Undiscovered Country, I still dislike prequels or glimpses at growing periods of fully established iconic characters. And I'm a heavy duty Original Series man.

    I predict that at some point, young Spock will give the Prosperous signal for the very first time. A swelling of music will accompany this.

    Is there a trailer yet?
  • TonyDPTonyDP Inside the MonolithPosts: 4,303MI6 Agent
    edited October 2008
    Alex wrote:
    Is there a trailer yet?

    A full trailer will be released in November and all signs currently point to it being attached to QoS (I posted a blurb about this on the QoS "Ramping up publicity" thread as well).

    Abrams & Co. are not really calling this a reboot, so much as an adventure detailing how these characters first met. It's more "Star Trek Begins" than anything else from what I've read. I had my doubts about this but I really like the cast and, finally having started to watch Lost over the past few weeks, I feel much better about their ability to tell a good story.

    As a fellow hardcore TOS fan I'm going to keep an open mind and hope for the best. The trailer will probably go a long ways towards allaying (or confirming) people's fears / expectations.
  • AlexAlex The Eastern SeaboardPosts: 2,694MI6 Agent
    TonyDP wrote:
    A full trailer will be released in November and all signs currently point to it being attached to QoS (I posted a blurb about this on the QoS "Ramping up publicity" thread as well).
    OK, just read that, thanks.
  • TonyDPTonyDP Inside the MonolithPosts: 4,303MI6 Agent
    edited October 2008
    Now that a trailer has been all but officially announced, we're starting to get some real images. The new issue of Entertainment Weekly has some pics including this one of Spock apparently attacking Kirk (courtesy of AICN):

    spock.jpg

    You can go here for more info: AICN Trek Info

    And here's a pic of another Federation starship, the USS Kelvin, having what looks like a bad day:

    usskelvin1t.jpg

    You can go here for more info (and more shots are supposed to show up at this site later): USS Kelvin

    Here's a pic of the crew:
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    And you can go here for a larger version and more info: Trek Crew


    Here's the cover of the upcoming issue of EW featuring Kirk and Spock; Spock doesn't look quite right here, hopefully just a case of bad lighting and a quick setup for a magazine. Pine on the other hand does remind me a lot of a young Shatner here:

    ew1015trekcover.jpg

    There's also a pretty large picture of Romulan bad guy Nero on his ship at http://www.joblo.com (the picture is near the top of the page; the site does not seem to like hot links to images).
  • LoeffelholzLoeffelholz The United States, With LovePosts: 8,998Quartermasters
    I have a good feeling about this one B-)
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  • TonyDPTonyDP Inside the MonolithPosts: 4,303MI6 Agent
    edited October 2008
    And here's another one courtesy of MTV of Kirk & crew on the bridge:

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    You can go here for more info on the pic: Kirk on the bridge
  • LoeffelholzLoeffelholz The United States, With LovePosts: 8,998Quartermasters
    edited October 2008
    Great stuff there, Tony, Thanks! Interesting to see what the bridge of a Constitution Class Starship looks like these days B-)

    And I see mini-skirts made the cut as well...cool B-)
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  • TonyDPTonyDP Inside the MonolithPosts: 4,303MI6 Agent
    edited October 2008
    Great stuff there, Tony, Thanks! Interesting to see what the bridge of a Constitution Class Starship looks like these days B-)

    And I see mini-skirts made the cut as well...cool B-)

    My pleasure Loeffs. I've got to admit, as a longtime and hardcore Trek fan, I'm really geeking out on these pics, especially the one of Pine assuming one of those classic Kirkian poses on the bridge. I was a little worried when I'd read that the uniforms were going to be very close to what was on TOS as I was afraid they'd look dated, but they really look good. The new bridge also is very interesting, it reminds me of a painting I once saw of an unused concept for Star Trek: The Motion Picture.

    And here's one more image of Kirk getting out of an escape pod on an ice planet.

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    You can go here for more info about the pic: Kirk on Ice
  • LoeffelholzLoeffelholz The United States, With LovePosts: 8,998Quartermasters
    I'm not wild about the black uniform for Kirk...we'll see where they go with it...
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  • TonyDPTonyDP Inside the MonolithPosts: 4,303MI6 Agent
    edited October 2008
    I'm not wild about the black uniform for Kirk...we'll see where they go with it...

    I was reading that it factors into the story; he's wearing it for a specific reason but will get the classic gold tunic before the end of the film.
  • HardyboyHardyboy Posts: 5,901Chief of Staff
    Yay miniskirts! And I have to admit, Simon Pegg is looking awfully Doohanish in that group shot. I might give this one a chance.
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  • LoeffelholzLoeffelholz The United States, With LovePosts: 8,998Quartermasters
    edited October 2008
    Hardyboy wrote:
    Yay miniskirts! And I have to admit, Simon Pegg is looking awfully Doohanish in that group shot. I might give this one a chance.

    I'd heard that the reason Trek was pushed back was because of the tremendously positive response it got at advance screenings...Paramount wanted a solid tent-pole 'event' flick for '09...
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  • AlexAlex The Eastern SeaboardPosts: 2,694MI6 Agent
    I forgot how much I miss Trek. Those images look fantastic.

    Hope my misgivings are misguided. I would love having another great dvd to blow my speakers with. (Actor playing Spock looks very good)
  • TonyDPTonyDP Inside the MonolithPosts: 4,303MI6 Agent
    edited October 2008
    Alex wrote:
    I forgot how much I miss Trek. Those images look fantastic.

    Hope my misgivings are misguided. I would love having another great dvd to blow my speakers with. (Actor playing Spock looks very good)

    Give it a chance Alex; to my way of thinking, it can't be any worse than what has passed for Trek over the last 15 years or so.

    BTW, the Entertainment Weekly article on the movie is up. Lots of info, a new pic of the USS Kelvin, confirmation that the trailer will premiere in front of QoS, and also some SPOILERS, so read at your own discretion.

    Article is here: EW Star Trek Article
  • emtiememtiem SurreyPosts: 5,877MI6 Agent
    Thanks for that- it's good to finally see some stuff from this; it's all looking pretty decent.

    Not convinced by the bridge design just yet- it looks like a branch of Specsavers. What are all those spotlights for?
  • AlexAlex The Eastern SeaboardPosts: 2,694MI6 Agent
    edited October 2008
    TonyDP wrote:
    Give it a chance Alex; to my way of thinking, it can't be any worse than what has passed for Trek over the last 15 years or so.
    I enjoyed the later ones for their merits. (But hated Kirk's meaningless death)

    A fresh, relevant, and inspired story is all we ask for.

    Hopeful ..
  • Agent_MAgent_M lost in the speed forcePosts: 353MI6 Agent
    loving the new(old) uniforms but what's with the eye on top of that ship?
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  • TonyDPTonyDP Inside the MonolithPosts: 4,303MI6 Agent
    edited October 2008
    Agent_M wrote:
    loving the new(old) uniforms but what's with the eye on top of that ship?

    If you're referring to the USS Kelvin, its hard to say but from that angle I think it's the secondary hull; and you can just make out what looks like the tip of a single warp drive nacelle under the circular primary hull. Here's a pic of the ship; if you were to flip it upside down, it would look a lot like the familiar Enterprise design:

    kelvin2widet.jpg

    BTW, there are a few more new pics at Trekmovie.com; nothing special, just closeups of some of the actors in costume. More Trek Photos

    And just for laughs, courtesy of Entertainment Weekly, here are Captain Kirk's 20 Best and Worst Moments: Kirk's 20 Best and Worst
  • Agent_MAgent_M lost in the speed forcePosts: 353MI6 Agent
    TonyDP wrote:
    Agent_M wrote:
    loving the new(old) uniforms but what's with the eye on top of that ship?

    If you're referring to the USS Kelvin, its hard to say but from that angle I think it's the secondary hull; and you can just make out what looks like the tip of a single warp drive nacelle under the circular primary hull. Here's a pic of the ship; if you were to flip it upside down, it would look a lot like the familiar Enterprise design:

    But it looks as if its been badly added after almost as if something was being covered, but that could just be me.
    It does look a bit like the old nebula class or constellation class though
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  • AlexAlex The Eastern SeaboardPosts: 2,694MI6 Agent
    Thanks for the best/worst list, Tony, wonderful stuff -{

    I'm not going to read any spoilers though. Keeping it fresh like QoS.

    Nero looks very, um, satanic.
  • TonyDPTonyDP Inside the MonolithPosts: 4,303MI6 Agent
    edited October 2008
    Agent_M wrote:
    But it looks as if its been badly added after almost as if something was being covered, but that could just be me.
    It does look a bit like the old nebula class or constellation class though

    It is reminiscent of the Nebula class with the pod on top; could very well be something like that as its hard to really make out details when you're looking at a 3D object in a 2D picture without being sure of the proportions. There also looks to be a small spaceship on the right.

    I'm sure we'll get better views of everything and everyone in the trailer - yet another reason to see QoS opening weekend. ;)


    Alex wrote:
    Thanks for the best/worst list, Tony, wonderful stuff -{

    I'm not going to read any spoilers though. Keeping it fresh like QoS.

    Nero looks very, um, satanic.

    That was a fun read, lots of great Kirk moments there and it also shows that Shatner can be a very effective actor when he needs to be.

    My brother pointed out that Nero looks kind of like Barlow from that Salem's Lot TV movie from the mid 1970s and I can see that somewhat as well.

    I'm going to try my darndest, but it's going to be really hard for me to stay spoiler free on this one till next May.
  • AlexAlex The Eastern SeaboardPosts: 2,694MI6 Agent
    Urban looks great as the Doc, and he's a good actor too, judging by LOTR. Bones was always my favorite ST character because, as Kelley himself once put it, he was a "humanistic human being"

    I'm not sure about Pine as Kirk, looks like a college frat boy. Too National Lampoon's Van Wilder for my tastes.

    Off topic but if anyone remembers the SciFi channel's marathon from around ten years back. There were some great interviews with many people no longer with us. I recorded every one on vhs. Are these available anywhere on dvd?
  • TonyDPTonyDP Inside the MonolithPosts: 4,303MI6 Agent
    edited October 2008
    Alex wrote:
    Urban looks great as the Doc, and he's a good actor too, judging by LOTR. Bones was always my favorite ST character because, as Kelley himself once put it, he was a "humanistic human being"

    I had a feeling that Urban would come off as a good Dr. McCoy. He has a way of disappearing into his roles and seems like a down to earth guy. Pretty smart piece of casting IMHO.
    I'm not sure about Pine as Kirk, looks like a college frat boy. Too National Lampoon's Van Wilder for my tastes.

    I haven't seen in him anything and am curious to see him actually act and hear what his voice sounds like. As I said before, the trailer will probably go a long way towards selling us or confirming our doubts.
    Off topic but if anyone remembers the SciFi channel's marathon from around ten years back. There were some great interviews with many people no longer with us. I recorded every one on vhs. Are these available anywhere on dvd?

    They definitely aren't on the DVD's that Paramount released. Since they were commissioned by the SciFi Channel, I'm inclined to think that they're not available anywhere else. I'd hold on to them if I were you, and maybe even burn them onto a DVD.
  • RogueAgentRogueAgent Speeding in the Tumbler...Posts: 3,676MI6 Agent
    edited October 2008
    Alex wrote:
    I'm not sure about Pine as Kirk, looks like a college frat boy. Too National Lampoon's Van Wilder for my tastes.


    AGREED. I'm not feeling this guy AT ALL. He does have that pretty-boy, The O.C. thing going for him, not someone who knows how to run a starship. And what the hell is up with that surfer's mock he's wearing? :s

    That is NOT Captain James T. Kirk. 8-)

    Urban seems to have channeled DeForest Kelly brilliantly! That's as close to Bones as you're going to get. {[]

    Everyone else...well, we'll see. Maybe another trailer will get me in the mood for it.
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  • LoeffelholzLoeffelholz The United States, With LovePosts: 8,998Quartermasters
    edited October 2008
    RogueAgent wrote:
    That is NOT Captain James T. Kirk. 8-)

    Oh no! Unconventional casting! :o

    It's over... :'(

    :v

    EDIT: Perhaps 'unconventional' isn't the right word, and 'not William Shatner' is more to the point. Well, we might as well hold out for a Sean Connery return to the Bond franchise...

    I don't think I've seen the guy's work...but perhaps he won't suck. I'm going to allow for the possibility.
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  • RogueAgentRogueAgent Speeding in the Tumbler...Posts: 3,676MI6 Agent
    edited October 2008
    RogueAgent wrote:
    That is NOT Captain James T. Kirk. 8-)

    Oh no! Unconventional casting! :o

    It's over... :'(

    :v

    Loeff...we've been doing good this year... don't start. :)) :v

    I should feel ashamed to say this but even though I'm going to see this because I'm a curious 60s Trekkie, I kinda want it to bomb but at the same time I want it to be good...

    Abrams is good at what he does but at the same time, he's such a tool on this. That is not Kirk! Why not recreate the Picard generation and leave the 60s one alone!! X-(

    Sorry for that rant. I just hold Shatner & Co. in such high regard. :(
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  • LoeffelholzLoeffelholz The United States, With LovePosts: 8,998Quartermasters
    edited October 2008
    RogueAgent wrote:
    Loeff...we've been doing good this year... don't start. :)) :v

    Fair enough; the guy's no Oscar Jade, but... ;)

    With respect (and this is an old retort)...he is Kirk now. The only question is: Will he succeed?

    I'm a huge Trek fan myself...and I'll concede the guy's no dead ringer for Shatner...but I've got the same kind of positive 'gut' feeling about this one that I had for another recent (and controversial) reboot, and I've learnt to trust my gut. The '60s Treks are all still with us, as are the previous 20 Bond flicks. Nothing that happens from here on in these franchises changes that---at least as far as I'm concerned.

    Predictable, I know...but there it is {[]
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  • RogueAgentRogueAgent Speeding in the Tumbler...Posts: 3,676MI6 Agent
    edited October 2008
    RogueAgent wrote:
    Loeff...we've been doing good this year... don't start. :)) :v

    Fair enough; the guy's no Oscar Jade, but... ;)

    :))
    With respect (and this is an old retort)...he is Kirk now. The only question is: Will he succeed?

    My answer: I hope not. X-(

    But I am man enough to admit if I'm wrong. I'll give him props if he's convincing enough.

    Again, what's up with the model shirt he's wearing? Where's his insignia? The rank stripes? Who does he think he is? Lloyd Bridges? ?:)
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  • LoeffelholzLoeffelholz The United States, With LovePosts: 8,998Quartermasters
    RogueAgent wrote:
    Again, what's up with the model shirt he's wearing? Where's his insignia? The rank stripes? Who does he think he is? Lloyd Bridges? ?:)

    Well...if he is---given your reaction---he probably picked the wrong week to quit sniffing glue :p
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