Most Underrated Bond film?

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  • AlucardAlucard Posts: 5MI6 Agent
    I love AVTAK:xNSNA isn't that bad,it's better than DAD!
  • Dan SameDan Same Victoria, AustraliaPosts: 6,054MI6 Agent
    edited June 2006
    Alucard wrote:
    NSNA isn't that bad,it's better than DAD!
    Any film is better than DAD! :D
    (Its third last on my list; only TLD and AVTAK are lower.)
    "He’s a man way out there in the blue, riding on a smile and a shoeshine. And when they start not smiling back—that’s an earthquake. and then you get yourself a couple of spots on your hat, and you’re finished. Nobody dast blame this man. A salesman is got to dream, boy. It comes with the territory." Death of a Salesman
  • JennyFlexFanJennyFlexFan Posts: 1,497MI6 Agent
    taity, my dad brought up the issue of Fatima's death. The note thing I agree is contrived so Bond can use the rocket pen but I happen to be a fan of the movie and you aren't which is fine!
  • taitytaity Posts: 702MI6 Agent
    My problem is that alot of the movie feels like that - a little forced rather than a more natural flowing pattern.
  • taitytaity Posts: 702MI6 Agent
    Dan Same wrote:
    quote]Any film is better than DAD! :D
    (Its third last on my list; only TLD and AVTAK are lower.)

    Wait, Im confused. How can you say any film is better than DAD when you go on to list ones that are worse? Surely they cant be better.
  • Pierce_BrosnanPierce_Brosnan Posts: 329MI6 Agent
    taity wrote:
    Dan Same wrote:
    quote]Any film is better than DAD! :D
    (Its third last on my list; only TLD and AVTAK are lower.)

    Wait, Im confused. How can you say any film is better than DAD when you go on to list ones that are worse? Surely they cant be better.

    Yes, Dan might have used it as an "expression".
  • Dan SameDan Same Victoria, AustraliaPosts: 6,054MI6 Agent
    Yes, Dan might have used it as an "expression".
    You're right. I did use it as an expression. I could have postively described DAD (given that I consider two films to be worse) but I refuse to given DAD any credit at all! :D
    "He’s a man way out there in the blue, riding on a smile and a shoeshine. And when they start not smiling back—that’s an earthquake. and then you get yourself a couple of spots on your hat, and you’re finished. Nobody dast blame this man. A salesman is got to dream, boy. It comes with the territory." Death of a Salesman
  • Pierce_BrosnanPierce_Brosnan Posts: 329MI6 Agent
    Dan Same wrote:
    Yes, Dan might have used it as an "expression".
    You're right. I did use it as an expression. I could have postively described DAD (given that I consider two films to be worse) but I refuse to given DAD any credit at all! :D

    Hmmmm, well I was right ! {[] :))
  • taitytaity Posts: 702MI6 Agent
    Dan Same wrote:
    You're right. I did use it as an expression. I could have postively described DAD (given that I consider two films to be worse) but I refuse to given DAD any credit at all! :D

    Again confusion, If you say you have the potential to descirbe DAD favourably, isnt that giving it credit.
  • Dan SameDan Same Victoria, AustraliaPosts: 6,054MI6 Agent
    edited June 2006
    taity wrote:
    Again confusion, If you say you have the potential to descirbe DAD favourably, isnt that giving it credit.
    No. The only way I could describe DAD positively is by saying "I really hate that film but at least it's better than TLD and AVTAK." That would be like saying "Person A killed 14 people, but hey, person B killed 16 people." That's not exactly describing Person A positively. ;)
    "He’s a man way out there in the blue, riding on a smile and a shoeshine. And when they start not smiling back—that’s an earthquake. and then you get yourself a couple of spots on your hat, and you’re finished. Nobody dast blame this man. A salesman is got to dream, boy. It comes with the territory." Death of a Salesman
  • Sweepy the CatSweepy the Cat Halifax, West Yorkshire, EnglaPosts: 986MI6 Agent
    The 1969-73 era, we had three different Bond's in three ace films.
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  • Blink MeBlink Me Posts: 9MI6 Agent
    Loads of you are going to hate me for this but to me:

    Moonraker- I don't see whats so bad about it. Its in my top 5 favourite bond films. I know it was nothing like the book (which i liked)and I know Jaws acted like an idiot in it, but i found it entertaining. And i loved the final battle at the end. And Hugo Drax was a real nasty character.

    Tomorrow Never Dies- A really great action packed film. Its my favourite Brosnan film after goldeneye. I didn't really like the ones after. I know a media baron trying to cause WW3 might seem unbelievable, but it didn't bother me.

    Licence to Kill- I know it didn't feel like a traditional bond film, but Casino Royale didn't feel that way for me either, and i loved that as well. It was action packed and i liked the story.

    Living Daylights- Yet again i liked the story and how the fighting parts in it as well. Felt bad for the guy who got blown up in the doorway.

    A View To a Kill- The film isn't action packed, but i still liked the story and found it entertaining. It might be though as that was one of the first bond films i ever saw.
  • actonsteveactonsteve Posts: 299MI6 Agent
    Blink Me wrote:
    Living Daylights- Yet again i liked the story and how the fighting parts in it as well. Felt bad for the guy who got blown up in the doorway.

    A.

    TLD isnt underratted, except by Dan San - its generally in most peoples top ten.
  • Blink MeBlink Me Posts: 9MI6 Agent
    oh woops. sorry i thought quite a lot of people didn't like it.
  • corleone44corleone44 Posts: 19MI6 Agent
    There are many Bond movies that deserve more mention but don't get it. These include:

    1.OHMSS-I simply don't get the weird aversion some have towards George Lazenby as Bond (my dad hated him). Not to mention this is one of my favorite Bond films, also because Telly Savalas made a very good villain. Lazenby handled the role very well in my opinion, and again, this is a pivotal point in Bond's life. He gets married and she is murdered, and this is mentioned throughout the series.

    2.LTK-In short, this Dalton Bond film simply kicks ass. Sanchez is a very cool villain who doesn't hesitate to kill whoever talks back to him. 007 himself seems somewhat stronger here, and the movie in general is a solid and hard hitting entry.

    3.LALD-Roger Moore is a very good Bond, (though I don't yet have a favorite; hard to choose) and comes off as sophisticated and cool as ever in his first turn here. The "baxploitation" setting in Harlem was also an interesting setting for the movie. Very good entry.

    4.Goldeneye-Pierce Brosnan's debut is very good as well. Sean Bean as Trevelyan and the fight scene at the end also rock.

    5.Man With The Golden Gun-Another good Roger Moore one, and Christopher Lee is unforgettable as the cool Francisco Scaramanga.
  • ATPrescottATPrescott Posts: 39MI6 Agent
    Moonraker.
    Licence to Kill.
    A View to a Kill.
  • JarvioJarvio EnglandPosts: 4,241MI6 Agent
    Number 1 most underrated is AVTAK, it's just so enjoyable and entertaining, yet people always seem to emphasize on it's faults more than it's good points IMO. A top film and I never get bored of it.

    LALD is slightly underrated as I personally think it's the best Bond film but a lot of people dislike it. However, many also like this one too, which is why it's only slightly underrated. Same applies to LTK.

    TMWTGG is slightly underrated too. One of the least popular films, but I would rank it somewhere in the middle personally. Has some really good things going for it. But also, it's nothing special either, which is why it's only slightly underrated.

    Really though, AVTAK is by far the most underrated Bond film IMHO.
    1 - LALD, 2 - AVTAK, 3 - LTK, 4 - OP, 5 - NTTD, 6 - FYEO, 7 - SF, 8 - DN, 9 - DAF, 10 - TSWLM, 11 - OHMSS, 12 - TMWTGG, 13 - GE, 14 - MR, 15 - TLD, 16 - YOLT, 17 - GF, 18 - DAD, 19 - TWINE, 20 - SP, 21 - TND, 22 - FRWL, 23 - TB, 24 - CR, 25 - QOS

    1 - Moore, 2 - Dalton, 3 - Craig, 4 - Connery, 5 - Brosnan, 6 - Lazenby
  • GeorgiboyGeorgiboy Posts: 632MI6 Agent
    edited December 2007
    Jarvio wrote:
    Number 1 most underrated is AVTAK, it's just so enjoyable and entertaining, yet people always seem to emphasize on it's faults more than it's good points IMO. A top film and I never get bored of it.

    Really though, AVTAK is by far the most underrated Bond film IMHO.

    I couldn't agree more. Just last week I was watching AVTAK and I enjoyed every minute of it. Max Zorin is one of the best villains of the series, there is many diverse locations, and a lot of mind boggling stunts. Its actually not bad at all if you look past Roger Moore's age.
  • Napoleon PluralNapoleon Plural LondonPosts: 10,467MI6 Agent
    Yeah, and I'm almost alone in thinking that Moore looks younger or at least leaner in this than in the previous two films.
    "This is where we leave you Mr Bond."

    Roger Moore 1927-2017
  • cbdouble07cbdouble07 Posts: 132MI6 Agent
    Always thought LALD was underrated. It's a great film to bring in Moore's Bond. Moore's performance is excellent and the voodoo backdrop is interesting. Even though it's been dubbed underrated so much it's in danger of becoming overrated I have to put OHMSS here as well simply for the fact that some people still won't watch it because it is 'James Bond can't get married' and Lazenby is 'inferior'. So many people overlook this film which is one of the greatest in the series.
  • corleone44corleone44 Posts: 19MI6 Agent
    edited January 2008
    Georgiboy wrote:
    Jarvio wrote:
    Number 1 most underrated is AVTAK, it's just so enjoyable and entertaining, yet people always seem to emphasize on it's faults more than it's good points IMO. A top film and I never get bored of it.

    Really though, AVTAK is by far the most underrated Bond film IMHO.

    I couldn't agree more. Just last week I was watching AVTAK and I enjoyed every minute of it. Max Zorin is one of the best villains of the series, there is many diverse locations, and a lot of mind boggling stunts. Its actually not bad at all if you look past Roger Moore's age.


    I definitely agree on AVTAK. Excellent Roger Moore Bond and Christopher Walken rules as the villain! Pure psycho coolness. Very underrated and cool Bond film, and I'm surprised some people rate it so low.
  • Golden JawsGolden Jaws Posts: 6MI6 Agent
    edited January 2008
    I would probably say that Tomorrows never dies and The living daylights are the most underrated.
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