World Record For Casino Royale
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Bond film car stunt is world record
http://uk.news.yahoo.com/07112006/344/bond-film-car-stunt-world-record.html
New Bond film Casino Royale has been awarded a Guinness World Record - for the most cannon rolls in a car.
The scene, which features in the movie, is performed by stunt double Adam Kirley in the Bond Aston Martin.
The car flipped and rolled seven times after a nitrogen cannon was used to propel the vehicle through the air.
It beat the previous record of six rolls performed by a Top Gear stunt man last year.
Casino Royale's stunt co-ordinator Gary Powell, who designed the manoeuvre for the film, featuring Daniel Craig as the new 007, said: "We rehearsed the stunt several times driving test cars, which were a similar weight to the Aston Martin, at 80mph towards a 10in ramp.
"That worked very well, causing the cars to flip over at least five times in rehearsal.
"But we knew due to the design and suspension of the Aston Martin DBS, it would probably level itself out in mid-air.
"When we came to filming the stunt on the night, as suspected, the Aston Martin DBS levelled itself out in mid-air refusing to flip over.
"Adam, the stunt driver, had to drive the cannon fitted Aston at high speed and hit the release at exactly the right moment, resulting in the record breaking stunt."
He added: "We are thrilled to have broken the Guinness World Record."
http://uk.news.yahoo.com/07112006/344/bond-film-car-stunt-world-record.html
New Bond film Casino Royale has been awarded a Guinness World Record - for the most cannon rolls in a car.
The scene, which features in the movie, is performed by stunt double Adam Kirley in the Bond Aston Martin.
The car flipped and rolled seven times after a nitrogen cannon was used to propel the vehicle through the air.
It beat the previous record of six rolls performed by a Top Gear stunt man last year.
Casino Royale's stunt co-ordinator Gary Powell, who designed the manoeuvre for the film, featuring Daniel Craig as the new 007, said: "We rehearsed the stunt several times driving test cars, which were a similar weight to the Aston Martin, at 80mph towards a 10in ramp.
"That worked very well, causing the cars to flip over at least five times in rehearsal.
"But we knew due to the design and suspension of the Aston Martin DBS, it would probably level itself out in mid-air.
"When we came to filming the stunt on the night, as suspected, the Aston Martin DBS levelled itself out in mid-air refusing to flip over.
"Adam, the stunt driver, had to drive the cannon fitted Aston at high speed and hit the release at exactly the right moment, resulting in the record breaking stunt."
He added: "We are thrilled to have broken the Guinness World Record."
Comments
An expensive record---I once saw a photo of the three wrecked DBS prototypes, lined up in a row---but well worth-while, I think...pretty f*****g cool, as the actor in question might say B-)
"I am not an entrant in the Shakespeare Stakes." - Ian Fleming
"Screw 'em." - Daniel Craig, The Best James Bond EverTM
We still haven't seen the entire sequence, but that's how I'd show it; gives more dynamic movement to the car in the split-second before Bond loses control of the machine.
Or, perhaps I'm all wet, and it just a gaffe, like the Mach I bit in DAF...either way, it looks fantastic.
"I am not an entrant in the Shakespeare Stakes." - Ian Fleming
"Screw 'em." - Daniel Craig, The Best James Bond EverTM
I suspect that something from the film has been edited out of the trailer. I can't believe they would make another DAF style blooper.
Presumably his correction in trying to stop the car going off the road (i.e. turning back to the left again) causes it to flip. I can't see a problem.
http://www.ropeofsilicon.com/media/player.php?id=3894
@merseytart
I read that the stunt driver was the same guy who did the two-wheeled stunt in DAF, whose twin brother coincidentally is the same editor for DAF and CR
I think you're right, emtiem. It's a swerve, and the physics seem normal enough to me. An experienced racecar driver would have barely moved the wheel first right, then left, to avoid Vesper and stay on the road. And the old Bond, of course, would have been an expert driver, so this never would have happened. But Craig's Bond is more like the rest of us, and, surprised by Vesper's body in the middle of the road, instinctively and in something of a panic turns too hard to the right, then corrects to the left (not seen onscreen) but the car keeps traveling rightward and the left wheels leave the ground.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scandinavian_flick
Common rally driving technique, turning suddenly in the opposite direction destabilizes the car enabling a fast 4-wheel-drift style turn.
I doubt whether that was meant, but I can of worse continuity
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QLUzgOY_kpM
Bond's car would have just slid in real life, as the stunt guys say, but there's no continuity problem there between shots- just a slight physics issue, which in a lesser car would have produced the desired effect.
Why isn't Bond's correction to the left shown onscreen? (Well, at least in the full trailer it isn't). All you see is Bond steering violently to the right to avoid Vesper. The Aston passes her on the right, then you get a different camera angle showing the Aston rolling over Vesper's left hand side.
By not showing Bond's correction to the left what you see onscreen does not appear to add up.
It makes perfect sense- he steers one way, the car follows and then we see him, from outside the car, steer the car to the left, causing it to flip. Did you need to see a close up of Sean Connery turning the DB5's wheel to understand how it was going round corners?
I have just looked at the trailer again, much more closely than before. The left hand wheels of the Aston are in the air within a fraction of a second of the time it has passed Vesper. And importantly, something I hadn't noticed before. The Aston, although still to the right of Vesper is actually aiming for her left. It all makes more sense to me now.
It all happens so fast it's a bit too much for my old brain to cope with. Regardless, it's a great action scene and I am really looking forward to seeing it on the big screen next weekend.
Might be a bit better to watch than the quickly edited trailer.
Sorry about the delay, I am on dial-up.
It is much better. There's a small but crucial bit that was not included in the full trailer. I am much happier now. Thanks, emtiem.
Wouldn't such a maneuver at too great a speed cause the average car's rearend to spin out and the car go into a roll?
(I say "average" car, because the stunt people apparently couldn't get the Aston Martin to roll on its own in the first place)
I'll second that. Besides, if the seen was shot with a real car driven by real stuntmen, the car's behavior can't help but be correct, right?
Glad you liked the Aston roll, Hope you all like how the film turns out i know i did!
Adam
Blimey- hello Adam! Well done on that- amazing feat. Saw you on the documentary last night and it did look fantastic. Was it at all worrying when the stunt went wrong? Looked a bit hairy what with the sliding out of control towards people!
Because it's a trailer, watching the documentary mentioned above (Becoming Bond) they show a bit more of it and the camera changes to watch Bond come down after missing Vesper (from a position just in front of Vesper (i.e. looking down the road)), then you see the car coming down on to four wheels and rolling to the left over the grass.
Again it will depend how it's edited into the film, but I don't think anyone has anything to worry about with regards to continuity!
There are no more worries for me regarding continuity. emtiem kindly provided a link which showed the Aston Martin crash in more detail. A small but crucial bit had been edited out of the full trailer. The crash is also featured in a wonderful programme called 'James Bond - For Real'. It shows the preparation, the attention to detail, and the crash in all of it's glory.