I think that it's up to IJ4 to prove that he's still got it and recapture what, in our eyes at the time, made it so endearing and awesome. Kids that I and/or my son know either know Indy or don't or don't care.
I'm not convinced that's a given: the Indy movies are occasionally screened as a series at primetime by the BBC here and they still get very good ratings. I'd be amazed if kids weren't aware of Indy. And that logic says that the Star Wars movies shouldn't have done any business either..
Now, to get back to the poster- what's the redesigned Indiana Jones logo about? I'm rather of the mind 'if it ain't broke...' meself!
Now, to get back to the poster- what's the redesigned Indiana Jones logo about? I'm rather of the mind 'if it ain't broke...' meself!
How's it been redesigned? Looks to be in pretty much the same razzmatazz typeface to me. The real question is, howcum in the poster Indy doesn't look like he's aged since Raiders?
Late to this thread, but I am neutral on this film until I see more. I think Harrison may be too old for the role and as Tony stated, he isn't box office magic anymore. Nice to see Karen Allen in it, I thought she had chemistry with Ford. With Spielberg directing I know it won't be too bad.
It appears the letters in "Indiana Jones" are bumping into each other. You can see where they are overlapping a bit. It gives the type a bit of a cartoonish look IMO. I agree with emtiem...they should have left it alone.
With Spielberg directing I know it won't be too bad.
Yeah exactly. I'm much less worried about this than the Star Wars prequels- Spielberg does rather know what he's doing behind a movie camera! He's phoned in stuff like this before (Lost World for example), but I think it's fair to say that his heart's in this one. Perhaps it won't rival the original three, but it's sure to be a decent and very watchable film, and very good fun.
And it'll knock Young Indy out of the water! What were they thinking of? Oh yeah; George. 8-)
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edited December 2007
The fonts for the Indy movies have always looked cartoonish to me; they never looked serious in the beginning. These slight alterations to a mere font doesn't kill the entire picture for me...we know the character and what he's about so it's in the neighborhood.
To echo what H.B. said though, that does look more like 1980s Indy than it does present day Indy. Seems that they were careful not to make him look the least bit gereatric at all.
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It appears the letters in "Indiana Jones" are bumping into each other. You can see where they are overlapping a bit.
Plus all of the letters are a subtly different shape! It's not a massive issue- doesn't spoil it particularly; but you know- you just get attached to these things...
OK, I do concede that the type is different, but not horribly so. I'm a fairly traditional guy--I still haven't forgiven the Phoenix Suns for dumping their classic look back in the '90s and I'm pining for the day when it will return--but grousing about a slightly different typeface amounts to a lot of hair-splitting in this case.
Shouldn't there be a trailer for this movie by now? Or is there one that I'm not aware of?
This discussion ended a while ago, but I think Ford in the poster does look a bit older than he did in the first three. He's a little heavier, for one thing. But if that's what 65 looks like, boys, it looks pretty damn good from where I'm sitting. And with Spielberg at the helm and Ford in the hat, even at his age, I think he can put kid's butts in the seats. They make them louder and bloodier, but no one does action films better than Spielberg. Batman may have edged The Last Crusade for the number one spot at the box office way back when, but I'll put that up to novelty. The a second sequel to come in second is a more significant feat, if you ask me -- and I loved Burton's take on Batman. I always remember that Raiders is the only film my father ever willingly saw twice. He hated going to the movies. So I figure with Indiana Jones pictures, all bets are off.
I'm a little lost on the typographical debate, but will I let that stop me? No way ): the only sigificant difference I see is not in the letters themselves but in the background. In the earlier poster, the letters, which in typical Indy fashion are raised off the background, cast a shadow against the light background. That effect, of course, is lost against the darker background of the second example. There is a slight difference in the letters, probably the artist's way of compensating for the loss of shadow (maybe he or she felt the letters would seem too spaced out without the shadows), but it seems really, really minor to me.
... but I think Ford in the poster does look a bit older than he did in the first three. He's a little heavier, for one thing. But if that's what 65 looks like, boys, it looks pretty damn good from where I'm sitting.
... And me. I've always had a 'thing'' for Ford and he still looks mighty fine.
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edited January 2008
Here's the illustrated cover for the comic book movie adaptation. IMO, this should have been the movie poster. Now it could just be Photoshop-imposed but still...it just looks better...
Think so? B-)
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Batman: "The Hammer Of Justice isUNISEX!"
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Here's the illustrated cover for the comic book movie adaptation. IMO, this should have been the movie poster. Now it could just be Photoshop-imposed but still...it just looks better...
In my opinion, the only problem with the movie poster of Jones holding the bullwhip is the big thick white outline around Indy; it really makes it look like he was pasted in to the image. The image from the comics adaptation is nice but I prefer to see Indy in action rather than Shia.
BTW, there's a nice little piece on the new Blade Runner DVD with the artists who did the posters for the movie and DVD releases. They talk about how the importance of the movie poster has changed over the years and the impact tools like Photo Shop have had.
And speaking of Indiana Jones, here's a fairly in depth article on the film along with a few new pics courtesy of Vanity Fair online. Be warned, there are what some might consider pretty significant spoilers contained therein.
I like the comic cover, I am starting to warm up to this picture, Ford looks good, Karen Allen who has chemistry with Ford looks good, real action little CGI I like, now if they could just lose the kid. My greatest fear is LeBeouf gets more screen time then he deserves. The focus should be on Indiana Jones. Most franchise pictures start to lose me when they start adding parents, wacky sidekicks, girlfriends, etc. Few films do it well, I thought Connery as Ford's dad was a distraction. Having said that, I thought National Treasure Book of Secrets did a nice job of adding Helen Mirren as Cage's mother.
Here's the illustrated cover for the comic book movie adaptation. IMO, this should have been the movie poster. Now it could just be Photoshop-imposed but still...it just looks better...
Think so? B-)
Sorry, Rogue, I much prefer the first one
The comic cover is nice, but there's no matching Drew Struzan's movie poster art. Keep in mind this is only a teaser poster. I'm sure the release poster will knock our socks off.
That heavy white outline that TonyDP talks about is typical of Struzan's work, though often times the heavy outline is black. It's an effective tool to emphasize the focal point of the art and keep the other colors vibrant.
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edited January 2008
Well, I didn't expect it to be everyone's cup of tea. Good looking cover still. )
Shia, I will admit, is distracting to the overall design of it; showing Allen perhaps in peril in place of him, would have more warmed to it I think.
I really didn't want LeBeouf in this period but nothing can be done about it now... I know that he was added to draw in the younger generations not familiar with or could care less about Indy.
Still, just mere months away from such a nostalgic return to my teens and still no trailer... not even as much as a teaser... ?:)
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Batman: "The Hammer Of Justice isUNISEX!"
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Most franchise pictures start to lose me when they start adding parents, wacky sidekicks, girlfriends, etc. Few films do it well, I thought Connery as Ford's dad was a distraction.
Really? I'm surprised. I agree that sidekicks can seriously backfire, and would offer Temple of Doom's plucky prepubescent kid and helpless "girl" singer as cases in point: useless stock characters that brought nothing to the party. But sidekicks are nothing new in Indy movies, which probably accounts for LaBoeuf's presence as much as anything. Dr. Jones never solos; there's always someone on the adventure with him. In Raiders, it was Marion. And I thought the idea for the sidekick and the casting in Last Crusade was a stroke of genius. Who would have guessed Indy would take along his old man? And doesn't it seem fitting that the old man would be Sean Connery? I can't think of another actor who could play a tweedy college professor with bit of "action hero" in him than Connery. That bit where Connery got the girl before Ford would have seemed both unbelievable and a little creepy with anyone else in the role. I was disappointed when Sir Sean closed the door on returning. But to each his own, as they say.
By the way, I love the way Cate Blanchett looks as Indy's Soviet nemesis. She's such a wonderful actress. I haven't really been paying attention to the movie and didn't realize she was in it until now, so that was good to see. John Hurt and Jim Broadbent are good news, too.
And speaking of Indiana Jones, here's a fairly in depth article on the film along with a few new pics courtesy of Vanity Fair online. Be warned, there are what some might consider pretty significant spoilers contained therein.
the saucermen from Mars-style ideas weren't quite as dead as we thought. Still, I don't mind- it does fit with the period, and runways-of-the-Gods style stuff with Aztec civillisations and all that is very Indy. Works for me.
Here's the illustrated cover for the comic book movie adaptation. IMO, this should have been the movie poster. Now it could just be Photoshop-imposed but still...it just looks better...
Think so? B-)
Nah- running a photoshop filter over a couple of photographs will never beat a proper illustration when it comes to Indy; they're doing this film old-school style.
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And speaking of Indiana Jones, here's a fairly in depth article on the film along with a few new pics courtesy of Vanity Fair online. Be warned, there are what some might consider pretty significant spoilers contained therein.
There's a fun little video posted on the official site, exploring the set design of Indy's home. There are no spoilers, other than the fact that there's most likely going to be a scene that takes place there...
There's a couple of new articles online on Crystal Skull. The first, from IGN, reports that the movie is locked, John Williams is writing the score, and the tone of the film will be similar to Last Crusade.
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I'm not convinced that's a given: the Indy movies are occasionally screened as a series at primetime by the BBC here and they still get very good ratings. I'd be amazed if kids weren't aware of Indy. And that logic says that the Star Wars movies shouldn't have done any business either..
Now, to get back to the poster- what's the redesigned Indiana Jones logo about? I'm rather of the mind 'if it ain't broke...' meself!
How's it been redesigned? Looks to be in pretty much the same razzmatazz typeface to me. The real question is, howcum in the poster Indy doesn't look like he's aged since Raiders?
Nope- it's a different font; or rather a new cut of the old one. Compare and contrast:
Yeah exactly. I'm much less worried about this than the Star Wars prequels- Spielberg does rather know what he's doing behind a movie camera! He's phoned in stuff like this before (Lost World for example), but I think it's fair to say that his heart's in this one. Perhaps it won't rival the original three, but it's sure to be a decent and very watchable film, and very good fun.
And it'll knock Young Indy out of the water! What were they thinking of? Oh yeah; George. 8-)
To echo what H.B. said though, that does look more like 1980s Indy than it does present day Indy. Seems that they were careful not to make him look the least bit gereatric at all.
Batman: "The Hammer Of Justice is UNISEX!"
-Batman: The Brave & The Bold -
Plus all of the letters are a subtly different shape! It's not a massive issue- doesn't spoil it particularly; but you know- you just get attached to these things...
Hence me saying 'It's not a massive issue- doesn't spoil it particularly'. It's an internet forum! What do you expect us to do?
SPOILER ALERT! I'm only posting the link and not the article due to some minor details on the plot.
http://www.usatoday.com/life/movies/news/2007-12-09-indiana-jones_N.htm
This discussion ended a while ago, but I think Ford in the poster does look a bit older than he did in the first three. He's a little heavier, for one thing. But if that's what 65 looks like, boys, it looks pretty damn good from where I'm sitting. And with Spielberg at the helm and Ford in the hat, even at his age, I think he can put kid's butts in the seats. They make them louder and bloodier, but no one does action films better than Spielberg. Batman may have edged The Last Crusade for the number one spot at the box office way back when, but I'll put that up to novelty. The a second sequel to come in second is a more significant feat, if you ask me -- and I loved Burton's take on Batman. I always remember that Raiders is the only film my father ever willingly saw twice. He hated going to the movies. So I figure with Indiana Jones pictures, all bets are off.
I'm a little lost on the typographical debate, but will I let that stop me? No way
... And me. I've always had a 'thing'' for Ford and he still looks mighty fine.
Think so? B-)
Batman: "The Hammer Of Justice is UNISEX!"
-Batman: The Brave & The Bold -
In my opinion, the only problem with the movie poster of Jones holding the bullwhip is the big thick white outline around Indy; it really makes it look like he was pasted in to the image. The image from the comics adaptation is nice but I prefer to see Indy in action rather than Shia.
BTW, there's a nice little piece on the new Blade Runner DVD with the artists who did the posters for the movie and DVD releases. They talk about how the importance of the movie poster has changed over the years and the impact tools like Photo Shop have had.
And speaking of Indiana Jones, here's a fairly in depth article on the film along with a few new pics courtesy of Vanity Fair online. Be warned, there are what some might consider pretty significant spoilers contained therein.
http://www.vanityfair.com/culture/features/2008/02/indianajones200802
That heavy white outline that TonyDP talks about is typical of Struzan's work, though often times the heavy outline is black. It's an effective tool to emphasize the focal point of the art and keep the other colors vibrant.
Shia, I will admit, is distracting to the overall design of it; showing Allen perhaps in peril in place of him, would have more warmed to it I think.
I really didn't want LeBeouf in this period but nothing can be done about it now... I know that he was added to draw in the younger generations not familiar with or could care less about Indy.
Still, just mere months away from such a nostalgic return to my teens and still no trailer... not even as much as a teaser... ?:)
Batman: "The Hammer Of Justice is UNISEX!"
-Batman: The Brave & The Bold -
Really? I'm surprised. I agree that sidekicks can seriously backfire, and would offer Temple of Doom's plucky prepubescent kid and helpless "girl" singer as cases in point: useless stock characters that brought nothing to the party. But sidekicks are nothing new in Indy movies, which probably accounts for LaBoeuf's presence as much as anything. Dr. Jones never solos; there's always someone on the adventure with him. In Raiders, it was Marion. And I thought the idea for the sidekick and the casting in Last Crusade was a stroke of genius. Who would have guessed Indy would take along his old man? And doesn't it seem fitting that the old man would be Sean Connery? I can't think of another actor who could play a tweedy college professor with bit of "action hero" in him than Connery. That bit where Connery got the girl before Ford would have seemed both unbelievable and a little creepy with anyone else in the role. I was disappointed when Sir Sean closed the door on returning. But to each his own, as they say.
By the way, I love the way Cate Blanchett looks as Indy's Soviet nemesis. She's such a wonderful actress. I haven't really been paying attention to the movie and didn't realize she was in it until now, so that was good to see. John Hurt and Jim Broadbent are good news, too.
Yes indeed; looks like
Nah- running a photoshop filter over a couple of photographs will never beat a proper illustration when it comes to Indy; they're doing this film old-school style.
Nice little mention of Rosa Klebb and From Russia With Love.
http://www.indianajones.com/site/index.html
http://movies.ign.com/articles/848/848546p1.html
There's also an article on Empire Online with a new photo of Indy holding what looks like a rocket launcher.
http://www.empireonline.com/news/story.asp?NID=21881
http://www.comingsoon.net/news/movienews.php?id=41519
Oh yes- that looks about right. He looks even more like Indy in that one somehow.
For some reason I can't get this image out of my head. . .