are hardcore bond fans lame?
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This doesn't apply to everyone and sorry to those that it doesn't, but why is it that the crazy Bond fans who collect EVERYTHING that is James Bond always seem to be the complete opposite of Bond?
The extreme fans I've encountered have no social skils, NEVER get any dates, don't even know how to talk to women let alone have a conversation that isn't weird and awkward, have trouble holding jobs, live at home while not working or going to school until mid to late 20's, etc etc
yet they're obsessed with Bond. They can rattle off stats of how much money each film generated, exactly what awards each film won or was nominated for, what year each movie was made, etc etc - lots of trivial knowledge.
I mean, bond is ok and all - decent action movies and all, but that's about it. I typically enjoy them, but that's where it stops. I've been equating the huge fans to be somewhat akin to dungeons and dragons sorta people only they lack the sharp intelligence some of them have.
So it's my standing theory that all the hardcore bond fanatics want to be just like Bond - smooth, perfect, knows everything, great with getting hot women in bed, blows stuff up.
The Bond fanatics I know always talk up a big thing how they just started talking to this really hot girl online who after 1 small email stops talking with them. They're into guns just like bond. When they turn 21 they suddenly think drinking alcohol is such a refreshingly great thing and become picky about their drinks - just like bond.
It's just strange to me that someone can spend all their free time obsessing over their fake role model hero and let their life drift away into nothingness while other people their age are out educating themselves on things that actually do matter, learning to talk to girls and getting girlfriends, getting a worthwhile career going, buying an actual nice sports car - not some slow thing that mom and dad bought them
again I'm sorry. I'm just frusturated that I have a family member who spends his days at home watching the same bond movies over and over again while learning and memorizing every fact and figure about them instead of becoming his own reincarnation of James Bond
The extreme fans I've encountered have no social skils, NEVER get any dates, don't even know how to talk to women let alone have a conversation that isn't weird and awkward, have trouble holding jobs, live at home while not working or going to school until mid to late 20's, etc etc
yet they're obsessed with Bond. They can rattle off stats of how much money each film generated, exactly what awards each film won or was nominated for, what year each movie was made, etc etc - lots of trivial knowledge.
I mean, bond is ok and all - decent action movies and all, but that's about it. I typically enjoy them, but that's where it stops. I've been equating the huge fans to be somewhat akin to dungeons and dragons sorta people only they lack the sharp intelligence some of them have.
So it's my standing theory that all the hardcore bond fanatics want to be just like Bond - smooth, perfect, knows everything, great with getting hot women in bed, blows stuff up.
The Bond fanatics I know always talk up a big thing how they just started talking to this really hot girl online who after 1 small email stops talking with them. They're into guns just like bond. When they turn 21 they suddenly think drinking alcohol is such a refreshingly great thing and become picky about their drinks - just like bond.
It's just strange to me that someone can spend all their free time obsessing over their fake role model hero and let their life drift away into nothingness while other people their age are out educating themselves on things that actually do matter, learning to talk to girls and getting girlfriends, getting a worthwhile career going, buying an actual nice sports car - not some slow thing that mom and dad bought them
again I'm sorry. I'm just frusturated that I have a family member who spends his days at home watching the same bond movies over and over again while learning and memorizing every fact and figure about them instead of becoming his own reincarnation of James Bond
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There have been a couple people who post here who seem to take it all just a little too seriously, but Bond fandom is the symptom of what ails them, not the cause, IMO. On a couple of occasions, the moderators have asked them to stop posting because they were just too weird.
...And yet I'm still here B-)
:v
"I am not an entrant in the Shakespeare Stakes." - Ian Fleming
"Screw 'em." - Daniel Craig, The Best James Bond EverTM
Most people are not like that. Also, you do not have to be like James Bond to really like the sereis, I am very law-abiding, but my favorite movies(other than James Bond)are The Godfather series.
Hmmm, I dont know. Are hardcore sports fans lame? Are hardcore workoholics lame? Are hardcore video game players lame? I would think that if you become so obsessed with anything in life that it completely absorbs all facets of your being that yes, it is pretty lame.
I consider myself to be a big Bond fan. I also have many non Bond related hobbies as I'm sure the rest of the board does too. For example, I love skiing downhill as people shoot bullets at me. I love chasing after gorgeous women that have strange names. I love driving fast cars that shoot oil slicks out the back. And last but not least, I love drinking martinis and flying around with my jet pack.
Is it just me, or can other people picture the comic book guy. Like the time he bought a 1000 buritoes and said "yes, this should supply addequete sustinance for the Dr Who marathon"
Hopefully you stick to a one martini limit when doing that, i sounds like a good way to cause an accident.
I like it because it doesn't matter how much i'll try i'll never be Bond (not as tall, as strong or British enough) but hey, i prefer a date to see a movie on tv.
Every fan has his/her right to like something, but there is a little thing called real life, and no matter how hard (or boring) it gets, we have to live it.
But all extremes are dangerous, i always hated the hardcore fans but i always associated them to the obvious themes (LOTR, Star Wars D&D) i haven't met a Bond hardcore (for the reasons above)
If they exist, you're right, they should be like that, if they don't behave as you say they really haven't got the "Bond's way of living".
I wouldnt say I am a huge bond maniac, but i know every year, crew etc etc. I dont think that James Bond attracts weirdo's to their Fan Base because its not a series that like Star Wars seems to attract people that like space and computers. Compared to JB fans that want to be part of that class and sophistication.
"Better make that two."
Would it be less tragic if a fandom afflicted family member was obsessing over Napoleon Dynamite? It's the same deal, but without the paradox to easily sensationalize.
Or maybe, if a Bond fanatic multiplies his energies, he'll eventually reach a point of "self-Bond realization," recognize his geekness for what it is, to finally evolve into the true sophisticate that he's become...have faith
Oh come on... it seems like a good question, i mean Bond is easier (expensive but easier) to IMITATE (without needed to be a 24/7 GEEK) to be rather than a fantasy guy. I mean, people would think to dye his hair (if they love Craig) or simply to get Blue/grey Contacts... but i don't think anyone would go to have a permanent "elf or spock" ears...
I haven't feel offended myself (because i kinda know me), but if there is a Bond fan like he defines his brother, is not a "fan" thing, is more like a "personal behaviour". i think there is no need for an excuse to be sitting in your living room and not have a life... i can do that only zapping.
too bad for you I'm married
I'm just irritated that instead of getting his life together, getting out there working, and going to college, and making something out of himself - which is something girls tend to go for, he spends all his time watching movies at home and memorizing Bond stats.
What's sadder is it's completely worthless. You can't do anything with that knowledge. I mean, at least some hobbies and interests can be made into a career or open a store. WTF is he going to do? Open a James Bond store? You think that'd go over really well? There's nothing to show for it and nothing anyone does can motivate him.
sorry if you think I'm posting a bunch of BS, I suppose it might look that way huh? Cause how could Bond obsession ever become a negative thing?
James Bond is merely the subject matter. Therefore, tracing the cause for lameness to Bond ("are hardcore bond fans lame?") is an invalid argument to make. Your relative's problem has more to do with general attitudes and behaviors. As I mentioned, it's easier for you to affront this person because of the contrast between the "suave" subject matter and this person's actual lifestyle, at the risk of diverting attention from the real issue, if that is any business of yours in the first place.
BTW, lest you think I'm not qualified to speak, I am a geek of many interests, though Bond is a main one. However, I know better to keep my interests in place and rest assured that I am fully engaged in my life's more important activities, such as career, marriage and parenthood.
must've hit a nerve...
why are you stooping to name calling? I never insulted you or even James Bond. You sound incredibly defensive when I'm just explaining my situation. I'm sure the same could be said for all sorts of hardcore additions to antisocial hobbies. He goes to movies by himself frequently and otherwise stays home watching movies or reading about them online. With James Bond being the primary series he watches
As far as my screen name, well you'd understand if your brother has spent the last 10 years rambling off James Bond stats to you all the time while wasting their life away. I used to like James Bond just fine until it was constantly in your face to the point that I can't ever think about James Bond without thinking about my brother's situation.
benskelly,
I'd email you or private message you if this site allows a link to another site having nothing to do with James Bone where I started a thread about my brother's situation and in 1 day has accumulated 97 posts...I'd just rather not post it publicly because it reveals too much information about me. For all I know my brother is on this site
Your real question shouldn't be generalized to hardcore fans of Bond or anything else.
In describing himself, superado also describes me (and, I suspect, many others here). If "lame" means I can recite Bond films verbatim, discuss half-second voice dubbings, earnestly debate which of 20 different gunbarrel sequences is best, and read and write endless paragraphs on the subject of James Bond...I am guilty as charged. However, I have three children, a wife of 17 years, a steady well-paying job, numerous other interests and a vibrant social life.
If your brother truly behaves as you claim, he may have a serious disorder...or he may simply be content to live his life in a way you find irritating but he finds comfortable. If you are really serious about changing his behavior, I suggest you stop wasting time posting to this website and figure out how to help him. What good are you doing him here?
You should also take a writing course -- adults tend not to say things like "this really hot girl online" and "not some slow thing that mom and dad bought them".
you're right. I have hobbies that I'm very knowledgable with too. But I don't let them ruin me.
I was being a bit sarcastic and actually somewhat quoting my brother when I said those things you pointed out. And BTW there's no comparing his car to mine, different leagues. Viper vs a tiburon...he brags about his tiburon being fast - nuff said. And he didn't even buy his
Second, yaybond, I don't think it's fair to blame BOND for your family member's lack of a life. You could say that I'm a hardcore fan in that I watch the movies, can quote them, know the novels, and have a modest collection; but I also have a job, responsibilities, and a very busy life. Posting to AJB every day is usually the extent to which Bond affects me. Also, a lot of the fans who collect "everything" do so because they can AFFORD to do it. We don't look at men who collect vintage cars as weirdos, so why should we think that way about someone who has an enormous Bond collection? If your family member is incapable of holding of job, has no social skills, and spends all his time watching Bond movies, then 007 is just a symptom and not the problem itself.
Gee thanks, HB. Take away all my excuses, why don't you! sheesh! 8-)
I agree, and I think that this has gone off hand.
I know James Bond didn't cause things to go as they did. He has some issues and it's just easy to latch onto Bond as a target. But really there's bigger problems at work
I didn't mean to offend anyone
I moved to Colorado springs about 3 weeks ago near the airport. I didn't even know you lived here until you mentioned it...
whatever
I know you can't resist my thread...come back please
Yeah she thought she'd come along too B-)
hold on, I gotta edit this post just to annoy you
ahhh there