I too have had the letter mentioning the change in delivery schedule etc. What I don't get though is the fact that this collection has been going on for around 3 years and in the last 10 issues, they have chosen to double the delivery time.
To me, that's really odd. If I were a publisher, I would keep the timings the same right until the last model - especially given the time the collection has been running. It would also provide a golden opportunity to keep/ encourage some of us to join the 1.8 scale db5 band wagon - there will be a small overlap so perhaps some flyers advertising that this collection is coming to an end, however the db5 one is just beginning etc...
I have a feeling that this delivery every 8 weeks malarky will go tits up. The last couple of collector series I have had from fabbri have ended in a similar manner and I have really had to fight to ensure I got my final models. Fingers crossed this one doesn't end like that
At last!! A mention of tits in this thread!
How many tits are we talking about?
I had my 98/99 + letter delivered on 1st Nov. I wonder whether (i.e. I hope) they're extending the timescale in case a new Bond film comes out ... then maybe add some more models? I reckon there's almost another year to go with an 8 week delivery interval. Have been looking at the Bond23 forum on ajb007 (the next film) and it doesn't sound at all promising for a 2011 release.
Or maybe they are getting other countries caught up with the UK?
hello everyone i am a virgin on this site,but have been reading it for a long time. i am up to issue 99. i phoned the company today asking why they have decided to send out the cars every 8 weeks. i asked if it was because they were trying to stretch the collection out for a new movie. the guy said that the company who make the cars have gone bust and they have been looking for another company to do them. make your own minds up if it's true.
the guy said that the company who make the cars have gone bust and they have been looking for another company to do them. make your own minds up if it's true.
Might explain why the remaining vehicles are nothing special and why there's a delay in shipping for some subscribers.
the guy said that the company who make the cars have gone bust and they have been looking for another company to do them. make your own minds up if it's true.
Might explain why the remaining vehicles are nothing special and why there's a delay in shipping for some subscribers.
So if the company that made the cars is no more !!!, then it looks like we are F**ked for the replacement Anglia???? -{ :007)
that's a good point. I am convinced they are prolonging it for another reason,my guess is that they are hoping a new movie gets made in the near future,but that does not seem on the cards. 2cars every 8 weeks = 10months takes longer than that to make a movie. think i got the time right???????
I can't honestly believe that Fabbri would stretch out the release date just on the off-chance they can sell a few more cars based on a movie that isn't even in production.
I could see them doing a second but shorter series that would include new movie cars plus some of those they missed. But I wouldn't start looking for that for at least another 3 - 4 years and even then it would be completely dependent of whether or not they found a manufacturer.
My thoughts? 110 and that's it. Sit back and hope that Corgi starts taking Bond cars seriously again.
I can't honestly believe that Fabbri would stretch out the release date just on the off-chance they can sell a few more cars based on a movie that isn't even in production.
I could see them doing a second but shorter series that would include new movie cars plus some of those they missed. But I wouldn't start looking for that for at least another 3 - 4 years and even then it would be completely dependent of whether or not they found a manufacturer.
My thoughts? 110 and that's it. Sit back and hope that Corgi starts taking Bond cars seriously again.
Jim
Doesn't makes sense stretching out the remainder for any of the reasons above. If the company has gone bust you would expect the collection to conclude unfinished unless it has been taken over in which case the remaining models would be honoured. This would also suggest the DB5 collection could be in jeopardy especially with recent press against similar subscription kits in recent years. I am concerned now that the collection will fizzle out not completed and some subscribers could be short changed and not receive missing issues , expected issues etc etc. GE Fabbri I think would be foolish to throw in the towel on this collection as there would be alot of unhappy subscribers who all generate a regular income for this company. In this financial climate and in this fragile market to have a regular income for your product is like printing your own money. Corgi have reduced the run on all their range with some models being cancelled other ranges have simply disappeared.
This collection is a comprehensive list of vehicles as seen in Bond. The product is great value and surely will appreciate in value as time goes by. There have been hits and some misses but overall it's a collection I am proud to own and continue to subscribe to. I hope this is misinformation and maybe a blip that will resolve and we can look forward to additional issues maybe into the release of the next BOND movie. If not let's hope GE fabbri conclude the collection where all subscribers receive all issues on time including the replacement infamous Anglia.
I would even accept a maybe one model a month of a higher value this could then include other larger vehicles( in larger boxes for those that get excited and concerned about box sizes) . Maybe somebody from GE Fabbri could speak on the forum and give us some facts of what the overall plan is . If you are GE Fabbri and read this register and let us the subscrber s know.
I couldn't find anything on the net about UH (Universal Hobbies - the company that's manufactured most of the collection) going bust. I think it's more likely IXO (manufacturers of the hearses etc) have cut a better deal with Fabbri for the production of the remaining models but at a slower delivery rate as derekaustralia says, hence 8 weeks instead of 4. Could be wrong but that's business for you.
"...the purposeful slant of his striding figure looked dangerous, as if he was making quickly for something bad that was happening further down the street." -SMERSH on 007 dossier photo, Ch. 6 FRWL.....
Found this also on ebay . Chevrolet Impala from live and let die . Ten issues away 109!!! So don't understand why we now have to wait eight weeks between each double issue. Obviously the collection is marketed as ATLAS so stock is readily available. The model looks fantastic though, if anything good to see alot of chat on here.
Found this also on ebay . Chevrolet Impala from live and let die . Ten issues away 109!!! So don't understand why we now have to wait eight weeks between each double issue. Obviously the collection is marketed as ATLAS so stock is readily available. The model looks fantastic though, if anything good to see alot of chat on here.
Sorry, but the Impala pictured is #54 (Live and Let Die - Chevy Impala - Bond driving with Rosie Carver in the forest) and not #109, the impending Chevy Impala Custom Coupe.
As far as Atlas goes, this article might clarify things.
Atlas is just a French magazine publisher - much like GE Fabbri. Their collection vehicles are made by Universal Hobbies, IXO and Norev. Which explains why Atlas vehicles look so much like GE Fabbri's product.
Found this also on ebay . Chevrolet Impala from live and let die . Ten issues away 109!!! So don't understand why we now have to wait eight weeks between each double issue. Obviously the collection is marketed as ATLAS so stock is readily available. The model looks fantastic though, if anything good to see alot of chat on here.
Sorry, but the Impala pictured is #54 (Live and Let Die - Chevy Impala - Bond driving with Rosie Carver in the forest) and not #109, the impending Chevy Impala Custom Coupe.
As far as Atlas goes, this article might clarify things.
Atlas is just a French magazine publisher - much like GE Fabbri. Their collection vehicles are made by Universal Hobbies, IXO and Norev. Which explains why Atlas vehicles look so much like GE Fabbri's product.
Jim
OH MAN! Did it again! Apologies folks need to look at older issues keep spotting issues and getting all excited that it is a new edition . Thanks Jim.
Hello folks! I'm completely new here, but not to the collection. As a diorama maker and hardcore collector of 1/43 scale cars (Brooklin, Western Models, Impire/Zuagg), plus a fan of the movie Bond (I've just started buying the books, though), I think it was natural that I gravitated to this series. Ironically, I've taken all the models off their display stands and put them on my O-gauge model train layout. I've altered a few models in minor ways, as well. I live in the US and as such, eBay.co.uk is my friend here. To be honest, as someone who has purchased plenty of non-Bond Ixo and non-Bond Universal Hobbies, I would say that Ixo/Altaya has been better in my experience, especially with regards to staying more true to 1/43 scale.
With the remaining cars, I would imagine Ixo does the following:
-They use their existing mould for the Crown Vic. That's issue 100.
-Issue 101 and 102 will be CUB1 and the Bondola. Because of an existing contract, these could be done by UH.
-Issue 103 is the ZIL-117. I'm convinced of this. Ixo does two magazine series...USSR AvtoLegende (USSR Auto Legends) and Kultowe Auta PRL (Cult Automobiles of the Polish Socialist Republic) in which they do cars from all over the East Bloc. Since they've already done a ZIL-114 for both (it will be coming out for Kultowe Auta PRL, but hasn't yet), it should be pretty easy to make a ZIL-117, which is just a short wheel base version. The ZIL someone pictured above is a ZIL-41047; that's not at all like the 114 or 117, which was a knockoff of a Lincoln, not a Chrysler. Here's a 114 for you made by Ixo...
(Nearest the camera; the one further away is a ZIL-111G viewed from the rear...note that this image is not mine)
I wouldn't be surprised if Ixo uses the Bond car as an excuse to make a 117 for AvtoLegende and Kultowe Auta (since I believe it already has a 117 planned for AvtoLegende).
As for a Ford Consul, Ford Country Squire, Ford Bronco II, and Ford Econoline, Ixo doesn't have moulds it could either buy or share yet. Hence the 4-extra-week delay. They could do some mould-sharing with UH for the other Silver Shadow II and the damaged DBS, but again, I see them needing to make their own mould for a '73 Chevy. I see the order in which the models are released being potentially reshuffled (a la what they did with Kultowe Auta PRL...early in the series, they got a ton of Soviet cars made in different colors with different license plates and pushed back a great many of the other East Bloc vehicles because they could simultaneously release for USSR AvtoLegende) and possibly, *if* they can't do a car, then I could see them doing the Lada Niva from TWINE. Why? Because Ixo has already done no less than five variants of the Lada Niva (USSR AvtoLegende, Kultowe Auta PRL, Ist Models, Ist Models for Cars & Company Volkspolizei [East German police], and the highly-detailed VMM Models St. Tropez model) and they already have the moulds. I'm not saying expect it, but I am saying that if they fail to come out with a model, this one probably takes its place.
They may bump up the Silver Shadow II from LTK to have time to get their act together regarding the Ford Consul and Ford Country Squire, though I doubt they'd bump up the DBS, if for symbolic reasons only. Also, expect the Ixo models to have either fewer figures or no figures at all. Thus far, only the Range Rover Convertible has been made by Ixo and had a figure.
Please note that this is just my speculation and stems from other magazine series cars I've collected and I'm looking forward to the models coming out.
Thank you for such an excellent post. It makes a lot of sense for a large number of reasons. I also collect other models, and the Soviet and Polish 1:43 ranges are interesting - thank you for pointing these out. I like the FSO and the Tatra models.
I would say that despite the omission of some obvious cars - such as the Lincoln MkVII from Licence to Kill - and the not so great models - the wrong type of Jaguar for Quantum of Solace , the horrible Living Daylights Aston Volante with the strange and incorrect rear end, and the distinctly average Ford GT40 from Die Another Day - this collection has transformed the ability of Bond fans to collect models of the cars in the films. The price represents value, and most of the cars have not been modelled well in the past, and certainly not to a common scale, if at all. The magazines are effectively thrown in for free, and they are worth at least something on their own. Compared to model cars available as recently as the late 1990s these cars are detailed and inexpensive. The Chinese production techniques have progressed a long way in the last 15 years.
I would be very interested to see how the cars look on your O gauge railway - I have an HO railway with 1:87 Herpa cars on, and the train/ car collecting is very interesting. If you have time, perhaps you could post some?
Why sure! Here are some before I re-did my layout.
Orumov's GAZ-31029 (altered so there's some poor political prisoner next Orumov) and Orlov's Mercedes-Benz (altered with tires and eventually I added Yugoslavian military license plates, since they really DID use Mercedes-Benz general officer's cars) show up on my "commie compound's" VIP car section.
Not at all obvious due to the poor way in which I took the photo, but the Czech Verjena Bezpechnost Lada 1500 is hanging by its rear bumper, ripped in half after a collission with a GAZ-13 Chaika.
The DN 1957 Chevy Bel Air, now property of the CIA. I later re-did the license plates to Washington, D.C. plates.
The GF 1964 Lincoln Continental parked at the station, a "red cap" unloading or perhaps loading luggage out of the open trunk/boot.
At far left, you can see Blofeld's Merc 600 SWB from OHMSS. I'm actually in the process of modding this into a Japanese diplomatic car (just replacing the figures).
Here's one where I caught the LALD San Monique Police Car in the background of a Russian Nationalist Parade (my layout, as all layouts do, exists within its own world. Mine is rather dystopian and features a very evil Soviet Union on consistent brink of the Cold War going hot with a substantial Russian Nationalist movement that frankly isn't much better, but at least is willing to cooperate with NATO).
In the background, you can see the Leyland Sherpa Telephone Van from TSWLM doing exactly what it was designed for: being parked next to a guy performing maintenance on a damaged telephone pole. There are currently no figures in the front seats, though I plan to make a telephone repairman and it's a work in progress.
Russian Nationalist DPS Police Car (GAZ-2402 Volga Station Wagon) helping the CIA spy on the Soviets. Unfortunately shot without the two Nationalist Militsia figures and the one CIA figure who crammed into Felix's T-Bird's rear seat.
The Binz Europ Ambulance following a three-car crash. Note medical attendant.
The second car in the Soviet military convoy on the Communist Compound is Red Grant's Citroen Traction Avant from FRWL. By the way, I took measurements of this car and it doesn't match up to the movie's 11CV. Rather, it's the smaller 7CV...which did indeed show up in Yugoslavia and even Bulgaria following WWII.
Here's one I did for REALLY dark humor. The GAZ-13 Chaika is KGB and has been pulled over by West German Police. Open up the trunk, and TA-DA! Dead body in garbage bag (lousy Soviet garbage bag broke, allowing you to see his leg). KGB personnel about to get arrested. Since the Le Salle Miller Combination Coach from DN was NOT a true hearse (but, as its name suggests, something that could be an ambulance, a hearse, a coroner's automobile, or even a light bus!) I chose to use it in the role of coroner's automobile here.
The three-way crash that the Binz Europ Ambulance had stopped for. Tracy's Mercury Cougar from OHMSS and Tilly Masterson's Mustang from GF are two of the participants, while the third is a wrecked Simca 9 Aronde from the popular "La Route Bleu" series from France (which I've also gotten a lot of use out of).
The Daimler Limousine from CR. I've been toying with the idea to paint over the hotel logos (since I found a matching, glossy-black paint color and can airbrush it on), since I make it rather obvious on top of the hotel that it's mafia-run and this is the don's personal limo (note hitman's falling-apart Sunbeam Alpine right behind it and, as part of road traffic, the Mini Moke from LALD).
I have MANY others on the layout, but these were the only photos I have uploaded as of now. I could of course add more, showing the progress of both the cars and the layout.
"and the not so great models - the wrong type of Jaguar for Quantum of Solace , the horrible Living Daylights Aston Volante with the strange and incorrect rear end, and the distinctly average Ford GT40 from Die Another Day"
To me, the most disappointing model was the GF 1965 Ford Falcon Ranchero driven by Oddjob. The roof dimensions of that thing look REALLY bad. Regardless, I do have it and feature it somewhat prominently on my layout. Another gaffe was mentioned above: the Citroen Traction Avant from TSWLM is a Traction 11CV in the film. The Soviets wouldn't really have had much access to this car, ironically, especially if they didn't care about secrecy. Ironically, the model is a Traction 7CV (and a very good one at that)...exported to both Yugoslavia and Bulgaria after WWII and something you'd expect the Soviets to get their hands on. Franz Sanchez's Maserati Biturbo from LTK is also missing the aftermarket spoiler on the trunk lid/boot lid.
Dalkowski, that is a wonderful wonderful layout! Thank you for taking the time to upload the pictures.
I found this theme extremely amusing Quote : (rather dystopian and features a very evil Soviet Union on consistent brink of the Cold War going hot with a substantial Russian Nationalist movement that frankly isn't much better, but at least is willing to cooperate with NATO) !!! Brilliant. Perhaps you could do a crashed Mig or similar?
First, Napoleon Plural...I actually DO have Kennedy's Lincoln Continental "X-100" Limo on the layout (done by Paul's Model/Minichamps). I had purchased it with the intent of modifying it, but just found the job that Minichamps did to be so good that I adapted...I now have a film crew FILMING a JFK movie! The US President in my dystopic layout is a second term Barry Goldwater. As a bit of a joke, I took Lyndon Johnson's presidential limo (also by Paul's Model/Minichamps), removed anything and everything pertaining to Johnson, and parked it next to my kit-bashed gun shop (replete with US Secret Service personnel). Regardless, as you probably saw (check out the Corgi Jaguar CID car right next to the stopped Chaika), I just took the NATO-member countries, gave them the majority of the layout, and took the communists and them a small but visible and substantial minority.
myhandle...First off, thank you VERY much! I worked rather hard to get my layout the way it is. I have something similar: a T-34 tank turret and some "wrecked" armor with the Soviet star that a US Army officer and a British Army officer are briefing some men in suits about. I had considered a Yak-9 cockpit since it was duplicate of a model I'd already built (ICM 1/48), but ultimately wound up trading the model away. Still, with a MiG-15, that could definitely work. I'll think about that.
And as a general observation, take a close look and you'll find a bunch of Dinky Toys and early Corgi Toys (I know...1/48 as opposed to 1/43, but they have special meaning to me) in those photos.
A nice model, though not my particular cup of tea. The stripe seems to be darker green in real life, but that's really quibbling. Still, it appears 100% correct for a Miami-Dade Crown Vic Interceptor. Let me guess: CUB1 is the next model?
Fascinating, fascinating!
'Thanks a bunch' to the newer guys who have posted over the past couple of days and taken the conversation over some interesting new territory, giving the forum a few new perspectives. It's certainly taken my mind off the collection going 'tits up'!
I find it really interesting to consider the model sourcing strategy that GE Fabbri are pursuing and suspect that it's primarily financially driven. I do often wonder whether 'they' read the posts in this forum ... surely they must?!
It will be an interesting 11 months(?) ahead to see what appears.
... and well said, Diecast007 - I completely agree with your sentiments in post #2080.
Here's another one Ixo has the moulds for that was unfortunately (and inexplicably) left out: the Mercedes-Benz 220S from GF. They made the 220SE convertible coupe variant, plus they could take the sedan body from their W121 180D that they've remade countless times. Again, if I were you, I wouldn't get my hopes up, but they could very easily turn out another, easier-to-make car that happens to be, in my opinion, one of the most iconic "Bond Baddie" cars of all time if one of the other models fizzles.
It's also my belief that the "11-month" thing isn't just a marketing gimmick to milk it for the suspense value. If you think that, you overestimate Ixo's efficiency. I spoke about this at length with a guy collecting the coming-out-slow-as-heck Russian Nash Avtoprom (English: "Our Auto Industy") Series who believed Ixo was just dragging their feet to increase anticipation. I can tell you for a fact that Ixo is behind on their models, and in certain cases WAY behind. I've gotten this second-hand from four different Eastern European dealers with a vested interest in Ist Models, Nash Avtoprom, and VMM/VVM. In fact, if someone just looks at their proposed release schedules for Ist Models vs. when they're actually released, certain models have come out up to *two years* late (the GAZ-13 Chaika, for example, was supposed to be in Ixo's first series and wound up coming out this year.). The irony is, in most cases, they actually have the moulds: you can see their models of the FSO Polonez Caro and Moskvitch 412 that have failed to come out (although the USSR AvtoLegende Moskvitch 412 comes out in a week, I believe). Then there's a series called Medpomosh that they've been trying to release in Russia as a "sister series" to USSR AvtoLegende that features police cars, ambulances, fire brigade vehicles, etc. that was supposed to come out in July. Thus far, they've just started test-marketing the first TWO cars in the series this month. I've had it explained to me by these dealers that they're inadvertently competing with themselves. Nash Avtoprom is competing with USSR AvtoLegende, which is competing with Ist Models, which is competing with VMM/VVM, which is competing with Kultowe Auta, which is competing with Atlas Verlag DDR Modellauto, which are all in turn competing with Ixo Classic, which is in turn competing with Ixo Museum. And then there are the orders they have to fill for dealers. The end result is that ALL of their production lines are slowed down and many models wind up being delayed seemingly forever. In fact, there are likely models we don't even know about that haven't been produced, the moulds of which are just collecting dust because they've gotten pushed back so far.
Bottom line: Ixo could make a good mould and good model in the same time UH could, probably, if they committed themselves to it. But they've got so much else gumming up the works and so much ridiculous internal competition that it *will* actually take six weeks for them to physically come out with a given new model and then one or two weeks to circulate it (or much longer if they're getting off the ground...which is why I think we saw the immense delays with the Cadillac Hearse from DAF and the La Salle Hearse from DN; they seemed to settle in after that).
It's a good diorama, maybe you need some fake foliage in there in the form of bushes and so on. Not sure Tracey's car with skis quite works in that context! Of course, you have to take the cars away from the diorama they originally had, which can be a shame.
I'd have thought the Car Collection would be onto a winner if they created similar dioramas of a smaller scale for certain movies, say the Swiss Alps with the cars on three levels as when Masterton takes a pop at Auric.
Here's another one Ixo has the moulds for that was unfortunately (and inexplicably) left out: the Mercedes-Benz 220S from GF. They made the 220SE convertible coupe variant, plus they could take the sedan body from their W121 180D that they've remade countless times. Again, if I were you, I wouldn't get my hopes up, but they could very easily turn out another, easier-to-make car that happens to be, in my opinion, one of the most iconic "Bond Baddie" cars of all time if one of the other models fizzles.
It's also my belief that the "11-month" thing isn't just a marketing gimmick to milk it for the suspense value. If you think that, you overestimate Ixo's efficiency. I spoke about this at length with a guy collecting the coming-out-slow-as-heck Russian Nash Avtoprom (English: "Our Auto Industy") Series who believed Ixo was just dragging their feet to increase anticipation. I can tell you for a fact that Ixo is behind on their models, and in certain cases WAY behind. I've gotten this second-hand from four different Eastern European dealers with a vested interest in Ist Models, Nash Avtoprom, and VMM/VVM. In fact, if someone just looks at their proposed release schedules for Ist Models vs. when they're actually released, certain models have come out up to *two years* late (the GAZ-13 Chaika, for example, was supposed to be in Ixo's first series and wound up coming out this year.). The irony is, in most cases, they actually have the moulds: you can see their models of the FSO Polonez Caro and Moskvitch 412 that have failed to come out (although the USSR AvtoLegende Moskvitch 412 comes out in a week, I believe). Then there's a series called Medpomosh that they've been trying to release in Russia as a "sister series" to USSR AvtoLegende that features police cars, ambulances, fire brigade vehicles, etc. that was supposed to come out in July. Thus far, they've just started test-marketing the first TWO cars in the series this month. I've had it explained to me by these dealers that they're inadvertently competing with themselves. Nash Avtoprom is competing with USSR AvtoLegende, which is competing with Ist Models, which is competing with VMM/VVM, which is competing with Kultowe Auta, which is competing with Atlas Verlag DDR Modellauto, which are all in turn competing with Ixo Classic, which is in turn competing with Ixo Museum. And then there are the orders they have to fill for dealers. The end result is that ALL of their production lines are slowed down and many models wind up being delayed seemingly forever. In fact, there are likely models we don't even know about that haven't been produced, the moulds of which are just collecting dust because they've gotten pushed back so far.
Bottom line: Ixo could make a good mould and good model in the same time UH could, probably, if they committed themselves to it. But they've got so much else gumming up the works and so much ridiculous internal competition that it *will* actually take six weeks for them to physically come out with a given new model and then one or two weeks to circulate it (or much longer if they're getting off the ground...which is why I think we saw the immense delays with the Cadillac Hearse from DAF and the La Salle Hearse from DN; they seemed to settle in after that).
Great to see someone else has seen the yawning gap left by the omission of the GF Merc. I've been repeating myself over it for ages, even written to Fabbri pleading for it to be included (with no reply).
And if you are correct about Ixo being so slow, I guess that means the collection could carry on into 2012 folks, or 2013, or 2014............................. :v
"It's a good diorama, maybe you need some fake foliage in there in the form of bushes and so on."
I'm still working on foliage. It's been my one issue that has always hampered me. My father does the figure-painting and figure modification for me for free (obviously), usually using Bachmann Plasticville or Preyser 1/48 as a base, and I have a pretty easy time modifying the cars myself. But I've just never gotten the hang of plant life.
"Not sure Tracey's car with skis quite works in that context!"
I completely agree. I've been told that before, incidentally..."great car, good body damage on both sides, but what's with the skis?" As such, I'm tempted to just remove them, though really think they're a nifty detail myself. I don't know. Call me torn on that one.
"And if you are correct about Ixo being so slow, I guess that means the collection could carry on into 2012 folks"
I don't see them going past 2012, but can definitely see them going into it. It all depends on how Ixo decides to classify the Bond Car Collection. The more upscale the model, the longer the time it takes to come out. As such, the less expensive magazine models (USSR AvtoLegende and Kultowe Auta PRL) only tend to be delayed a week or so, if that. The boxed models for general markets (like Ist) can vary widely. Like I said, the Chaika took two years to come out. But then, they've also had models come out ahead of schedule (the Warszawa 203 Sedan was a pleasant surprise). Ixo Museum and Ixo Classic are generally delayed about a month or two. With "dealer specials" (like Ist for Foxtoys and Ist for Cars & Company), it's impossible to tell without asking the dealer when the order was placed, so I can't comment with any real knowledge on those. Then there are the regional, non-magazine issues. Nash Avtoprom and VMM/VVM, geared toward the Russian and former East Bloc markets, have been delayed to the point where you start wondering "are these even going to come out at all?" Also, when Ixo is launching a product, like Medpomosh, you get ridiculous delays. Judging by the "8 weeks between models" thing, I would guess they're actually fairly high priority, but even with things like USSR AvtoLegende and Kultowe Auta, you still wind up getting short delays. Still, those build up: if we're to assume a one-or-two-week delay for ten more models, you could be looking at something that takes you into the middle of 2012.
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Add 1 to the Long Box total for Issue N°.100 (Crown Victoria) - so it must be an IXO sourced model.
To me, that's really odd. If I were a publisher, I would keep the timings the same right until the last model - especially given the time the collection has been running. It would also provide a golden opportunity to keep/ encourage some of us to join the 1.8 scale db5 band wagon - there will be a small overlap so perhaps some flyers advertising that this collection is coming to an end, however the db5 one is just beginning etc...
I have a feeling that this delivery every 8 weeks malarky will go tits up. The last couple of collector series I have had from fabbri have ended in a similar manner and I have really had to fight to ensure I got my final models. Fingers crossed this one doesn't end like that
How many tits are we talking about?
I had my 98/99 + letter delivered on 1st Nov. I wonder whether (i.e. I hope) they're extending the timescale in case a new Bond film comes out ... then maybe add some more models? I reckon there's almost another year to go with an 8 week delivery interval. Have been looking at the Bond23 forum on ajb007 (the next film) and it doesn't sound at all promising for a 2011 release.
Or maybe they are getting other countries caught up with the UK?
Arronax, I totally agree that Fords are boring.
Cheers,
Rhinoman B-)
Might explain why the remaining vehicles are nothing special and why there's a delay in shipping for some subscribers.
So if the company that made the cars is no more !!!, then it looks like we are F**ked for the replacement Anglia????
I could see them doing a second but shorter series that would include new movie cars plus some of those they missed. But I wouldn't start looking for that for at least another 3 - 4 years and even then it would be completely dependent of whether or not they found a manufacturer.
My thoughts? 110 and that's it. Sit back and hope that Corgi starts taking Bond cars seriously again.
Jim
Doesn't makes sense stretching out the remainder for any of the reasons above. If the company has gone bust you would expect the collection to conclude unfinished unless it has been taken over in which case the remaining models would be honoured. This would also suggest the DB5 collection could be in jeopardy especially with recent press against similar subscription kits in recent years. I am concerned now that the collection will fizzle out not completed and some subscribers could be short changed and not receive missing issues , expected issues etc etc. GE Fabbri I think would be foolish to throw in the towel on this collection as there would be alot of unhappy subscribers who all generate a regular income for this company. In this financial climate and in this fragile market to have a regular income for your product is like printing your own money. Corgi have reduced the run on all their range with some models being cancelled other ranges have simply disappeared.
This collection is a comprehensive list of vehicles as seen in Bond. The product is great value and surely will appreciate in value as time goes by. There have been hits and some misses but overall it's a collection I am proud to own and continue to subscribe to. I hope this is misinformation and maybe a blip that will resolve and we can look forward to additional issues maybe into the release of the next BOND movie. If not let's hope GE fabbri conclude the collection where all subscribers receive all issues on time including the replacement infamous Anglia.
I would even accept a maybe one model a month of a higher value this could then include other larger vehicles( in larger boxes for those that get excited and concerned about box sizes) . Maybe somebody from GE Fabbri could speak on the forum and give us some facts of what the overall plan is . If you are GE Fabbri and read this register and let us the subscrber s know.
All the best
I called the collection today to clear up a few things..heres what they had to say:
There will be no fourth free gift.
the horse box will not make an appearance.
The reason the issues are being shipped every 8 weeks is because they have a new manufacturer making the models and their model output is slower.
It will end at 110.
still some great models to go.
its been a lot of fun dropping by here.
derekaustralia :007)
Found this also on ebay . Chevrolet Impala from live and let die . Ten issues away 109!!! So don't understand why we now have to wait eight weeks between each double issue. Obviously the collection is marketed as ATLAS so stock is readily available. The model looks fantastic though, if anything good to see alot of chat on here.
Sorry, but the Impala pictured is #54 (Live and Let Die - Chevy Impala - Bond driving with Rosie Carver in the forest) and not #109, the impending Chevy Impala Custom Coupe.
As far as Atlas goes, this article might clarify things.
Atlas is just a French magazine publisher - much like GE Fabbri. Their collection vehicles are made by Universal Hobbies, IXO and Norev. Which explains why Atlas vehicles look so much like GE Fabbri's product.
Jim
With the remaining cars, I would imagine Ixo does the following:
-They use their existing mould for the Crown Vic. That's issue 100.
-Issue 101 and 102 will be CUB1 and the Bondola. Because of an existing contract, these could be done by UH.
-Issue 103 is the ZIL-117. I'm convinced of this. Ixo does two magazine series...USSR AvtoLegende (USSR Auto Legends) and Kultowe Auta PRL (Cult Automobiles of the Polish Socialist Republic) in which they do cars from all over the East Bloc. Since they've already done a ZIL-114 for both (it will be coming out for Kultowe Auta PRL, but hasn't yet), it should be pretty easy to make a ZIL-117, which is just a short wheel base version. The ZIL someone pictured above is a ZIL-41047; that's not at all like the 114 or 117, which was a knockoff of a Lincoln, not a Chrysler. Here's a 114 for you made by Ixo...
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4102/4781851475_3501c08bb9_z.jpg
(Nearest the camera; the one further away is a ZIL-111G viewed from the rear...note that this image is not mine)
I wouldn't be surprised if Ixo uses the Bond car as an excuse to make a 117 for AvtoLegende and Kultowe Auta (since I believe it already has a 117 planned for AvtoLegende).
As for a Ford Consul, Ford Country Squire, Ford Bronco II, and Ford Econoline, Ixo doesn't have moulds it could either buy or share yet. Hence the 4-extra-week delay. They could do some mould-sharing with UH for the other Silver Shadow II and the damaged DBS, but again, I see them needing to make their own mould for a '73 Chevy. I see the order in which the models are released being potentially reshuffled (a la what they did with Kultowe Auta PRL...early in the series, they got a ton of Soviet cars made in different colors with different license plates and pushed back a great many of the other East Bloc vehicles because they could simultaneously release for USSR AvtoLegende) and possibly, *if* they can't do a car, then I could see them doing the Lada Niva from TWINE. Why? Because Ixo has already done no less than five variants of the Lada Niva (USSR AvtoLegende, Kultowe Auta PRL, Ist Models, Ist Models for Cars & Company Volkspolizei [East German police], and the highly-detailed VMM Models St. Tropez model) and they already have the moulds. I'm not saying expect it, but I am saying that if they fail to come out with a model, this one probably takes its place.
They may bump up the Silver Shadow II from LTK to have time to get their act together regarding the Ford Consul and Ford Country Squire, though I doubt they'd bump up the DBS, if for symbolic reasons only. Also, expect the Ixo models to have either fewer figures or no figures at all. Thus far, only the Range Rover Convertible has been made by Ixo and had a figure.
Please note that this is just my speculation and stems from other magazine series cars I've collected and I'm looking forward to the models coming out.
Thank you for such an excellent post. It makes a lot of sense for a large number of reasons. I also collect other models, and the Soviet and Polish 1:43 ranges are interesting - thank you for pointing these out. I like the FSO and the Tatra models.
I would say that despite the omission of some obvious cars - such as the Lincoln MkVII from Licence to Kill - and the not so great models - the wrong type of Jaguar for Quantum of Solace , the horrible Living Daylights Aston Volante with the strange and incorrect rear end, and the distinctly average Ford GT40 from Die Another Day - this collection has transformed the ability of Bond fans to collect models of the cars in the films. The price represents value, and most of the cars have not been modelled well in the past, and certainly not to a common scale, if at all. The magazines are effectively thrown in for free, and they are worth at least something on their own. Compared to model cars available as recently as the late 1990s these cars are detailed and inexpensive. The Chinese production techniques have progressed a long way in the last 15 years.
I would be very interested to see how the cars look on your O gauge railway - I have an HO railway with 1:87 Herpa cars on, and the train/ car collecting is very interesting. If you have time, perhaps you could post some?
Happy collecting!
Orumov's GAZ-31029 (altered so there's some poor political prisoner next Orumov) and Orlov's Mercedes-Benz (altered with tires and eventually I added Yugoslavian military license plates, since they really DID use Mercedes-Benz general officer's cars) show up on my "commie compound's" VIP car section.
Not at all obvious due to the poor way in which I took the photo, but the Czech Verjena Bezpechnost Lada 1500 is hanging by its rear bumper, ripped in half after a collission with a GAZ-13 Chaika.
The DN 1957 Chevy Bel Air, now property of the CIA. I later re-did the license plates to Washington, D.C. plates.
The GF 1964 Lincoln Continental parked at the station, a "red cap" unloading or perhaps loading luggage out of the open trunk/boot.
At far left, you can see Blofeld's Merc 600 SWB from OHMSS. I'm actually in the process of modding this into a Japanese diplomatic car (just replacing the figures).
Here's one where I caught the LALD San Monique Police Car in the background of a Russian Nationalist Parade (my layout, as all layouts do, exists within its own world. Mine is rather dystopian and features a very evil Soviet Union on consistent brink of the Cold War going hot with a substantial Russian Nationalist movement that frankly isn't much better, but at least is willing to cooperate with NATO).
In the background, you can see the Leyland Sherpa Telephone Van from TSWLM doing exactly what it was designed for: being parked next to a guy performing maintenance on a damaged telephone pole. There are currently no figures in the front seats, though I plan to make a telephone repairman and it's a work in progress.
Russian Nationalist DPS Police Car (GAZ-2402 Volga Station Wagon) helping the CIA spy on the Soviets. Unfortunately shot without the two Nationalist Militsia figures and the one CIA figure who crammed into Felix's T-Bird's rear seat.
The Binz Europ Ambulance following a three-car crash. Note medical attendant.
The second car in the Soviet military convoy on the Communist Compound is Red Grant's Citroen Traction Avant from FRWL. By the way, I took measurements of this car and it doesn't match up to the movie's 11CV. Rather, it's the smaller 7CV...which did indeed show up in Yugoslavia and even Bulgaria following WWII.
Here's one I did for REALLY dark humor. The GAZ-13 Chaika is KGB and has been pulled over by West German Police. Open up the trunk, and TA-DA! Dead body in garbage bag (lousy Soviet garbage bag broke, allowing you to see his leg). KGB personnel about to get arrested. Since the Le Salle Miller Combination Coach from DN was NOT a true hearse (but, as its name suggests, something that could be an ambulance, a hearse, a coroner's automobile, or even a light bus!) I chose to use it in the role of coroner's automobile here.
The three-way crash that the Binz Europ Ambulance had stopped for. Tracy's Mercury Cougar from OHMSS and Tilly Masterson's Mustang from GF are two of the participants, while the third is a wrecked Simca 9 Aronde from the popular "La Route Bleu" series from France (which I've also gotten a lot of use out of).
The Daimler Limousine from CR. I've been toying with the idea to paint over the hotel logos (since I found a matching, glossy-black paint color and can airbrush it on), since I make it rather obvious on top of the hotel that it's mafia-run and this is the don's personal limo (note hitman's falling-apart Sunbeam Alpine right behind it and, as part of road traffic, the Mini Moke from LALD).
I have MANY others on the layout, but these were the only photos I have uploaded as of now. I could of course add more, showing the progress of both the cars and the layout.
To me, the most disappointing model was the GF 1965 Ford Falcon Ranchero driven by Oddjob. The roof dimensions of that thing look REALLY bad. Regardless, I do have it and feature it somewhat prominently on my layout. Another gaffe was mentioned above: the Citroen Traction Avant from TSWLM is a Traction 11CV in the film. The Soviets wouldn't really have had much access to this car, ironically, especially if they didn't care about secrecy. Ironically, the model is a Traction 7CV (and a very good one at that)...exported to both Yugoslavia and Bulgaria after WWII and something you'd expect the Soviets to get their hands on. Franz Sanchez's Maserati Biturbo from LTK is also missing the aftermarket spoiler on the trunk lid/boot lid.
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I found this theme extremely amusing Quote : (rather dystopian and features a very evil Soviet Union on consistent brink of the Cold War going hot with a substantial Russian Nationalist movement that frankly isn't much better, but at least is willing to cooperate with NATO) !!! Brilliant. Perhaps you could do a crashed Mig or similar?
Really well done - that's extremely inventive!
myhandle...First off, thank you VERY much! I worked rather hard to get my layout the way it is. I have something similar: a T-34 tank turret and some "wrecked" armor with the Soviet star that a US Army officer and a British Army officer are briefing some men in suits about. I had considered a Yak-9 cockpit since it was duplicate of a model I'd already built (ICM 1/48), but ultimately wound up trading the model away. Still, with a MiG-15, that could definitely work. I'll think about that.
And as a general observation, take a close look and you'll find a bunch of Dinky Toys and early Corgi Toys (I know...1/48 as opposed to 1/43, but they have special meaning to me) in those photos.
'Thanks a bunch' to the newer guys who have posted over the past couple of days and taken the conversation over some interesting new territory, giving the forum a few new perspectives. It's certainly taken my mind off the collection going 'tits up'!
I find it really interesting to consider the model sourcing strategy that GE Fabbri are pursuing and suspect that it's primarily financially driven. I do often wonder whether 'they' read the posts in this forum ... surely they must?!
It will be an interesting 11 months(?) ahead to see what appears.
... and well said, Diecast007 - I completely agree with your sentiments in post #2080.
Cheers all,
Rhinoman B-)
It's also my belief that the "11-month" thing isn't just a marketing gimmick to milk it for the suspense value. If you think that, you overestimate Ixo's efficiency. I spoke about this at length with a guy collecting the coming-out-slow-as-heck Russian Nash Avtoprom (English: "Our Auto Industy") Series who believed Ixo was just dragging their feet to increase anticipation. I can tell you for a fact that Ixo is behind on their models, and in certain cases WAY behind. I've gotten this second-hand from four different Eastern European dealers with a vested interest in Ist Models, Nash Avtoprom, and VMM/VVM. In fact, if someone just looks at their proposed release schedules for Ist Models vs. when they're actually released, certain models have come out up to *two years* late (the GAZ-13 Chaika, for example, was supposed to be in Ixo's first series and wound up coming out this year.). The irony is, in most cases, they actually have the moulds: you can see their models of the FSO Polonez Caro and Moskvitch 412 that have failed to come out (although the USSR AvtoLegende Moskvitch 412 comes out in a week, I believe). Then there's a series called Medpomosh that they've been trying to release in Russia as a "sister series" to USSR AvtoLegende that features police cars, ambulances, fire brigade vehicles, etc. that was supposed to come out in July. Thus far, they've just started test-marketing the first TWO cars in the series this month. I've had it explained to me by these dealers that they're inadvertently competing with themselves. Nash Avtoprom is competing with USSR AvtoLegende, which is competing with Ist Models, which is competing with VMM/VVM, which is competing with Kultowe Auta, which is competing with Atlas Verlag DDR Modellauto, which are all in turn competing with Ixo Classic, which is in turn competing with Ixo Museum. And then there are the orders they have to fill for dealers. The end result is that ALL of their production lines are slowed down and many models wind up being delayed seemingly forever. In fact, there are likely models we don't even know about that haven't been produced, the moulds of which are just collecting dust because they've gotten pushed back so far.
Bottom line: Ixo could make a good mould and good model in the same time UH could, probably, if they committed themselves to it. But they've got so much else gumming up the works and so much ridiculous internal competition that it *will* actually take six weeks for them to physically come out with a given new model and then one or two weeks to circulate it (or much longer if they're getting off the ground...which is why I think we saw the immense delays with the Cadillac Hearse from DAF and the La Salle Hearse from DN; they seemed to settle in after that).
It's a good diorama, maybe you need some fake foliage in there in the form of bushes and so on. Not sure Tracey's car with skis quite works in that context! Of course, you have to take the cars away from the diorama they originally had, which can be a shame.
I'd have thought the Car Collection would be onto a winner if they created similar dioramas of a smaller scale for certain movies, say the Swiss Alps with the cars on three levels as when Masterton takes a pop at Auric.
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Great to see someone else has seen the yawning gap left by the omission of the GF Merc. I've been repeating myself over it for ages, even written to Fabbri pleading for it to be included (with no reply).
And if you are correct about Ixo being so slow, I guess that means the collection could carry on into 2012 folks, or 2013, or 2014............................. :v
I'm still working on foliage. It's been my one issue that has always hampered me. My father does the figure-painting and figure modification for me for free (obviously), usually using Bachmann Plasticville or Preyser 1/48 as a base, and I have a pretty easy time modifying the cars myself. But I've just never gotten the hang of plant life.
"Not sure Tracey's car with skis quite works in that context!"
I completely agree. I've been told that before, incidentally..."great car, good body damage on both sides, but what's with the skis?" As such, I'm tempted to just remove them, though really think they're a nifty detail myself. I don't know. Call me torn on that one.
"And if you are correct about Ixo being so slow, I guess that means the collection could carry on into 2012 folks"
I don't see them going past 2012, but can definitely see them going into it. It all depends on how Ixo decides to classify the Bond Car Collection. The more upscale the model, the longer the time it takes to come out. As such, the less expensive magazine models (USSR AvtoLegende and Kultowe Auta PRL) only tend to be delayed a week or so, if that. The boxed models for general markets (like Ist) can vary widely. Like I said, the Chaika took two years to come out. But then, they've also had models come out ahead of schedule (the Warszawa 203 Sedan was a pleasant surprise). Ixo Museum and Ixo Classic are generally delayed about a month or two. With "dealer specials" (like Ist for Foxtoys and Ist for Cars & Company), it's impossible to tell without asking the dealer when the order was placed, so I can't comment with any real knowledge on those. Then there are the regional, non-magazine issues. Nash Avtoprom and VMM/VVM, geared toward the Russian and former East Bloc markets, have been delayed to the point where you start wondering "are these even going to come out at all?" Also, when Ixo is launching a product, like Medpomosh, you get ridiculous delays. Judging by the "8 weeks between models" thing, I would guess they're actually fairly high priority, but even with things like USSR AvtoLegende and Kultowe Auta, you still wind up getting short delays. Still, those build up: if we're to assume a one-or-two-week delay for ten more models, you could be looking at something that takes you into the middle of 2012.