Bond titles crowbarred into the script

One of the things I always look out for in the Bonds is how they attempt to get the film's title into the script or dialogue somehow, and the results seem to vary in their effectiveness:

"For your eyes only, darling" by Melina at the end of FYEO was acceptable enough, since she was about to skinnydipping with Bond, though like mostl people I was moer amused by the Mrs Thatcher sequence.

"You only live twice, Mr Bond!" again was OK when uttered by Blofeld in YOLT, though like the above it did feel a bit unnatural. It made sebse because Bond had somehow faked his own death in the teaser.

"So you live to die another day" - Bond to Graves/Moon in DAD. At least it makes some sense, since Moon did live another day when he inexplicably survived the hovercraft crash in the teaser (though his father was being a bit presumptative when he takes one look at the actually not too spectacular crash and declares his son dead on the spot). This one was stretching things a little.

"That's my little octopussy" - always makes me laugh, and it's kinky without being illogical.

"You could have had the world" - Elektra
"The World is not enough" - Bond
"Foolish sentiment" - E
"Family motto" - JB
It was nice to find some way of using the rather unsual title, as well as having a rare bit of continuity (with OHMSS), and though it did sound a bit forced and illogical, the pun at the end made it acceptable.

"Whoever she was, I must have scared the living daylights out of her" - sounds OK in principle but I think this was the one line that Dalton delivered poorly, it just sounded wrong and unconvincing, more than the dialogue alone would warrant.

"Ssaaayyy Live and Let die" - in the cabaret act - I love this scene, it was so well done, and nice to hear an alternative version than the McCartney song. Unsual way of incorporating the film title, and certainly a memorable moment.

Then there's the all time worst, perhaps not only the worst "title crowbar attempt" in Bond, but also the worst dialogue exchange in the history of the cinema (or spoken language):

Zorin and MayDay flying over SF Bay in the blimp, looking out over the Golden Gate:
MD: (breathlessly) "Wow! What a view!"
MZ: (leering over he shoulder" "...to a Kill!"

I smile every tiem I think of that, what were they thinking???
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  • BarbelBarbel ScotlandPosts: 37,866Chief of Staff
    Two of my favourites:

    M to the gathered 00 agents: "Code name... Thunderball."

    Scaramanga just after he blows up Bond's plane:
    "You must admit, Mr Bond, I am now undeniably The Man With The Golden Gun."
  • emtiememtiem SurreyPosts: 5,948MI6 Agent
    "Whoever she was, I must have scared the living daylights out of her" - sounds OK in principle but I think this was the one line that Dalton delivered poorly, it just sounded wrong and unconvincing, more than the dialogue alone would warrant.

    Probably the only one I'll let them off with as it's from the book.
    Then there's the all time worst, perhaps not only the worst "title crowbar attempt" in Bond, but also the worst dialogue exchange in the history of the cinema (or spoken language):

    Zorin and MayDay flying over SF Bay in the blimp, looking out over the Golden Gate:
    MD: (breathlessly) "Wow! What a view!"
    MZ: (leering over he shoulder" "...to a Kill!"

    I smile every tiem I think of that, what were they thinking???

    Haha! :D Yes; I'll give you that. I like to think that as their laughter faded Mayday slowly thought about what Zorin had said

    MD: "Er... what?"
    MZ: "Shush- it's the title! Roger bet me £50 I couldn't fit it in."
  • darenhatdarenhat The Old PuebloPosts: 2,029Quartermasters
    "Whoever she was, I must have scared the living daylights out of her" - sounds OK in principle but I think this was the one line that Dalton delivered poorly, it just sounded wrong and unconvincing, more than the dialogue alone would warrant.

    I actually felt this line was delivered excellently. Since the scene (and the line) were picked up directly from Fleming, it was a bit of a payoff to any literary Bond fan. I thought it would have been better line to introduce the title sequence, but that would have meant moving the sniper scene to the PTS which, by itself, isn't really PTS material.

    Agreed, the AVTAK title was a stretch. It merely reminded me that, other than the French setting, EON was pretty much scraping at that point.
  • heartbroken_mr_draxheartbroken_mr_drax New Zealand Posts: 2,073MI6 Agent
    Remember that they are only 'crowbarred' into the script because they are the titles and we expect them to be heard or have relation to the story.

    We would be saying the exact same thing if "I expect you to die!" was the name of Goldfinger, but its just a line.

    But I believe that TWINE has the best one. Its good continuity and yes the worst is AVTAK i mean come on lol
    1. TWINE 2. FYEO 3. MR 4. TLD 5. TSWLM 6. OHMSS 7. DN 8. OP 9. AVTAK 10. TMWTGG 11. QoS 12. GE 13. CR 14. TB 15. FRWL 16. TND 17. LTK 18. GF 19. SF 20. LaLD 21. YOLT 22. NTTD 23. DAD 24. DAF. 25. SP

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  • JennyFlexFanJennyFlexFan Posts: 1,497MI6 Agent
    Yes, even I, the Saint of AVTAK, agree that it was a bit (only a BIT) of a stretch to put that line in there. Because Zorin is a psychotic experiment, I doubt that he's the most witty man in the world. It's just steroid baby humor in that segment.

    Still, "Licence to Kill"'s general title made it hard to actually find a clever way to insert it into the script.
  • BarbelBarbel ScotlandPosts: 37,866Chief of Staff
    "Licence to Kill"'s general title made it hard to actually find a clever way to insert it into the script.

    The way M says the line "Effective immediately, your licence to kill is revoked" seems perfectly natural to me- and it encompasses the film's original title as well.
  • Sir Hillary BraySir Hillary Bray College of ArmsPosts: 2,174MI6 Agent
    Good topic, crawfordboon. I agree the AVTAK instance is horrible. Graves's line in DAD is pretty close, though.

    I was also disappointed in the way it was done in TWINE. Given that it was Bond's family motto, they could have done it in a better way -- perhaps as a way to have Bond understand Elektra's complicated family (which mixes ambition and treachery). Instead, Bond uses it as a wisecrack in a situation that doesn't call for one.

    "Her Majesty's Secret Service" is said twice in OHMSS, with mixed results. I love when Draco says it, slightly sarcastically when telling Bond he wouldn't share Blofeld's whereabouts with the British government. Less successful is when Bond says "Her Majesty's secret service is still my job" to Tracy -- it just seems a little unnatural.

    Finally, one of my favorites is in FRWL when Bond writes on the photo of Tatiana. I especially love how he first writes "With Love" and then writes "From Russia" above it. Very cool.
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  • jetsetwillyjetsetwilly Liverpool, UKPosts: 1,048MI6 Agent
    I have a problem with DAD, because it's filmed in a quite isolated way; there's silence beforehand, then Bond appears from behind the case, says his line, and there's a pause afterwards. It feels separate from the scene.

    The Living Daylights always makes me laugh; I half expect Timothy Dalton to turn to the camera and say, "You see? It makes sense now!"

    And AVTAK isn't just clumsy. It's nonsensical. It means absolutely nothing, and it's the single most ridiculous piece of dialogue in the series (yes, even more ridiculous than the General pointing at Denise Richards and saying "That's our IDA physicist."). It's not helped by May Day's unconvincing "wow!" at the start of it - Grace Jones strikes me as the kind of woman who would not be easily impressed.
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  • Dan SameDan Same Victoria, AustraliaPosts: 6,054MI6 Agent
    I think it's clever how the screenwriters insert titles like DN, GF and OP into the script. :D

    Seriously, IMO, the two worst example of this were AVTAK and DAD. AVTAK was simply horrible, while watching Brosnan say 'So you lived to die another day' in DAD makes me wish that the word die will never again appear in a James Bond title. Although Brosnan handles himself well, I also get the sense that perhaps he would have preferred not to have said that line. I can't blame him as I consider it to be among the worst of the lines in the film. There is no specific reason other than that it doesn't really make much sense, is an obvious ploy to insert the title into the film and is simply incredibly stupid.
    "He’s a man way out there in the blue, riding on a smile and a shoeshine. And when they start not smiling back—that’s an earthquake. and then you get yourself a couple of spots on your hat, and you’re finished. Nobody dast blame this man. A salesman is got to dream, boy. It comes with the territory." Death of a Salesman
  • Klaus HergescheimerKlaus Hergescheimer Posts: 332MI6 Agent
    IMO, unless the title reflects the name of a character, a critical tangible object, a locale, or the subject of a mission, it should not be uttered or mentioned once in the movie. There was no reason for the "For Your Eyes Only" tag to be placed on the mission statement or for the AVTAK, TLD, TWINE, or DAD to be stuffed into the movie in akward ways. The one time that a title was stuffed into a movie effectively, I felt, was YOLT, which provided a plausible opportunity.

    I'm so glad that TB, LALD, TSWLM, and TND didn't try to do this. Can you imagine how awful this would have been?
  • jetsetwillyjetsetwilly Liverpool, UKPosts: 1,048MI6 Agent
    I'm so glad that TB, LALD, TSWLM, and TND didn't try to do this. Can you imagine how awful this would have been?

    It's especially strange since Fleming himself has Bond say "live and let die" in the novel. And yes, it's just as clunky as you would imagine it would be.
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  • 742617000027742617000027 Posts: 25MI6 Agent
    Does somebody say Tomorrow Never Dies?
    I can picture it but I'm not too sure it happens now :)).
  • heartbroken_mr_draxheartbroken_mr_drax New Zealand Posts: 2,073MI6 Agent
    No nobody does, the closest is Carvers paper called Tomorrow
    1. TWINE 2. FYEO 3. MR 4. TLD 5. TSWLM 6. OHMSS 7. DN 8. OP 9. AVTAK 10. TMWTGG 11. QoS 12. GE 13. CR 14. TB 15. FRWL 16. TND 17. LTK 18. GF 19. SF 20. LaLD 21. YOLT 22. NTTD 23. DAD 24. DAF. 25. SP

    "Better make that two."
  • Dan SameDan Same Victoria, AustraliaPosts: 6,054MI6 Agent
    edited November 2006
    There was no reason for the "For Your Eyes Only" tag to be placed on the mission statement
    I have no problem with that. The title doesn't have a huge connection to the film and the way the filmmakers inserted it helped provide whatever connection it had.

    It is also not unusual for confidential documents to feature the words For Your Eyes Only.
    "He’s a man way out there in the blue, riding on a smile and a shoeshine. And when they start not smiling back—that’s an earthquake. and then you get yourself a couple of spots on your hat, and you’re finished. Nobody dast blame this man. A salesman is got to dream, boy. It comes with the territory." Death of a Salesman
  • Dan SameDan Same Victoria, AustraliaPosts: 6,054MI6 Agent
    edited November 2006
    I would like to defend the insertion of the title into TWINE. ;)

    I don' think that the film received the title solely due to it being Bond's family motto. I think that a major reason for the film being named TWINE is that as well as referring to Bond's family motto, it also refers to his recognition that there are some things that he's fighting for which are more important than his own pleasure. Bond's killing of Electra, a woman who could have made him extremely happy, reflects this. Therefore regarding the exchange Bond has with Electra in which he mentions the title, I think it shows that Bond believes that there are certain values which are more important than even his own happiness. These values which may be honour, loyalty, duty and a sense of justice, surpass the things that Electra can offer him, 'the world,' and so the world is not enough. A great title IMO and a brilliant way of inserting it into the film.
    "He’s a man way out there in the blue, riding on a smile and a shoeshine. And when they start not smiling back—that’s an earthquake. and then you get yourself a couple of spots on your hat, and you’re finished. Nobody dast blame this man. A salesman is got to dream, boy. It comes with the territory." Death of a Salesman
  • TonyDPTonyDP Inside the MonolithPosts: 4,307MI6 Agent
    edited November 2006
    Does somebody say Tomorrow Never Dies?
    I can picture it but I'm not too sure it happens now :)).

    Nobody said that in the movie. And, to the best of my recollection "Diamonds Are Forever" and "The Spy Who Loved Me" are never uttered in their respective movies either; although Gustav Graves did say "Diamonds Are For Everyone" in DAD, most likely a thinly veiled reference to the earlier film (not to mention the fact that he basically ripped off Blofeld's scam from that movie as well).
  • rennervisionrennervision Posts: 107MI6 Agent
    The first time I heard May Day and Zorin mention the title of the movie, it was a true head scratching moment for me as I tried for several minutes to decipher the grammar. (I was sure it made sense, but my brain couldn't figure it out - kind of like a complicated word puzzle.)

    The best thing about the title "A View to a Kill" is that it was actually changed from the Fleming version, which was "From a View to a Kill." So they dropped the "From" to make that dialogue sound more natural. :))
  • Dan SameDan Same Victoria, AustraliaPosts: 6,054MI6 Agent
    TonyDP wrote:
    (not to mention the fact that he basically ripped off Blofeld's scam from that movie as well)
    Blofeld's scam in DAF wasn't the only thing DAD ripped off. ;)
    "He’s a man way out there in the blue, riding on a smile and a shoeshine. And when they start not smiling back—that’s an earthquake. and then you get yourself a couple of spots on your hat, and you’re finished. Nobody dast blame this man. A salesman is got to dream, boy. It comes with the territory." Death of a Salesman
  • DutchJamesBondFanDutchJamesBondFan the NetherlandsPosts: 414MI6 Agent
    I was searching trough the old topics, sad that this one is dead.
    After figuring out what Quantum of Solace means, I do like it, still not great.
    I think Skyfall is fine, not especially good. The how they put it in the wordgame at the
    underground MI6 felt too obtrusive IMO.
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  • MooseWithFleasMooseWithFleas Philadelphia, PAPosts: 754MI6 Agent
    I've always loved the absurdity of the AVTAK dialogue to get the title in. So bad but I can't help but love it. How many times I've been in the car by myself either on a roadtrip or just driving and see a sunset, view, or something and say to myself "wow, what a view!" ... "To a Kill" and nodded my head smiling like a nut.
  • Absolutely_CartAbsolutely_Cart NJ/NYC, United StatesPosts: 1,740MI6 Agent
    At least Quantum of Solace had the honesty to not shoehorn it in.

    AVTAK's title was so forced. That's when you know you've strayed so far from Fleming.

    Also, naming Craig's residence Skyfall was a little bit of a stretch (but I'm not saying that's a bad thing)

    I think in TLD, they said the title twice to give it extra emphasis.

    In TSWLM, Carly Simon kinda shoehorns it in.
  • AlphaOmegaSinAlphaOmegaSin EnglandPosts: 10,926MI6 Agent
    edited June 2015
    I agree, Zorin and May Days shared Dialouge of referencing AVTAK does feel like it was rushed into the Script.
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  • Matt SMatt S Oh Cult Voodoo ShopPosts: 6,610MI6 Agent
    At least Quantum of Solace had the honesty to not shoehorn it in.

    AVTAK's title was so forced. That's when you know you've strayed so far from Fleming.

    Also, naming Craig's residence Skyfall was a little bit of a stretch (but I'm not saying that's a bad thing)

    I think in TLD, they said the title twice to give it extra emphasis.

    In TSWLM, Carly Simon kinda shoehorns it in.

    Skyfall was a very natural title to mention in the film since it actually is something in the film, similar to the way the meaning of Moonraker was adapted for the film. Skyfall was made up for the film, so it really could have been called anything.

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  • Absolutely_CartAbsolutely_Cart NJ/NYC, United StatesPosts: 1,740MI6 Agent
    Okay. Carole Bayer Sager. It's you're fault.
  • BarbelBarbel ScotlandPosts: 37,866Chief of Staff

    I think in TLD, they said the title twice to give it extra emphasis.

    Only once in the dialogue, but repeatedly in the title song.
  • broadshoulderbroadshoulder Acton, London, UKPosts: 1,363MI6 Agent
    Well, there was one which jumped out at me

    "Maybe I'll live to die another day...."

    Ouch. Shoehorn! Ouch!
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  • CmdrAtticusCmdrAtticus United StatesPosts: 1,102MI6 Agent
    For the most part, many of the titles didn't needed to be forced into the dialogue as they were the topic of the whole plot, so when they are mentioned in dialogue it's natural - DN, GF, TB, OP, CR, SF, GE, etc. However, in other instances - TLD, FAVTAK, DAD, etc., forcing the characters to reference the title in some way seems to be just a cheap way of pandering to audiences. It's almost as bad as mentioning the product branding.

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  • Matt SMatt S Oh Cult Voodoo ShopPosts: 6,610MI6 Agent
    I think FRWL, YOLT, FYEO and TLD are excellent examples of the title in the film where it doesn't come as naturally, but still fits in well. AVTAK (CmdrAtticus, FAVTAK is the unrelated short story and is not the title of the film or a line in the film), TWINE and DAD are some of the worst.
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  • AlphaOmegaSinAlphaOmegaSin EnglandPosts: 10,926MI6 Agent
    Daltons Delivery of 'The Living Daylights' Line couldn't have been more perfect though.
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  • ThunderpussyThunderpussy Behind you !Posts: 63,792MI6 Agent
    Only Connery with his experience as a milk man, had a better delivery. ;) :))
    Seriously I too loved that line along with " Yes, I got the message" -{
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