I also noticed that the familiar refrain of the Bond theme was quoted at several points in the soundtrack
I think that once you have the plot down you allow yourself to feel a lot more of the film, if you know what I mean??
I found the music a lot more atmospheric the 3rd time I saw it. I particularly like the orchestration of the CC song used when they are arriving to meet Mathis for the first time.
One of the big things to notice seeing the film a second time + is Vesper's reaction to her name being the password when Mr Mendel puts in his second appearance - the looks on her face and general body languange make a lot more sense and are a lot more noticeable.
I found the music a lot more atmospheric the 3rd time I saw it. I particularly like the orchestration of the CC song used when they are arriving to meet Mathis for the first time.
I thought CC's song is very underrated as a Bond theme from what I read on this site. I liked it a lot, even though I wouldn't know Soundgarden (I think that's his old band) if I fell over them -- a bit after my time. The only thing I didn't like was the mix. The backing overwhelmed the vocals a little, I think, which made it hard to make out the lyrics, which are very Bondian, IMO.
I found the music a lot more atmospheric the 3rd time I saw it. I particularly like the orchestration of the CC song used when they are arriving to meet Mathis for the first time.
I thought CC's song is very underrated as a Bond theme from what I read on this site. I liked it a lot, even though I wouldn't know Soundgarden (I think that's his old band) if I fell over them -- a bit after my time. The only thing I didn't like was the mix. The backing overwhelmed the vocals a little, I think, which made it hard to make out the lyrics, which are very Bondian, IMO.
I actually quite liked it as well and the more I hear it the more it's growing on me.
Also finally got round to seeing it for the second time. I will probably see it once more and that will be it.
Probably about 7, once in theaters, and then the one i downloaded the next day although i might head out to the theater again before christmas
LoeffelholzThe United States, With LovePosts: 8,998Quartermasters
I'm absolutely thrilled---I've lined up babysitters for the kids, and am finally getting my lovely and long-suffering wife out to the cinema tomorrow night: my third viewing...with dinner and drinks to follow
I still anticipate a fourth viewing before surrendering to the wait for the DVD...
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Sir MilesThe Wrong Side Of The WardrobePosts: 27,749Chief of Staff
I'm off for my 7th viewing in a couple of hours - what a sad git I am
Tomorrow I'll be seeing CR for the first time, and then I'll see it once more regardless of what I think of it; that is unless it is absolutely dreadful.
"He’s a man way out there in the blue, riding on a smile and a shoeshine. And when they start not smiling back—that’s an earthquake. and then you get yourself a couple of spots on your hat, and you’re finished. Nobody dast blame this man. A salesman is got to dream, boy. It comes with the territory." Death of a Salesman
Tomorrow I'll be seeing CR for the first time, and then I'll see it once more regardless of what I think of it; that is unless it is absolutely dreadful.
So Dan -- I guess we can expect the first of your fawning posts over Craig the following day? Or will you bring a laptop with you to the theater and post directly in mid-film? )
I am debating a fourth viewing, perhaps on Sunday as the beloved is off to the football so that leaves me with a few hours free. Either that or I might go in the week after Christmas as I suspect it will still be on as its still on 10 showings a day atm.
Problem is that my brother gave me a DVD version the other night - and don't worry, got the obligatory lecture about piracy etc. - but I couldn't resist watching it and have now seen it 3 times on top of my cinema visits. The ability to go back again and again to certain parts is just fantastic. I simply cannot wait for the official DVD to materialise.
NightshooterIn bed with SolitairePosts: 2,917MI6 Agent
Just saw it a third time with Walther P99 (the member). Loved it yet again.
LoeffelholzThe United States, With LovePosts: 8,998Quartermasters
Had my third viewing last night with the Mrs. (her first)...
My wife loves Craig, and can't wait for his next one. She's always been big on Bond's eyes: they have to be cold...and she says Craigger's icy blues are right for the part. She appreciated the torso, as well I think
She didn't care for Vesper at all, however (the character, not the actress, whom she thought did a good job)...didn't buy into the 'tragic' aspect at all---in fact, she said she actually expected Bond to kill her, ala Electra in TWINE...
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"I am not an entrant in the Shakespeare Stakes." - Ian Fleming
"Screw 'em." - Daniel Craig, The Best James Bond EverTM
I recently saw CR for the first time. I will be seeing it again very soon and I wouldn't be suprised if I end up seeing it three times. It's not because I absolutely adore/worship it (even films which I am completely in love with, I wouldn't see more than twice in the initial run); rather it's because I'm not too sure what to think about it. I need to see it again to determine what I think about it. I will then see it for a third time, presumably, with someone else. My first two screenings will both have been by myself.
"He’s a man way out there in the blue, riding on a smile and a shoeshine. And when they start not smiling back—that’s an earthquake. and then you get yourself a couple of spots on your hat, and you’re finished. Nobody dast blame this man. A salesman is got to dream, boy. It comes with the territory." Death of a Salesman
Sir MilesThe Wrong Side Of The WardrobePosts: 27,749Chief of Staff
I'm off for my 7th viewing in a couple of hours - what a sad git I am
Yowza! Seven viewings. I tip my hat to you.
How many do you think you'll get in before the film leaves the theaters? Or are you maxed out now?
Nope, I squeeze in a few more screenings before the film leaves the theatres.
I should have plenty of time too as I only have one more day in work untill next year
5 times its class... real hark back to bond of the early sixties. Inspired and graig is superb, has a real menace and brutality akin to connery and lazenby. Let hope campbell directs the next one...
'...exceptionally fine shot...'
Sir MilesThe Wrong Side Of The WardrobePosts: 27,749Chief of Staff
Was Vesper in love with Bond? I believe so. If not, why did she bother to stay with him, after she finally managed to get her hands on the money during Mendel's visit to the nursing home?
Also, her caress of Bond's fingers, while she was stuck in that elevator underwater and the seashell Bond had discovered amongst her possessions proved that she had been in love with him.
I, too, believe that Vesper falls for Bond - but it's interesting to wonder if it's all part of the plan.
Vesper had to stay with Bond until she could withdraw the money from the bank and hand it over to Gettler safely - or set Gettler up so that Bond would kill him.
Vesper had to stay with Bond until she could withdraw the money from the bank and hand it over to Gettler safely - or set Gettler up so that Bond would kill him.
Why would Vesper need Bond around until she could withdraw the money? She had already managed to transfer it to that bank account in Venice, while he was still recovering.
If she didn't love him, she could have made an excuse to bid him good-bye and leave.
As I said, I believe Vesper falls for Bond but, as M says, "she must have known she was going to her death" and the money was a trade-off for Bond's life. Perhaps she wanted to be sure before she handed it over - you know women and money ?
I also think that Vesper knew they would not let her live - and, anyhow, how would she explain the missing money to Bond and the Treasury ? I think she wanted Bond to find out who was behind all this and avenge her.
Don't forget that both Le Chiffre and Mr. White worked for the same organization. In fact, I cannot help but wonder how Steven Obanno had learned of Le Chiffre's whereabouts.
I'm not so sure that LeChiffre and Mr. White did work for the same organization. I think LC may have been what we would call an independent contractor. Mr. White says as much at the beginning of the film, when he tells Obanno that his organization could guarantee the introduction to LeChiffre but not the safety of the money. That as well as subsequent developments suggests to me that there were competing interests at play.
highhopes, is that a moped you are sitting on? Does it have a rocket powered sidecar like in TSWLM? And that outfit looks suspiciously like Bond's romper suit in Goldfinger.
Sir MilesThe Wrong Side Of The WardrobePosts: 27,749Chief of Staff
This is the first time that I haven't wanted to see a Bond film more than once. I saw The World is Not Enough and Die Another Day twice but have no desire to go and see Casino Royale again.
I want gadgets and insane villains with improbable plans to take over the world and gratuitous opening credits with girls doing stuff.
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Sir Miles is strengthen his position as "Person who has seen CR the most times in the theater".
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I think that once you have the plot down you allow yourself to feel a lot more of the film, if you know what I mean??
I found the music a lot more atmospheric the 3rd time I saw it. I particularly like the orchestration of the CC song used when they are arriving to meet Mathis for the first time.
One of the big things to notice seeing the film a second time + is Vesper's reaction to her name being the password when Mr Mendel puts in his second appearance - the looks on her face and general body languange make a lot more sense and are a lot more noticeable.
Number Two, I'm only planning on seeing it one time, as the movie left a bitter taste in my mouth.
Perhaps though, that when it comes out on DVD, then I'll change my mind.
I thought CC's song is very underrated as a Bond theme from what I read on this site. I liked it a lot, even though I wouldn't know Soundgarden (I think that's his old band) if I fell over them -- a bit after my time. The only thing I didn't like was the mix. The backing overwhelmed the vocals a little, I think, which made it hard to make out the lyrics, which are very Bondian, IMO.
I actually quite liked it as well and the more I hear it the more it's growing on me.
Also finally got round to seeing it for the second time. I will probably see it once more and that will be it.
I still anticipate a fourth viewing before surrendering to the wait for the DVD...
"I am not an entrant in the Shakespeare Stakes." - Ian Fleming
"Screw 'em." - Daniel Craig, The Best James Bond EverTM
So Dan -- I guess we can expect the first of your fawning posts over Craig the following day? Or will you bring a laptop with you to the theater and post directly in mid-film?
Yowza! Seven viewings. I tip my hat to you.
How many do you think you'll get in before the film leaves the theaters? Or are you maxed out now?
Problem is that my brother gave me a DVD version the other night - and don't worry, got the obligatory lecture about piracy etc. - but I couldn't resist watching it and have now seen it 3 times on top of my cinema visits. The ability to go back again and again to certain parts is just fantastic. I simply cannot wait for the official DVD to materialise.
My wife loves Craig, and can't wait for his next one. She's always been big on Bond's eyes: they have to be cold...and she says Craigger's icy blues are right for the part. She appreciated the torso, as well I think
She didn't care for Vesper at all, however (the character, not the actress, whom she thought did a good job)...didn't buy into the 'tragic' aspect at all---in fact, she said she actually expected Bond to kill her, ala Electra in TWINE...
"I am not an entrant in the Shakespeare Stakes." - Ian Fleming
"Screw 'em." - Daniel Craig, The Best James Bond EverTM
Nope, I squeeze in a few more screenings before the film leaves the theatres.
I should have plenty of time too as I only have one more day in work untill next year
I, too, believe that Vesper falls for Bond - but it's interesting to wonder if it's all part of the plan.
Vesper had to stay with Bond until she could withdraw the money from the bank and hand it over to Gettler safely - or set Gettler up so that Bond would kill him.
As I said, I believe Vesper falls for Bond but, as M says, "she must have known she was going to her death" and the money was a trade-off for Bond's life. Perhaps she wanted to be sure before she handed it over - you know women and money ?
I also think that Vesper knew they would not let her live - and, anyhow, how would she explain the missing money to Bond and the Treasury ? I think she wanted Bond to find out who was behind all this and avenge her.
Or perhaps go and rescue her captive boyfriend ???
I'm not so sure that LeChiffre and Mr. White did work for the same organization. I think LC may have been what we would call an independent contractor. Mr. White says as much at the beginning of the film, when he tells Obanno that his organization could guarantee the introduction to LeChiffre but not the safety of the money. That as well as subsequent developments suggests to me that there were competing interests at play.
Good point - hadn't thought of that, although I think Vesper believes he's dead.
This is the first time that I haven't wanted to see a Bond film more than once. I saw The World is Not Enough and Die Another Day twice but have no desire to go and see Casino Royale again.
I want gadgets and insane villains with improbable plans to take over the world and gratuitous opening credits with girls doing stuff.
Sigh.