Perhaps the OP Jeep being 'bland' or 'less than exciting' might've been a better description in terms of comparison?
How about this: a bland but acceptable model of a bland but acceptable vehicle (if somewhat odd in manufacturing arrangement IRL). I completely agree a WWII Willys would certainly be justified. As would I think the Scaldia-Volga. Not because I can't live without it or anything remotely like that, but simply because, well...look at the pictures (sorry I put links to them).
there's already been plenty of less deserving repetition in the series - 2 similar Rollers, similar Daimler & XJ8, 2 similar late model Range Rovers........
So, basicly, what you're saying is "we've already had 3 poorly recieved similar cars, let's ask IXO for a fourth one?" ?:)
Besides, with the exception of the Range Rovers, the other models were only repetitions because of a poor execution:
The Rolls Royce should have had different wheels and colour and was a different model year,
and the daimler and XJ8 have completely different front and rear ends, interiors and so on, but it was just screwed up by UH.
Don't get me wrong, I like the idea and with IXO at the wheel i'm sure the model will turn out great, but i ám quite afraid we will get just a jeep standing on a piece of road instead of Bond and Oddjob in the back...
there's already been plenty of less deserving repetition in the series - 2 similar Rollers, similar Daimler & XJ8, 2 similar late model Range Rovers........
So, basicly, what you're saying is "we've already had 3 poorly recieved similar cars, let's ask IXO for a fourth one?" ?:)
Besides, with the exception of the Range Rovers, the other models were only repetitions because of a poor execution:
The Rolls Royce should have had different wheels and colour and was a different model year,
and the daimler and XJ8 have completely different front and rear ends, interiors and so on, but it was just screwed up by UH.
Don't get me wrong, I like the idea and with IXO at the wheel i'm sure the model will turn out great, but i ám quite afraid we will get just a jeep standing on a piece of road instead of Bond and Oddjob in the back...
No, what I'm saying is that IMHO there is more justification for a second Jeep model than there was for the repetition of the other examples. The OP Jeep was a post-war Mahindra, made in India, whereas the WW2 Willys as seen in GF was made in the USA by a different company and was a distinctly different animal, an icon. Again, look at the comparison photo I posted, the difference between them goes beyond superficial differences by the same car manufacturer - US military livery and field equipment for a start. It's a bit like the difference between coffee made fresh with beans or a mug of instant from a jar.
Also, it comes from one of the best all-time classic Bond movies and I think would make an excellent companion piece to the GF WW2 Dodge Ambulance.
great looking car, but what kind of possible use is this? Largo just parks it and walks away! what a rip-off!
As you can tell I am deeply, dééply dissapointed by GE-Fabbri!
First they tell us that "by popular demand" they will continue, only to give us a car that
A ) was seen for less than 30 seconds, and
B ) exept for the front end, already featured in this EXACT colour/roof/wheel combination!
I'm afraid that when they said "popular demand" they meant the demand for more money coming from the CEO of GEFabbri
First they tell us that "by popular demand" they will continue, only to give us a car that
A ) was seen for less than 30 seconds, and
B ) exept for the front end, already featured in this EXACT colour/roof/wheel combination!
It's worse, actually. A lot worse. They DIDN'T change the front end. Instead, they screened on the slightly different trim (the ducts just fore of the doors and the word "Thunderbird" being replaced by the bird-shaped logo), added European number plates, and removed any figures. There is absolutely NO OTHER DIFFERENCE between this car and the GF T-Bird. The grille looks completely identical when it should be the single-largest difference on the car. The car is NOT a good model...it's a 1964 T-Bird with 1965 trim. Here's IMCDB's entry on the car CLEARLY showing a different grille (note the four big vertical slats)...
Hopefully this is the only model they do from UH. Absolutely ridiculous. With that being said, it may not be 111 since UH models tend to show up extra-early. It also may be Issue 111...the note says that one more model would be released before everything resumed normal functioning. Given that UH is still contractually obligated to fill Fabbri's orders for replacements and SUCH minimal change was made to this car (and they're still likely pumping out GF T-Birds as replacement models), it could be a place-holder...i.e. until Ixo gets their act together, they throw this out at us to buy Ixo EVEN MORE time. I'm REALLY HOPING that's the scenario here. Because not only is it a wasted issue, it's also a poor model and it is NOT how it appeared in the film.
Coincedently I just watched TB this evening. If what you are saying is true then this is such a disappointment. It maybe better in the flesh fingers crossed. Watching the movie there are a number of cars vehicles not listed in our wish list. Opening scene another hearse and truck carrying flowers. In Paris the car no2 arrives in. The RAF staff car , a ford zodiac . At the clinic there was a stunning red e type jag.
I mention the jag for two reasons a) I love jags b) it deserves a place as it features just as much in a movie as much as our infamous Ford Anglia. Also a nice open top triumph herald. At the airbase a nice selection of RAf vehicles tending the Vulcan
. What about the Vulcan , I know not a car but even in 1:144 scale what a special!!!
Lastly ( sorry for multi posts but still experiencing an ip
Ban!!, so can only write short paragraphs on the iPhone). I would like to nominate the mercedes ambulance as the best model in the collection so far. Seeing it again in the movie makes you realise how good it has been captured as a model. So going back to the spirit of this thread any other nominations. ??
Well, firstly, all good suggestions, although I would say that the Triumph Herald Roadster is the best you mentioned. I'm still planning on buying a white metal kit of that car...unless Ixo does it or Universal Hobbies has some kind of miraculous turnaround and does a fantastic job on it.
But regarding this quote...I'm afraid it won't be. KINGsMODEL sells the finished product. He's a VERY different dealer than the other Hong Kong guys (nicknamed "pilferers" on the Russian board I go to...that's as close a translation as one can get) in that he doesn't sell quality control rejects. I'm not sure where he gets his cars, but they are 100% finished and the final product.
Just went on my laptop and had a better look on the bigger screen via ebay. Ok it's not the best but it's by no means the worst we have had. As I said it might be better in the flesh.
Just a thought 2013 is the sixtieth anniversary of bond coupled with bond 23 in 2012 then this collection may well get extended again to conclude in this diamond anniversary year with a special commemorative mag and 60th anniversary issue. Another db5 would be the traditional route but any other contenders what about bonds 1933 bentley as featured in the first book? Any other suggestions also looking for your all time favourite model of the collection ... So far ? Just reminder I think the mercedes ambulance from TB is the best.
The 50th anniversary of Bond films by EON/Danjaq is 2012 - Dr. No went on circuit in the UK from 6 October 1962, although it only reached other markets (such as the USA) the following year (thanks IMDb ).
Sorry Diecast007, I was born in the 60s so the maths is easier for me B-)
About two weeks ago when we were still discussing a possible reboot of the collection, before the extension was confirmed, I had suggested that a reboot could be tied to the half-century anniversary. It's certainly an event that all of us here will be expecting something significant from in terms of memorabilia! (I'm hoping for a proper extension of the Ultimate DVD Collection into the DC era...)
The recycling of the GF Thunderbird into the TB Thunderbird seems to extend to the diorama base as well - I'm pretty sure that's just a repainted version of the one Felix's car was supplied on!
No need to stop discussing possible mould recycles here as I'm sure GEF is way ahead of all of us in that department!! - so the person who wanted a YOLT or TSWLM Mini Moke is probably going to get their wish :v
Silly me ! I also was born the sixties. Just overlooked the first bond film. Even more reason to extend the collection then not just this extention but beyond.
great looking car, but what kind of possible use is this? Largo just parks it and walks away! what a rip-off!
As you can tell I am deeply, dééply dissapointed by GE-Fabbri!
First they tell us that "by popular demand" they will continue, only to give us a car that
A ) was seen for less than 30 seconds, and
B ) exept for the front end, already featured in this EXACT colour/roof/wheel combination!
I'm afraid that when they said "popular demand" they meant the demand for more money coming from the CEO of GEFabbri
So, basicly, what you're saying is "we've already had 3 poorly recieved similar cars, let's ask IXO for a fourth one?" ?:)
D110 and other IXO-"experts", please close your lips about any other sugestions about mould-sharing, it just seems to give them ideas
What was I saying about 'less deserving repetition'? - proves the point in this case!!!!
I seriously think Fabbri are having a laugh with this one, l would rather have seen a non-gadget standard DB5 than this. Ooops!! We weren't supposed to give them ideas, were we?!!
Could it be some sort of contractual obligation 'left over' from Fabbri's deal with UH by any chance? Like UH had to produce a certain number and couldn't come up with a better idea?
Well, firstly, all good suggestions, although I would say that the Triumph Herald Roadster is the best you mentioned. I'm still planning on buying a white metal kit of that car...unless Ixo does it or Universal Hobbies has some kind of miraculous turnaround and does a fantastic job on it.
If you're after a 1:43 die-cast open Herald, how about this one?
......could be Bond's car in 23, what do you reckon?
I don't remember seeing the Thunderbird on our wish list? If this a indication of the way the extension is going, then is it worth carrying on?Must admit I'am very disappointed,if this is all we have to look forward too.Its a nice car,but It hardly captures the imagination,just remove the film title from the case,and It becomes just another American car model,which I would'nt buy in a model shop.A pointless release,if this indeed is No111.
- Baseplate turned 180*
- different licence plates,
- thunderbird logo instead of T H U N D E R B I R D
- fake air vents instead of thunderbird-emblems
- the antenna-base is painted black.
- figures removed.
- Baseplate turned 180*
- different licence plates,
- thunderbird logo instead of T H U N D E R B I R D
- fake air vents instead of thunderbird-emblems
- the antenna-base is painted black.
- figures removed.
...and they swept the street. Do you think the Goldfinger caption is still printed on the other side of the base?
my god you all moan that you want more cars ,then when you get them you moan about them. i would of been happy to finish at 110 but some of you wanted more, even one's that are in the movie for 30 seconds. enjoy spending your money and getting 20 rubbish cars or maybe more ? . i have cancelled my order as i feel they are taking advantage of us.
Exactly. Móre cars, not the same car with a different movie title slapped on it. Therefore, we shall moan.
Bingo. By the way, I honestly think that this was the only mould UH could come up with to fill the gap until Ixo could get production restarted (which we know they need time to do...just check out the two hearses and the lag times between the models in the 90's that alternated between UH and Ixo).
The other one I'm going to say "this wouldn't make sense" on is Largo's T-Bird from Thunderball. Okay, why, you ask? Simple: with a change of license plates, you get...Felix Leiter's T-Bird from GF in the literal exact same colors with the only difference being slightly wider grille slats. And of course, that's been done. I want to see new stuff, as I'm sure all of you do. Was it a nice model when we already had it? Yeah. But making it twice? Just...no. It's such an easy Code 3...EVEN with a diorama (use one of the Ixo pavement dioramas with a printout background inside the case)...that I just would prefer not to see this one.
Except they didn't even bother with wider grille slats...
And then there's my post #3285 (in response to an excellent explanation by FACT about UH re-manufacturing batches of cars) which I think explains the means and also why we didn't see Ixo making 111...
Thanks again, FACT! I did know UH was contractually obligated to replace damaged or defective models, even after the bad blood between them and Fabbri. I now agree that clause extended beyond damaged/defective models to countries where the JBCC is either behind or needs to replenish its stocks of extras. I also suppose this is why they were able to get #110 produced by UH; i.e. "you still have the moulds for a good car, so why not make an alteration?"
Dear Fabbri,
Cease and desist interpreting THESE theories as marketing ideas. My wishlist might be better. James John Smythe's is pretty awesome too, and so is MovieCarFan's. Also, stick to Ixo, since I know you're going back to them anyway, who would have at least given us the CORRECT GRILLE as well as REAL air vents.
Regards,
Dalkowski110
P.S. PLEASE USE IXO TO MAKE DRACO'S ROLLS-ROYCE IF PLANNED! I have a bad feeling I think I know what it would look like if UH made it.
But that's exactly my point: it's not. The (very prominent) air vents built into the body on the real car are screened on (and not well). The grille and the trim are the wrong years for one another, too. I admit that this is my favorite generation T-Bird and I'm a detail freak about it, but the air vents and vertical grille slats really are prominent. Take a look here for a HUGE photo that shows the model's deficiencies...
Re issue 111 if that is what we get we may have another 'anglia' this time correct diorama wrong car?? I am not going to cancel my subscription as I am enjoying the collection but please gefabbri don't take your subscribers for granted we have stuck by you , stick by us and give us decent product. It may cost you more in the long run with a rerun with the correct car and or replacements and or refunds
Normally I only ask a replacement if a model is seriousely damaged( Cadillac hearse had the bottom plate of the car snapped in half, cars with major paint flaws etc.), but I am planning on asking for a second one of this to correct the grille etc. Usually i'd take the car that they sent to me the first time and then buy one of a friend for only a few quid but i'm not gonna "pay for their mistake" in that way.
Comments
How about this: a bland but acceptable model of a bland but acceptable vehicle (if somewhat odd in manufacturing arrangement IRL). I completely agree a WWII Willys would certainly be justified. As would I think the Scaldia-Volga. Not because I can't live without it or anything remotely like that, but simply because, well...look at the pictures (sorry I put links to them).
So, basicly, what you're saying is "we've already had 3 poorly recieved similar cars, let's ask IXO for a fourth one?" ?:)
Besides, with the exception of the Range Rovers, the other models were only repetitions because of a poor execution:
The Rolls Royce should have had different wheels and colour and was a different model year,
and the daimler and XJ8 have completely different front and rear ends, interiors and so on, but it was just screwed up by UH.
Don't get me wrong, I like the idea and with IXO at the wheel i'm sure the model will turn out great, but i ám quite afraid we will get just a jeep standing on a piece of road instead of Bond and Oddjob in the back...
LOL! Sounds fine to me
No, what I'm saying is that IMHO there is more justification for a second Jeep model than there was for the repetition of the other examples. The OP Jeep was a post-war Mahindra, made in India, whereas the WW2 Willys as seen in GF was made in the USA by a different company and was a distinctly different animal, an icon. Again, look at the comparison photo I posted, the difference between them goes beyond superficial differences by the same car manufacturer - US military livery and field equipment for a start. It's a bit like the difference between coffee made fresh with beans or a mug of instant from a jar.
Also, it comes from one of the best all-time classic Bond movies and I think would make an excellent companion piece to the GF WW2 Dodge Ambulance.
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=250868747487
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=130558727325
KINGsMODEL notes it as a Universal Hobbies model.
great looking car, but what kind of possible use is this? Largo just parks it and walks away! what a rip-off!
As you can tell I am deeply, dééply dissapointed by GE-Fabbri!
First they tell us that "by popular demand" they will continue, only to give us a car that
A ) was seen for less than 30 seconds, and
B ) exept for the front end, already featured in this EXACT colour/roof/wheel combination!
I'm afraid that when they said "popular demand" they meant the demand for more money coming from the CEO of GEFabbri
Shame on them...
[EDIT]
D110 and other IXO-"experts", please close your lips about any other sugestions about mould-sharing, it just seems to give them ideas
It's worse, actually. A lot worse. They DIDN'T change the front end. Instead, they screened on the slightly different trim (the ducts just fore of the doors and the word "Thunderbird" being replaced by the bird-shaped logo), added European number plates, and removed any figures. There is absolutely NO OTHER DIFFERENCE between this car and the GF T-Bird. The grille looks completely identical when it should be the single-largest difference on the car. The car is NOT a good model...it's a 1964 T-Bird with 1965 trim. Here's IMCDB's entry on the car CLEARLY showing a different grille (note the four big vertical slats)...
http://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_19079-Ford-Thunderbird-1965.html
Hopefully this is the only model they do from UH. Absolutely ridiculous. With that being said, it may not be 111 since UH models tend to show up extra-early. It also may be Issue 111...the note says that one more model would be released before everything resumed normal functioning. Given that UH is still contractually obligated to fill Fabbri's orders for replacements and SUCH minimal change was made to this car (and they're still likely pumping out GF T-Birds as replacement models), it could be a place-holder...i.e. until Ixo gets their act together, they throw this out at us to buy Ixo EVEN MORE time. I'm REALLY HOPING that's the scenario here. Because not only is it a wasted issue, it's also a poor model and it is NOT how it appeared in the film.
. What about the Vulcan , I know not a car but even in 1:144 scale what a special!!!
Ban!!, so can only write short paragraphs on the iPhone). I would like to nominate the mercedes ambulance as the best model in the collection so far. Seeing it again in the movie makes you realise how good it has been captured as a model. So going back to the spirit of this thread any other nominations. ??
Well, firstly, all good suggestions, although I would say that the Triumph Herald Roadster is the best you mentioned. I'm still planning on buying a white metal kit of that car...unless Ixo does it or Universal Hobbies has some kind of miraculous turnaround and does a fantastic job on it.
But regarding this quote...I'm afraid it won't be. KINGsMODEL sells the finished product. He's a VERY different dealer than the other Hong Kong guys (nicknamed "pilferers" on the Russian board I go to...that's as close a translation as one can get) in that he doesn't sell quality control rejects. I'm not sure where he gets his cars, but they are 100% finished and the final product.
Sorry Diecast007, I was born in the 60s so the maths is easier for me B-)
About two weeks ago when we were still discussing a possible reboot of the collection, before the extension was confirmed, I had suggested that a reboot could be tied to the half-century anniversary. It's certainly an event that all of us here will be expecting something significant from in terms of memorabilia! (I'm hoping for a proper extension of the Ultimate DVD Collection into the DC era...)
The recycling of the GF Thunderbird into the TB Thunderbird seems to extend to the diorama base as well - I'm pretty sure that's just a repainted version of the one Felix's car was supplied on!
No need to stop discussing possible mould recycles here as I'm sure GEF is way ahead of all of us in that department!! - so the person who wanted a YOLT or TSWLM Mini Moke is probably going to get their wish :v
Just noticed,the cars are facing different directions..
What was I saying about 'less deserving repetition'? - proves the point in this case!!!!
I seriously think Fabbri are having a laugh with this one, l would rather have seen a non-gadget standard DB5 than this. Ooops!! We weren't supposed to give them ideas, were we?!!
Could it be some sort of contractual obligation 'left over' from Fabbri's deal with UH by any chance? Like UH had to produce a certain number and couldn't come up with a better idea?
If you're after a 1:43 die-cast open Herald, how about this one?
......could be Bond's car in 23, what do you reckon?
Modifications:
- Baseplate turned 180*
- different licence plates,
- thunderbird logo instead of T H U N D E R B I R D
- fake air vents instead of thunderbird-emblems
- the antenna-base is painted black.
- figures removed.
...and they swept the street. Do you think the Goldfinger caption is still printed on the other side of the base?
Truth be told i wouldn't be suprised
Ok - try your home pc again...but I suggest you stay well clear of your alter-ego...
Exactly. Móre cars, not the same car with a different movie title slapped on it. Therefore, we shall moan.
Bingo. By the way, I honestly think that this was the only mould UH could come up with to fill the gap until Ixo could get production restarted (which we know they need time to do...just check out the two hearses and the lag times between the models in the 90's that alternated between UH and Ixo).
From me, post #3209 (July 29, 2011)
Except they didn't even bother with wider grille slats...
And then there's my post #3285 (in response to an excellent explanation by FACT about UH re-manufacturing batches of cars) which I think explains the means and also why we didn't see Ixo making 111...
Dear Fabbri,
Cease and desist interpreting THESE theories as marketing ideas. My wishlist might be better. James John Smythe's is pretty awesome too, and so is MovieCarFan's. Also, stick to Ixo, since I know you're going back to them anyway, who would have at least given us the CORRECT GRILLE as well as REAL air vents.
Regards,
Dalkowski110
P.S. PLEASE USE IXO TO MAKE DRACO'S ROLLS-ROYCE IF PLANNED! I have a bad feeling I think I know what it would look like if UH made it.
But that's exactly my point: it's not. The (very prominent) air vents built into the body on the real car are screened on (and not well). The grille and the trim are the wrong years for one another, too. I admit that this is my favorite generation T-Bird and I'm a detail freak about it, but the air vents and vertical grille slats really are prominent. Take a look here for a HUGE photo that shows the model's deficiencies...
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/7/78/1965_Ford_Thunderbird_Convertible.jpg