LoeffelholzThe United States, With LovePosts: 8,998Quartermasters
No. It's an enemy agent named Gettler.
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"I am not an entrant in the Shakespeare Stakes." - Ian Fleming
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As for the stairwell fight. I enjoyed the majority of it, but the last part was too brutal for me. I didn't enjoy seeing all that blood on Bond and his nemesis' legs flailing in the air as the life was being choked out of him.
This film shoulda been a 15 rating (in the UK). No way i'd take my 11 yr old neph to see the stairwell or the first kill in the bathroom- as the current 12A allows
Sir MilesThe Wrong Side Of The WardrobePosts: 27,749Chief of Staff
As for the stairwell fight. I enjoyed the majority of it, but the last part was too brutal for me. I didn't enjoy seeing all that blood on Bond and his nemesis' legs flailing in the air as the life was being choked out of him.
This film shoulda been a 15 rating (in the UK). No way i'd take my 11 yr old neph to see the stairwell or the first kill in the bathroom- as the current 12A allows
I know what you're saying - but that scene is fantastic, btw - my 5 year-old is bugging the heck out of me to take him to see it and I really can't make my mind up if I should or not
I was left cold by Casino Royale (and gave a negative review) but I do seem to be the only person who was quite touched by the shower scene.
I loved the shower scene too. Both of them played it perfectly. That was one of the few times Eva looked really pretty to me, very natural. I loved the concern for her from him, rather than the "it's part of the job, get over it.." attitude you might expect Bond to have.
Agreed. The scene was beautiful, touching, and performed finely by both Craig and Green. In fact, if I had to pinpoint a moment where the two characters fell for each other in the film, I would choose the shower scene.
As for the stairwell fight. I enjoyed the majority of it, but the last part was too brutal for me. I didn't enjoy seeing all that blood on Bond and his nemesis' legs flailing in the air as the life was being choked out of him.
This film shoulda been a 15 rating (in the UK). No way i'd take my 11 yr old neph to see the stairwell or the first kill in the bathroom- as the current 12A allows
I know what you're saying - but that scene is fantastic, btw - my 5 year-old is bugging the heck out of me to take him to see it and I really can't make my mind up if I should or not
Go ahead and take your nephew, sir Miles. A 5-year-old would be a pleasure. I just got back from a viewing (my third and counting, or I think I might have said something) in which someone thought it would be a good idea to bring their 4-month-old, who carried on, as 4-month-olds will, the whole picture, their parents oblivious to how annoying it was to the packed theater. X-(
Seriously, it depends on the child. It's bloodier than other Bond films, but pretty tame compared other stuff out there.
Honestly, I think parts of CR are a bit too intense for a 5 year old. The torture scene is short but still very violent (and LeChiffre's final comment about feeding Bond what he doesn't value is pretty vulgar); seeing the way Vesper dies is also quite intense. There are some pretty disturbing images there and I wouldn't be so quick to discount them. At the very least, I'd have a conversation with the child before taking him in to see it.
Honestly, I think parts of CR are a bit too intense for a 5 year old. The torture scene is short but still very violent (and LeChiffre's final comment about feeding Bond what he doesn't value is pretty vulgar); seeing the way Vesper dies is also quite intense. There are some pretty disturbing images there and I wouldn't be so quick to discount them. At the very least, I'd have a conversation with the child before taking him in to see it.
You may be right. I'd be a little uncomfortable explaining the torture scene to someone that young.
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I had trepidations about taking my 8- (will be 9 in January) year old, and took pains to show him stills from the torture sequence beforehand, explaining what was going on, and that of course it was all very real-looking 'make believe.' Of course, even an 8 year-old boy understands what a THWACK in the nuts is all about...
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Sir MilesThe Wrong Side Of The WardrobePosts: 27,749Chief of Staff
Honestly, I think parts of CR are a bit too intense for a 5 year old. The torture scene is short but still very violent (and LeChiffre's final comment about feeding Bond what he doesn't value is pretty vulgar); seeing the way Vesper dies is also quite intense. There are some pretty disturbing images there and I wouldn't be so quick to discount them. At the very least, I'd have a conversation with the child before taking him in to see it.
We've watched a few of the other Bond movies together, plus other films [Spiderman, Jurassic Park, etc] and, as bad/funny as this sounds, he doesn't have a problem with the violence - we've discussed the film afterwards and I've shown him how it's been made [the wonders of DVD] - most of the torture scene will go over his head anyway, but it's still strong violence.
I've heard several people at work debate whether they should take their kids. In the end, I did take my 9 year old nephew along and he thought it was fine (probably has seen worse on the telly), but despite not being graphic or gorey, it's just brutal at times.
Actually, a colleague summed it up quite well, it's like watching a fight in the street at points - it looks too real. No over the top blood or effects, but you can almost feel every blow.
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"I am not an entrant in the Shakespeare Stakes." - Ian Fleming
"Screw 'em." - Daniel Craig, The Best James Bond EverTM
Do u think they would have the PTS in colour as a DVD extra? It would be klass if they did, could see the bathrooom scene in gory detail.
I loved the shower scene too. Both of them played it perfectly. That was one of the few times Eva looked really pretty to me, very natural. I loved the concern for her from him, rather than the "it's part of the job, get over it.." attitude you might expect Bond to have.
You may be right. I'd be a little uncomfortable explaining the torture scene to someone that young.
"I am not an entrant in the Shakespeare Stakes." - Ian Fleming
"Screw 'em." - Daniel Craig, The Best James Bond EverTM
We've watched a few of the other Bond movies together, plus other films [Spiderman, Jurassic Park, etc] and, as bad/funny as this sounds, he doesn't have a problem with the violence - we've discussed the film afterwards and I've shown him how it's been made [the wonders of DVD] - most of the torture scene will go over his head anyway, but it's still strong violence.
I'll have to think about it a bit more.
Actually, a colleague summed it up quite well, it's like watching a fight in the street at points - it looks too real. No over the top blood or effects, but you can almost feel every blow.