Eurovision 2007, Finland

Moonraker 5Moonraker 5 Ayrshire, ScotlandPosts: 1,821MI6 Agent
edited March 2007 in Off Topic Chat
We're starting to approach that time of year again when the United Kingdom picks which act will go on to fail miserably at that wonderous annual event, where we gather round our TVs to laugh hysterically at our European neighbours and see just how awful their music tastes are.

Sadly, despite the hyped rumours, Morrissey is not part of the line up for the BBC's Making Your Mind Up competition. However, former-The Darkness frontman Justin Hawkins is, together with Brian Harvey (formerly of East 17), Liz McClarnon (formerly of Atomic Kitten) and Big Brovaz...


http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/6404193.stm
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  • Lady RoseLady Rose London,UKPosts: 2,667MI6 Agent
    Oooooohh, goody {[]

    I love a bit of Eurovision.

    Justin Hawkins though, whats that all about ????
  • jetsetwillyjetsetwilly Liverpool, UKPosts: 1,048MI6 Agent
    Lady Rose wrote:
    Justin Hawkins though, whats that all about ????

    About the end of his career, I'd say. Scooch for Eurosong!
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  • Moore Not LessMoore Not Less Posts: 1,095MI6 Agent
    Could you please remind me who won Eurovision in 2007? :D

    For a moment, I thought I'd lost a year of my life.
  • AlexAlex The Eastern SeaboardPosts: 2,694MI6 Agent
    The Finland group that looked like Halloween. And the world was a better place for it! ;)
  • Lady RoseLady Rose London,UKPosts: 2,667MI6 Agent
    Lady Rose wrote:
    Justin Hawkins though, whats that all about ????

    About the end of his career, I'd say. Scooch for Eurosong!

    I heard a snippet of his song on the News.Not for me I'm afraid but as the proud owner of a Scooch cd .... there the ones for me! ( should I be admitting that ? )

    Interesting group of has beens. Eurovision has obviously become the home of pop failures :D
  • BarbelBarbel ScotlandPosts: 37,860Chief of Staff
    Lady Rose wrote:
    Interesting group of has beens. Eurovision has obviously become the home of pop failures :D

    Maybe I should send in a demo, then! :'(
  • arthur pringlearthur pringle SpacePosts: 366MI6 Agent
    Is it that time of the year already? As a Smiths fan I'm relieved that the Morrissey rumour was just that. I think it stemmed from a joke Mozza made. Whoever wins the UK vote they can't be as bad as that bloke we had rapping 8-) last year but they'll inevitably end up with two points or something.
  • TylerTyler Posts: 184MI6 Agent
    Eurovision?......?
    Never fear the event
  • Moonraker 5Moonraker 5 Ayrshire, ScotlandPosts: 1,821MI6 Agent
    edited March 2007
    Could you please remind me who won Eurovision in 2007? :D
    How could you forget Lordi? They even had a guest appearance by Margaret Beckett on the keyboard! :D

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    Tyler wrote:
    Eurovision?......?
    European thing. Big televised song contest. Each participant country enters a song and everyone votes for which one they thought was the best (or worst, depending on how seriously you take it). 42 nations are taking part this year.

    There's a bit on the UK's, erm, "hopefuls", along with clips, here:


    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/6405743.stm
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  • Lady RoseLady Rose London,UKPosts: 2,667MI6 Agent
    Could you please remind me who won Eurovision in 2007? :D

    Forgive me for pointing out the obvious, but I think MNL was teasing as it is actually 2007 and not 2008 as in the title thread ;%
  • Moonraker 5Moonraker 5 Ayrshire, ScotlandPosts: 1,821MI6 Agent
    Lady Rose wrote:
    Could you please remind me who won Eurovision in 2007? :D

    Forgive me for pointing out the obvious, but I think MNL was teasing as it is actually 2007 and not 2008 as in the title thread ;%
    Well, it wasn't readily obvious to me!* ;% I keep wanting to skip 2007 for some reason - of all the dates I use at work or write anywhere, I keep defaulting to 2006 or 2008! :o

    *Or Alex, so I get to share the donkey moment! :)
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  • Moonraker 5Moonraker 5 Ayrshire, ScotlandPosts: 1,821MI6 Agent
    Alex wrote:
    I thought MNL was simply having one of his forgetful moments :D
    Well, he is getting on a bit... {:)
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  • AlexAlex The Eastern SeaboardPosts: 2,694MI6 Agent
    Lady Rose wrote:

    Forgive me for pointing out the obvious, but I think MNL was teasing as it is actually 2007 and not 2008 as in the title thread ;%
    Well, it wasn't readily obvious to me!* ;% I keep wanting to skip 2007 for some reason - of all the dates I use at work or write anywhere, I keep defaulting to 2006 or 2008! :o

    *Or Alex, so I get to share the donkey moment! :)
    HeeHaw, brethren. I didn't mind the date in your title, my apologies for missing the obvious.

    I thought MNL was simply having one of his forgetful moments :D
  • Moonraker 5Moonraker 5 Ayrshire, ScotlandPosts: 1,821MI6 Agent
    Alex wrote:
    I thought MNL was simply having one of his forgetful moments :D
    Whereas I'm on a role - not only am I a year ahead of you all, I'm also able to predict what you're going to post! :D
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  • AlexAlex The Eastern SeaboardPosts: 2,694MI6 Agent
    Alex wrote:
    not only am I a year ahead of you all, I'm also able to predict what you're going to post! :D
    :)) That's uncanny!
  • Moore Not LessMoore Not Less Posts: 1,095MI6 Agent
    edited March 2007
    Post Deleted. ;%
  • Lady RoseLady Rose London,UKPosts: 2,667MI6 Agent
    Did anyone see 'Making Your Mind Up' last night?

    Personally, I think Big Brovas should be representing us in Eurovision. they were actually very good. Having said that, I've been singing 'We're flying the flag' all morning long whilst propelling my arms :))
  • jetsetwillyjetsetwilly Liverpool, UKPosts: 1,048MI6 Agent
    edited March 2007
    The nation has spoken. Well, maybe not the nation, but the gay part of it certainly has. I didn't watch it live because (a) I was out and (b) the presence of The Dreaded Cotton meant that fast forwarding wasn't just an option, it was necessary for my survival.

    Big Brovaz' girls were very good; the rapping men weren't though.

    Bird from Atomic Kitten - Liverpool certainly wasn't right behind you (at least my house wasn't).

    I couldn't believe that Cindi made it through to the last two - her song was unbelievably drab. And Justin Hawkins and whatever her name was - it was shaping up nicely - great voice, fantastic frock - then Justin Hawkins came caterwauling over it and sent it plummeting.

    What kind of world are we living in when the poor man's Steps are the best? The dark haired tanorexic man in Schooch really creeps me out. Still, at least the song's fun, in a sort of dreadful way. The line "Would sir like something to suck on while we land?" is outrageous, and I can't imagine it's going to win us votes from the more religious countries.

    I am however really looking forward to the show itself now that I've seen the Ukraine will be represented by a fat drag queen wrapped in tinfoil.
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  • Lady RoseLady Rose London,UKPosts: 2,667MI6 Agent
    ...the presence of The Dreaded Cotton meant that fast forwarding wasn't just an option, it was necessary for my survival.

    How on earth has she got to where she is? She is awful. I did the same when she was introducing Comic Relief. Did you see her at The Oscars for Sky ? 8-)

    I couldn't believe that Cindi made it through to the last two - her song was unbelievably drab. And Justin Hawkins and whatever her name was - it was shaping up nicely - great voice, fantastic frock - then Justin Hawkins came caterwauling over it and sent it plummeting.

    I got the impression that Hawkins heart wasn't quite in it :D Agree about the frock, fantastic!

    The line "Would sir like something to suck on while we land?" is outrageous

    Now that was a coffee splurting moment! Fabulous.
    I am however really looking forward to the show itself now that I've seen the Ukraine will be represented by a fat drag queen wrapped in tinfoil.

    Drag queens are de rigueur this year. Doesn't Denmark have one to? Maybe we should have got Dame Edna to represent us.
  • jetsetwillyjetsetwilly Liverpool, UKPosts: 1,048MI6 Agent
    edited March 2007
    Denmark does have one, but he/she is quite convincing. I much prefer rubbish trannies for maximum comedy. If they're overweight, all the better.

    I didn't see Cotton at the Oscars; I avoided that section in case my ears started bleeding. Why do the Beeb keep thrusting her upon us when the wonderful Claudia Winkleman And Her Amazing Fringe are relegated to being Patrick "I'm Popular in Northern Ireland, You Know" Kielty's sidekick? I'm baffled.

    And I forgot to add: I love Mel Giedroyc even more now.
    Founder of the Wint & Kidd Appreciation Society.

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  • jetsetwillyjetsetwilly Liverpool, UKPosts: 1,048MI6 Agent
    Well, as is traditional, I have purchased the Eurovision CD.

    (SPOILER WARNING) - though the real spoiler is the state of my ears now.

    Oh dear, it's not a classic year, guys and gals. This is how bad it is: Scooch sounds good in this company. Scooch sounds like a winner in this company. I think it's something to do with the death of civilisation; certainly there were horsemen of the apocalypse circling my home while i listened.

    Basically, the entrants can be divided into three categories:

    (a) "If Lordi can win, we can too!". These are countries who think that Lordi won last year because of their hard rock stylings, rather than the fact that they had silly masks and explosions on stage. Austria, Montenegro and even Finland (among others) seem to believe that solid rawk is the way forward; unfortunately they all sound like Evanescence out takes, with a smidgeon of BonJovi c1986. This includes Israel's "Push The Button" which is apparently about Iran's nuclear policy; it's made me anti-Tehran, because if their political stance is inspiring such truly appaling music, then there should be a regime change.

    (b) "Gays rule the world!" Yes, Hi-NRG lives on in the world of Eurovision. Leaving aside Scooch and their "Would sir like something to suck on while we land?" (watch it here, though I'd advise wearing lead all over your body before viewing it in case its repellent factors permeate your bloodstream), we also have Denmark's "Drama Queen", Turkey's "Shake it Up Shekerim" and Cyprus's "Comme Ci - Comme Ca".

    (c) "We would rather not go to the expense of hosting Eurovision next year. Please do not vote for us." This category includes practically all of Eastern Europe, who have contributed some of the most impenetrably bizarre pop of recent years; the Czech Republic have chosen to make their Eurovision debut with a song that sounds like Barry White gargling with gravel, with Green Day on backing, while Montenegro has contributed a song called "Ajde Kroci", which I assume is Serbo-Croat for "we are saving our national television budget for a really big entry in 2010".

    Leaving aside these three categories, the more "tradtional" Eurovision nations seem to have lost their minds this year. The UK's decision to send a Steps cover band comes under this category, of course, but consider that Sweden - the country that brought us ABBA, lest we forget - has submitted a Slade out take for their entry; that Ireland's entry contains pipes, a heartfelt lass, and the title "They Can't Stop The Spring", and is therefore the most blarney filled object this side of a leprechaun on Giant's Causeway; that the Germans have submitted a swing song. Now I love the German language; I studied it for five years, and I still consider a phrase like "um die Ecke" to be poetry, but the tongue is not naturally made for the laid back jazz as perpetrated by Frank, Bing and Sammi Davis, Jnr. Try to imagine Nat King Cole as a commandant at Colditz and you'll get the cultural clash going on.

    Latvia has sent a bad photocopy of the Three Tenors; Slovenia is submitting a song which is clearly left over from the Communist days, and is probably extolling the virtues of good crop rotation and Lenin; and France, in a refreshing example of humility, have submitted a song in English. Actually, it's in Franglais; they must have asked an English person to write it, but been vague on the language to be used. Thus we get lyrics like "l'amour a la francais, let's do it again", which is actually worse than a song in French. Anyone who's heard "Joe le Taxi" will realise what a hideous concept that is.

    Favourites? Well, I give props to Russia's "Song #1" for sounding like a Girls Aloud outtake for the first half, before it crashes and burns; Romania's "Liubi, Liubi, I Love You" has a certain naive charm; and the Ukraine's entry sounds like Borat was let loose on the DJ stand. Bulgaria's "Water" has a charm, like a drunk Auntie on the karaoke stand at a wedding, and I love Belarus' "Work Your Magic" because (a) it has an intro like a long-lost Bond theme and (b) it continually rhymes "Feeling" with "Willing", as though that was a rhyme that anyone with a decent grasp of English would use. I hope no-one points out his linguistic error before the finals - I still have fond memories of Bosnia & Herzegovina's "Call Me" a couple of years ago, where they mispronounced "party" as "porty" and it was strangely endearing.

    Special mention should go to Switzerland's "Vampires Are Alive", which manages to make vampires non-frightening and non-sexual. I frankly feel sorry for the people of Switzerland, because I have heard that this song has caused controversy for its scandalous content in that tiny nation; if you find this bland piece of Euro pap offensive for any reason other than it's tripe, then clearly you are a country who has nothing better to think about.

    My advice? Drink early, and drink often; it may be best to get loaded around 6pm, and to employ a small boy to wake you up in time for the voting rounds.
    Founder of the Wint & Kidd Appreciation Society.

    @merseytart
  • Lady RoseLady Rose London,UKPosts: 2,667MI6 Agent
    Oh dear, it all sounds pretty dire .... PERFECT!

    I have yet to subject myself to the other entrants, I ordered my copy yesterday so I will give a full appraisal in a day or two.

    As for Scooch, they were 'performing' on Blue Peter yesterday. The infamous 'Would Sir like something to suck on for landing' was changed to a rather bland 'Would Sir like a sweet' ... talk about taking the fun out of something :))
  • Sir MilesSir Miles The Wrong Side Of The WardrobePosts: 27,749Chief of Staff
    Lady Rose wrote:
    Oh dear, it all sounds pretty dire .... PERFECT!

    Yes indeed - bring it on ! :D

    Thanks for the rundown, jestset.
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  • Lady RoseLady Rose London,UKPosts: 2,667MI6 Agent
    ... and the Ukraine's entry sounds like Borat was let loose on the DJ stand.

    I laughed out loud when I first heard this but, strangely, its growing on me (like a fungus). It could just be that my daughter loves it and played it 5 times on the trot this morning in the car - that and Israels 'Push the Button'.

    There are quite a few bizarre entries this year and Lordi are without doubt the inspiration for most of them.

    Still, I quite like DQ and Spain actually sound like they've made an effort this year but what is it with Germany? Last year country and western, this year jazz!!

    I have absolutely no idea who is going to win this year.

    Its the semi finals on Thursday evening and will be shown BBC3 at 8pm.
  • Moonraker 5Moonraker 5 Ayrshire, ScotlandPosts: 1,821MI6 Agent
    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/6624377.stm

    Well, I've not heard any of the entries this year (not even Scooch in it's entirity), but out of these, the Ukranian drag queen has just got to win. Lyrics such as this are class:

    Hello everybody!
    My name is Verka Serdyuchka
    Me English don't understand!
    Let's speak DANCE!

    Seven, seven, ai lyu lyu
    Seven, seven, one, two
    Seven, seven, ai lyu lyu
    One, two, three!


    But the look alone is really a winner...

    [img=http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/42753000/jpg/_42753699_serduchka203.jpg]Looks like the usual car crash of European melodies though, looking forward to it! :D[/img]
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  • Moonraker 5Moonraker 5 Ayrshire, ScotlandPosts: 1,821MI6 Agent
    edited May 2007
    Now, I know that someone at the BBC is taking some of these Eurovision entries waaaaaaaay too seriously, but this description the Belarusian entry (Work Your Magic by Koldun) really just takes the preverbial pee...

    "Work Your Magic is a pop song with an orchestral flourish which has all the makings of a James Bond theme."

    Considering this a song sung by someone who won Factory of The Stars (Belarus' own version of The X Factor) and written by a Russian lyricist who failed to win in 2006, I'm finding that statement a little hard to take seriously.
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  • Lady RoseLady Rose London,UKPosts: 2,667MI6 Agent
    Now, I know that someone at the BBC is taking some of these Eurovision entries waaaaaaaay too seriously, but this description the Belarusian entry (Work Your Magic by Koldun) really just takes the preverbial pee...

    "Work Your Magic is a pop song with an orchestral flourish which has all the makings of a James Bond theme."

    Considering this a song sung by someone who won Factory of The Stars (Belarus' own version of The X Factor) and written by a Russian lyricist who failed to win in 2006, I'm finding that statement a little hard to take seriously.

    Actually .... when I first heard it I thought it started off quite Bondian too ;%

    There are soooo many ripoffs this year. Apart from most sounding like some Bon Jovi/ Jim Steinman effort, Switzerland's Vampire thing sounds like the beginning of Star Wars ( :s ) and Sweden have managed to produce a song that sounds like Bay City Rollers meets Wizard!!

    Whilst the Ukraine undeniable win hands down for most bizarre Act/Lyrics/Song , I'm going for a win for Denmark.

    ( As a side note, I have the album on ITunes and under genre it say 'unclassifiable' which seems quite appropriate :)) )
  • jetsetwillyjetsetwilly Liverpool, UKPosts: 1,048MI6 Agent
    No Switzerland or Denmark! Surely a sign of rationality creeping into Eurovision - is this good?
    Founder of the Wint & Kidd Appreciation Society.

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  • s96024s96024 Posts: 1,519MI6 Agent
    The ukranian entry was on Graham Norton's show last night. Along with Scooch and someone else. I'm not sure whether people are voting for the best or the worst act. It's a load of pointless rubbish imo and all the voting generally has nothing to do with the quality of the act but how much the other countrys like each other. Unfortunately we are quite disliked hennce we will probably get nil point again.
  • Lady RoseLady Rose London,UKPosts: 2,667MI6 Agent
    Lady Rose wrote:
    .... I'm going for a win for Denmark.

    Famous last words :))

    I cant believe Denmark and Switzerland are both out. :o

    This,apparently, is the running order for the final:-


    1. Bosnia-Herzegovina
    2. Spain
    3. Belarus
    4. Ireland
    5. Finland
    6. FYR Macedonia
    7. Slovenia
    8. Hungary
    9. Lithuania
    10. Greece
    11. Georgia
    12. Sweden
    13. France
    14. Latvia
    15. Russia
    16. Germany
    17. Serbia
    18. Ukraine
    19. United Kingdom
    20. Romania
    21. Bulgaria
    22. Turkey
    23. Armenia
    24. Moldova
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