I've found cnb
scottmu65
Carlisle, Cumbria, UKPosts: 402MI6 Agent
Hey Guys,
(just to clarify i am a CRAIG SUPPORTOR)
over the past few weeks it has been to my nolwedge that the anti-daniel craig website craignotbond.com has vanished but ive just stubled upon this
(Edit: Let's not even give them diverted traffic)
sorry if this has already been pointed out but i thought i should post and let people know tht i belive the people behind craignotbond.com have actually just changed their address not shut down the site.
(just to clarify i am a CRAIG SUPPORTOR)
over the past few weeks it has been to my nolwedge that the anti-daniel craig website craignotbond.com has vanished but ive just stubled upon this
(Edit: Let's not even give them diverted traffic)
sorry if this has already been pointed out but i thought i should post and let people know tht i belive the people behind craignotbond.com have actually just changed their address not shut down the site.
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Comments
"Better make that two."
I'd hardly call her teenage exuberance of her crush on Daniel Craig a review. That comment was insulting and disrespectful to the other actors who've made her millions. It's just as ridiculous to me as anything said on CraigNotBond. CBn is just as extreme in their "sucking up" as CNB is in trashing Craig.
Erm.. we're talking about the Sun calling Craig 'The Best Bond Since Connery'. But feel free to twist this into another 'Babs is the Daughter of Satan' thing. Oh hang on; would I be disrespecting Satan if I said that? Or Saint Cubby?
As for saying something is the best = disrespect to others; that's just a nonsense. I can't even be bothered to argue against it.
"erm" all you want.
Good to know your embargo on sarcasm still hasn't been lifted. You are such a pedantic ass. Or is it arse?
Just to clarify: you said I was wrong to call it a review ('I'd hardly call it a review'). When I pointed out that I was talking about the 'Sun' review as Ben mentioned upthread -not Broccoli's statement as you thought I was- you feel you have to call me pedantic and a load of other names. It's not being pedantic; it's simply carrying on a conversation about the same subject it started on.
I also think it rather hard to describe CBn as 'extreme'; to compare CBn to CNB is regrettable. In my experience there exists a wide range of opinions on the former site on a variety of issues (including Daniel Craig), just like AJB.
If CNB has re-surfaced the best strategy is probably just to ignore it, although (worryingly) the media did pick up on it last time.
Well they're all arriving now, and they ain't looking much different. And The Sun has been pretty good to CR; are you thinking of the Mirror?
Let's not pretend that Mo didn't arrive in this thread being unpleasant about Broccolli, saying I was wrong to call it review etc. Hardly starting off on a polite tack. I didn't hide the fact I knew what she MEANT; that's why I was talking about Babs too, after Mo brought it up.
However, I believe that Craig was not the best choice to play Bond but rather he should've been chosen to play a Bond villain. (In my opinion, he'd be way better at the latter after seeing some of his films).
Could it not be that it's a website full of Bond Fans (that's short for fanatic by the way) who are excited about the new Bond film? Why wouldn't a Bond fansite be excited about the new Bond film?
They wish. No, as much as they would love you to think that, the only concern EON has about them is like all Bond sites, they refrain from using any copyrighted materials. For trying so hard to be the favorite child, it's actually backfired, they seem to get their hands slapped more than anyone.
In what way?
So people can say they hate the film, but if they are really enthusiastic about it they have to be payed off by EON? It goes both ways, you know, if one group of people passionately hate the idea of CR, why is it so implausible that another group passionately love the idea?
Stop bending things in your favor. People are allowed to like Craig without being payed to do it.
Well, Eye, I must say that I consider that site to be worse than people say--far, far worse.
Also (and this isn't directed at you in particular, Eye, but to some others who are making this comparison), putting CNB on a par with CBn isn't so much comparing apples to oranges but comparing apples to dirty bombs. Maybe CBn does have a pro-EON agenda--I really don't know, because I haven't been on the site in ages (mod duties and a busy life away from the computer pretty well restrict me to AJB)--but the people there are fundamentally James Bond fans. If you don't like Craig and if you plan to boycott CR, you can still go to CommanderBond and talk about your favorite 007, opine about the novels, or write a fanfic story.
But what else can you do at CNB other than read stories that bash and trash Craig and encourage people to stay away from the film? It's simply an exercise in nastiness and negativity that exemplifies the worst the Net has to offer.
Beyond its status as the Black Hole of Bond sites, CNB is also contemptable in its phoniness and its downright fraudulence. I might have some respect for it if I thought that true Bond fans were behind its creation; but its creator is a schoolgirl who has posted to the Net her gushing fantasies not about James Bond, but about Pierce Brosnan AS James Bond. There is no real knowledge of Bond history on that site, no sense that the people behind CNB truly understand who and what Bond is. There is only childish anger and vindictiveness because Brosnan is not playing Bond in CR, and because the girly-girl in charge thinks that Craig isn't as pretty.
Then there's the "fan art." As many of you know, one of CNB's masterminds used to be here, but everyone got so tired of his photoshopping pictures of Craig that we finally gave him the boot (after several warnings, by the way). To be fair, some of the pictures they run ARE funny, but they are also massively unfair in that the CNBers tend to use stills and photos of Craig looking his worst and to present them as what Craig looks like all the time. Again, this is nothing short of juvenile, like schoolchildren drawing nasty pictures of a despised teacher.
If you're still with me (I know, this has turned into a novel), what I find most nauseating about CNB is its spin--or, to put it less politely, its lying. Go to the site and you will see that they are still presenting a plagiarized and false negative review of CR as the first "unbiased" review of the movie. If they had any integrity, they'd take it down. Colin Salmon's grousing that he should have been given a shot to play Bond is trumpeted as evidence that EON is a racist organization. They claim that there is no buzz about CR (really?). The slightest offhand comment from an actor or one of the filmmakers is magnified and presented as proof positive that CR will be a huge, stinking disaster. A lot of positive reviews have been coming out, but I have the feeling none of them will appear on CNB, while every negative one (and there will be those) will be plastered all over the site as validation of CNB's hate.
Last of all, I feel the CNB bunch are a pack of miserable COWARDS. (I hope and pray one of them is reading this, because I want them to note that word.) Where are their forums? Where do they give people a chance to talk back? They don't have the guts to allow their opinions to be challenged in the same public forum they have claimed, and God help you if you send someone there an e-mail, because you will receive personal abuse and insults in return.
So say what you will about CommanderBond, but at its worst it's miles above CraigNotBond at its best.
Thanks for reading.
True, it's a false comparison. I think a truer comparison would be the pro-Craig petition which described those who dislike Craig as stupid.
The irony about this is that if CNB were sincere about this, and truly believed that EON is racist, then they should have no problem with a Bond who was not only black but perhaps gay. Afterall, it would be homophobic (which CNB are BTW) to not have Bond be gay.
Funny you should mention that- on MI6 there's a member called Craig's_Agent (always writing boringly anti-Craig stuff) who was invited to the press screening by ITN so that he and other CnBers could be interviewed afterwards to see if they had changed their minds. Although he had the courage to bang on about how awful Craig is on the net he admitted he didn't want to be seen on telly doing it. The site's owner called him a coward and banned him from the forums today. Beautiful.
http://www.mi6forums.com/viewtopic.php?t=29487&start=60
That is fairer, but only because they call the CnB lot morons. I don't there's anything as inherently bad in being positive about someone as there is in badmouthing and insulting them before they've had a chance to prove themselves.
Saying that, although I don't agree with any personal insults on a forum, I do find it hard not to agree the CnB lot are morons!
Who cares if they are biased towards Craig and EON? At least they have a forum for people to express their views, which is more than CnB allows.
Have you not read the latest reviews? The media are LOVING the new Bond. And I bet you this is just the beginning. Craig-bashing is so yesterday's news. Get with the programme. The tide turned for Craig months ago. Didn't you hear....?
Excuse me... but might I have a slightly different opinion? Pretty please...
I think it was sort of the straw that broke the camel's back. If a member accepts that all of the nasty noise he's been making isn't actually something he feels passionately enough to put his face behind, then what's the point of having his unpleasantness crowd up the forum and upset people if he doesn't even have the courage of his convictions? It's tantamount to lying. Just have a look at the reaction to his banning- that should give an idea.
(1) About the guy not wanting to appear on television, there are some statistics I remember reading about that most people fear death more than public speaking. In short of investigating the forum bread crumbs at MI6, I'd personally give anyone consideration about not wanting to make a public appearance, without question. Standing by your opinions or convictions is not a matter of proving how much guts you have in that sense...which to me is no different than being taunted by a bully to play chicken with a locomotive.
(2) I wonder what blueman thinks about this since he was convinced that MI6 had a prevalent anti-Craig agenda.
I think there's a point where a person is such an arse that a little unjust action against them is quite acceptable. Some of those at CnB deserve to be in Bond's place during the carpet beater torture.
When I think of CnB now, I think of around March time this year. Inevitably, the little cowards have been completely overshadowed by the release of the film, which sounds a great one at that. Quite how they hoped to combat Sony, one of the world's hugest companies, I have no idea. But they failed. Yay.
Unjust action...is justifiable? ?:) Returning a wrong for another wrong makes you no different from than the other person. I guess from your perspective and it helps whatever cause you think you have, it suddenly becomes right.
You're as arrogant and sanctimonious as ever, I'll give you that.
Because that site garnered tons of attention when it came online, and because the media seemed to feel that CNB spoke for all Bond fans on the Internet. I think I can pretty well speak for the staff when I say that we've worked very hard to make AJB a classy and fair-minded place to talk about Bond; so I don't enjoy being associated with a bunch of shrieking children. That's why.