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  • TonyDPTonyDP Inside the MonolithPosts: 4,303MI6 Agent
    edited January 2008
    Actually Mr. Martini, that article was from back in October of 2006 and they were talking about The Dark Knight. There is still no word on who will be the villains in a potential third Batman film helmed by Nolan. Personally, I always thought Bob Hoskins would have made a good Penguin.

    Anyhow, here's a few new B:TDK shots I came across today while surfing around. I think they're new but apologies in advance if they've been posted before.

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  • RogueAgentRogueAgent Speeding in the Tumbler...Posts: 3,676MI6 Agent
    edited January 2008
    Thanks for the pics, Tony. The first one borders on a very good looking painting or it's a photo. I'm not sure...


    As for potential villians in Nolan's sights, I'd like another Penguin but then again I don't; I feel the same way about Catwoman. I would however like to see The Riddler done right this time.
    Anyway Two-Face can pretty much carry a film on his own, so could Scarecrow in FULL costume, Mad Hatter, etc...

    I know it's out of the question with the current regime but doesn't anyone think that Clayface & Killer Croc are due for a summer movie romp with the franchise?


    I guess if it was the right actor and right look for Cobblepot, I could get behind it...
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  • TonyDPTonyDP Inside the MonolithPosts: 4,303MI6 Agent
    edited January 2008
    I don't think Nolan would get within a 100 miles of Croc or Clayface. Both are just too out there given Nolan's sensibilities. It also doesn't help that Clayface is similar to the Sandman.

    I have a feeling Catwoman could make an appearance. Nolan still hasn't given us a female villain and he and Bale might be interested in exploring the emotional tension that exists between her and Batman.

    I could also see him doing something with Bane, who if you tone down the physical strength a bit, could be the kind of "believable" villain Nolan seems to like.

    Not sure about Riddler; his modus operandi just doesn't seem to mesh with what Nolan has given us so far. Same goes for Penguin. If either character gets used, I'd expect some significant alterations from their 4 color counterparts.
  • RogueAgentRogueAgent Speeding in the Tumbler...Posts: 3,676MI6 Agent
    edited January 2008
    TonyDP wrote:
    I don't think Nolan would get within a 100 miles of Croc or Clayface. Both are just too out there given Nolan's sensibilities and neither has enough name recognition with mainstream fans to be viable. It also doesn't help that Clayface is similar to the Sandman.

    Clayface does. Probably more recognizable than Sandman and his abilities aren't as limited as the "Man Peter Let Get Away"... 8-)
    I have a feeling Catwoman could make an appearance. Nolan still hasn't given us a female villain and he and Bale might be interested in exploring the emotional tension that exists between her and Batman.

    Ugh. After that bomb she laid solo from 3-4 years ago, I sort of doubt that...I don't know- she's one of my lesser favorite Bats villians seeing that I prefer Poison Ivy, Talia & Harley over her... :# I can only take her in small doses...

    Of course on the old tv show, which was a little different,, Catwoman was just lust for me... Lee, Eartha, Julie... :D
    I could also see him doing something with Bane, who if you tone down the physical strength a bit, could be the kind of "believable" villain Nolan seems to like.

    Only if Azrael is somehow involved... :D
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  • TonyDPTonyDP Inside the MonolithPosts: 4,303MI6 Agent
    edited January 2008
    I think your fanboy quotient is getting into the danger level. :))

    I'm not wild about another Catwoman appearance either ( sorry Halle :v ), just speculating into what Nolan may find interesting.

    Bane would allow for some good one on one action with Batman. And they could make a good subplot out of his addiction to venom; they could even mine the old Venom graphic novel and make Bruce Wayne temporarily addicted as well. I have a feeling Bale might dig exploring that angle of the character.

    I've never been much of a Poison Ivy fan, I can't get behind somebody who is basically a living plant.

    Mr. Freeze could be an interesting villain, if they follow the animated show and make him a tragic character instead of the one line quipping, scenery chewing clown from B&R; I'm just not sure if enough time has passed since that travesty to wash the bad taste away.
  • RogueAgentRogueAgent Speeding in the Tumbler...Posts: 3,676MI6 Agent
    edited January 2008
    TonyDP wrote:
    I think your fanboy quotient is getting into the danger level. :))


    :)) :)) :)) :))



    In Nolan's world, we all know that Poison Ivy wouldn't be a living plant but she's worthy still. :)) Got to agree with you on Bane though.

    Funny you should bring up Mr. Freeze, Tony...

    I was telling someone the other day that as much as I love Nolan's accomplishments with Bats thus far, he'd probably make Victor Friesz an ordinary guy who brandishes a hypodermic syringe and goes around injecting the innocent citizens of Gotham with freon or something... 8-)

    That one's too hard a sell from him.
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  • HardyboyHardyboy Posts: 5,901Chief of Staff
    I think Pengy could work in Nolan's vision, if he's done as a shady nightclub owner. The tuxedo, monacle and nickname would work perfectly, as they would all be part of Cobblepot's theatrical public persona. And Toby Jones--c'mon, short, pudgy, droopy jowls. . .put a big beak on him and he is IT!
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  • TonyDPTonyDP Inside the MonolithPosts: 4,303MI6 Agent
    From Newsweek, Christopher Nolan reminisces about Heath Ledger....


    http://www.newsweek.com/id/105580

    One night, as I'm standing on LaSalle Street in Chicago, trying to line up a shot for "The Dark Knight," a production assistant skateboards into my line of sight. Silently, I curse the moment that Heath first skated onto our set in full character makeup. I'd fretted about the reaction of Batman fans to a skateboarding Joker, but the actual result was a proliferation of skateboards among the younger crew members. If you'd asked those kids why they had chosen to bring their boards to work, they would have answered honestly that they didn't know. That's real charisma—as invisible and natural as gravity. That's what Heath had.

    Heath was bursting with creativity. It was in his every gesture. He once told me that he liked to wait between jobs until he was creatively hungry. Until he needed it again. He brought that attitude to our set every day. There aren't many actors who can make you feel ashamed of how often you complain about doing the best job in the world. Heath was one of them.

    One time he and another actor were shooting a complex scene. We had two days to shoot it, and at the end of the first day, they'd really found something and Heath was worried that he might not have it if we stopped. He wanted to carry on and finish. It's tough to ask the crew to work late when we all know there's plenty of time to finish the next day. But everyone seemed to understand that Heath had something special and that we had to capture it before it disappeared. Months later, I learned that as Heath left the set that night, he quietly thanked each crew member for working late. Quietly. Not trying to make a point, just grateful for the chance to create that they'd given him.

    Those nights on the streets of Chicago were filled with stunts. These can be boring times for an actor, but Heath was fascinated, eagerly accepting our invitation to ride in the camera car as we chased vehicles through movie traffic—not just for the thrill ride, but to be a part of it. Of everything. He'd brought his laptop along in the car, and we had a high-speed screening of two of his works-in-progress: short films he'd made that were exciting and haunting. Their exuberance made me feel jaded and leaden. I've never felt as old as I did watching Heath explore his talents. That night I made him an offer—knowing he wouldn't take me up on it—that he should feel free to come by the set when he had a night off so he could see what we were up to.

    When you get into the edit suite after shooting a movie, you feel a responsibility to an actor who has trusted you, and Heath gave us everything. As we started my cut, I would wonder about each take we chose, each trim we made. I would visualize the screening where we'd have to show him the finished film—sitting three or four rows behind him, watching the movements of his head for clues to what he was thinking about what we'd done with all that he'd given us. Now that screening will never be real. I see him every day in my edit suite. I study his face, his voice. And I miss him terribly.

    Back on LaSalle Street, I turn to my assistant director and I tell him to clear the skateboarding kid out of my line of sight when I realize—it's Heath, woolly hat pulled low over his eyes, here on his night off to take me up on my offer. I can't help but smile.
  • NightshooterNightshooter In bed with SolitairePosts: 2,917MI6 Agent
    A few posts ago, Tony mentioned Catwoman, who I've always liked, but then in response to that RA brought up something which would truly be a good idea - Talia. We have Ra's in play, so why not have Talia introduced (and then we can get Ra's back, as well)?

    Thanks for posting Nolan's reaction, Tony. Seems like Heath really loved what he did.
  • John DrakeJohn Drake On assignmentPosts: 2,564MI6 Agent
    That's a nice tribute from Nolan. Thanks for posting. It can't be easy editing The Dark Knight now. It doesn't surprise me that Nolan feels haunted by Ledger's presence when he's locked in the editing suite, putting his final performance together and seeing his face every day. This is going to be a very strange film to watch and it's going to carry a lot of sadness with it.
  • RogueAgentRogueAgent Speeding in the Tumbler...Posts: 3,676MI6 Agent
    edited January 2008
    A few posts ago, Tony mentioned Catwoman, who I've always liked, but then in response to that RA brought up something which would truly be a good idea - Talia. We have Ra's in play, so why not have Talia introduced (and then we can get Ra's back, as well)?

    Thanks for posting Nolan's reaction, Tony. Seems like Heath really loved what he did.


    Thanks for posting that excerpt, Tony. Nice article.

    And yes, Talia would be a better choice in future installments under Nolan. It would sort of bring his trilogy full circle and besides, she's a more worthy character to Batman than Catwoman will ever be.
    Selina Kyle brings that sexual tension we're accustomed to but Talia's actually a weakness for the Dark Knight. She is his equal. It also brings Ra's mystique full circle should he return to finish what Batman previously interrupted. She's sexier too...

    Catwoman, in the comics, can hold her own but she's just overrated IMO and recycling her in this manner isn't necessary when there are other villians still untapped that can be utilized in new stories and won't be too outrageous for Nolan to convey to audiences.

    It's already bad enough that WB hasn't got the sense or nerve to experiment cinematically with their other properties (and they have an arsenal of material) outside of Supes & Bats but to just retread the same villians over & over in different incarnations can be tiresome sometimes.

    I still believe that The Riddler deserves to get a real chance at redeeming himself after Carrey hacked Gorshin's aura...in a poor way. 8-)
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  • TonyDPTonyDP Inside the MonolithPosts: 4,303MI6 Agent
    Getting back to Nolan's article for a minute, one of the reasons I found it interesting and worthwhile was that it pretty much refuted all this garbage we'd been reading about how Heath Ledger's death was somehow connected to his portrayal of the Joker. If Nolan is to be believed, and I see no reason to doubt him, Ledger was a well adjusted young man playing a role and having a good time doing it.

    I think the media have caught on to this as well. Instead of saying the Batman movie is cursed, they're now shifting their attention to the Terry Gilliam "curse" - ostensibly because Ledger died while filming that movie and also because Jean Rochefort got a herniated disc during Gilliam's aborted Don Quixote movie. Of course, they conveniently forget all the other film and television work that Gilliam has done over the years. Talk about grasping at straws. 8-)

    As for the villains in a third Nolan Batman movie (assuming we ever get that far), I still think people would pay good money to see Halle Berry reprise her genre defining role as Catwoman ... well, maybe not :p

    Seriously, I'm not sure who I'd like to see. From what I've read, Two-Face looks to figure in the third film, but I don't really know who would be a good foil. I think Riddler is out, simply because that combination was already used in Batman Forever and there's really no point in inviting further comparisons. I still believe the Penguin and Bane are the most compatible with Nolan's sensibilities. They could also go for Talia or somebody like Lady Shiva as she could tie into the whole League of Assassins angle as well.
  • RogueAgentRogueAgent Speeding in the Tumbler...Posts: 3,676MI6 Agent
    edited January 2008
    Hardyboy wrote:
    I think Pengy could work in Nolan's vision, if he's done as a shady nightclub owner. The tuxedo, monacle and nickname would work perfectly, as they would all be part of Cobblepot's theatrical public persona. And Toby Jones--c'mon, short, pudgy, droopy jowls. . .put a big beak on him and he is IT!


    H.B., you may be on to something here; I knew that named was familiar to me but I just couldn't place him...he was in THE MIST last fall. Personally, from a delivery standpoint, I would've preferred Phillip Seymour Hoffman who could play an extraordinary Cobblepot.

    But your suggestion to possibly cast Toby Jones might just supersede mine.


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    Crazy how much he looks like The Penguin. Someone please Photoshop a tophat on this guy! B-)
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  • Agent_MAgent_M lost in the speed forcePosts: 353MI6 Agent
    edited January 2008
    o.k. this is a bit of speculation but on the virgin radio breakfast show this morning there was a debate going on about which was better the Enterprise or the TARDIS. well anyway David Tennant is a friend of the presenter and actually phoned in to argue for the TARDIS. after much banter and joking christian(the presnter) went off on a tangent about how he knew Tennant was lined up for the Riddler at which point it all went a bit quiet. not saying its true but might be something to keep in mind. it might also be worth checking out the virgin radio web site as they put up a highlights of the week podcast.
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  • taitytaity Posts: 702MI6 Agent
    I'd like to see the Penguin, but played as a normal mobster - not as Danny De Vito. And as for the Cat -I think Halle Berry's little film killed any chance of that happening.

    Persoanlly I would have liked to see the Joker return aided by Harley Quinn - that would have blown me away, but somehow I doubt that will happen now.
  • Dan SameDan Same Victoria, AustraliaPosts: 6,054MI6 Agent
    edited February 2008
    For reasons already stated, I doubt that Riddler will be in the third Batman film, but I think it would be great if he at least made an appearance. I think he's a fantastic villain and he's my second favourite Burton/Schumacher villain after Joker. :D
    "He’s a man way out there in the blue, riding on a smile and a shoeshine. And when they start not smiling back—that’s an earthquake. and then you get yourself a couple of spots on your hat, and you’re finished. Nobody dast blame this man. A salesman is got to dream, boy. It comes with the territory." Death of a Salesman
  • TonyDPTonyDP Inside the MonolithPosts: 4,303MI6 Agent
    There's a short article over at IGN today about WB execs meeting to decide how to market the film going forward. There's also a little spoiler about Harvey Dent in there so read at your own discretion.


    http://movies.ign.com/articles/849/849003p1.html
  • RogueAgentRogueAgent Speeding in the Tumbler...Posts: 3,676MI6 Agent
    edited February 2008
    Thanks for the link, Tony...however I was tempted to read on pertaining to Dent. Who am I fooling? I'll cave in by the time I get home. :))


    Here's something that may lighten up this thread a bit amid the recent misfortune...The Dark Knight trailer... LEGO Style!


    http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=StWZDqqBfJo
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  • TonyDPTonyDP Inside the MonolithPosts: 4,303MI6 Agent
    RogueAgent wrote:
    Thanks for the link, Tony...however I was tempted to read on pertaining to Dent. Who am I fooling? I'll cave in by the time I get home. :))

    Like I said, it's only a little spoiler. Go on ... read it ... it won't do any harm ... AND THEN YOUR JOURNEY TO THE DARK SIDE WILL BE COMPLETE!!! :v
  • Mr MartiniMr Martini That nice house in the sky.Posts: 2,703MI6 Agent
    RogueAgent wrote:
    Thanks for the link, Tony...however I was tempted to read on pertaining to Dent. Who am I fooling? I'll cave in by the time I get home. :))


    Here's something that may lighten up this thread a bit amid the recent misfortune...The Dark Knight trailer... LEGO Style!


    http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=StWZDqqBfJo

    That's a good trailer. Whoever did that has some talent.
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  • NightshooterNightshooter In bed with SolitairePosts: 2,917MI6 Agent
    TonyDP wrote:
    RogueAgent wrote:
    Thanks for the link, Tony...however I was tempted to read on pertaining to Dent. Who am I fooling? I'll cave in by the time I get home. :))

    Like I said, it's only a little spoiler. Go on ... read it ... it won't do any harm ... AND THEN YOUR JOURNEY TO THE DARK SIDE WILL BE COMPLETE!!! :v

    Said spoiler seems a little Janice Porter-esque, depending on when the spoiler info occurs.
  • a rogue AIa rogue AI Posts: 128MI6 Agent
    SHH wrote:
    A first look at Batman: Gotham Knight is now below! Directed by Bruce W. Timm, the direct-to-DVD six-part anthology film bridge the gap between Batman Begins and The Dark Knight. The writers include Brian Azzarello, Alan Burnett, Jordan Goldberg, David S. Goyer, Josh Olson and Greg Rucka.


    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8oW71WB254M

    - imdb page: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1117563/
    - source: http://www.superherohype.com/news/topnews.php?id=6798
  • TonyDPTonyDP Inside the MonolithPosts: 4,303MI6 Agent
    Thanks for the link Rogue AI. That was interesting to say the least. I've never been much of a fan of the anime/manga style - way too exaggerated and melodramatic for me - and I'm not really wild about how Batman or his rogues gallery seem to have been realized. But it should still be interesting to watch as Batman has always lent himself to different visual interpretations.
  • RogueAgentRogueAgent Speeding in the Tumbler...Posts: 3,676MI6 Agent
    Here's a link to Mattel's TDK Toy line. Despite me hating Bat's initial look this time, the rest of the figures are pretty cool:




    http://www.comingsoon.net/imageGallery/The_Dark_Knight_Toy_Fair
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  • HardyboyHardyboy Posts: 5,901Chief of Staff
    RogueAgent wrote:
    Here's a link to Mattel's TDK Toy line. Despite me hating Bat's initial look this time, the rest of the figures are pretty cool.

    I see there's a Joker (or one of his hoods?) wearing a mask from the bank robbery scene. Any word on if there will be a figure based on Ledger himself?
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  • RogueAgentRogueAgent Speeding in the Tumbler...Posts: 3,676MI6 Agent
    Hardyboy wrote:
    RogueAgent wrote:
    Here's a link to Mattel's TDK Toy line. Despite me hating Bat's initial look this time, the rest of the figures are pretty cool.

    I see there's a Joker (or one of his hoods?) wearing a mask from the bank robbery scene. Any word on if there will be a figure based on Ledger himself?


    Your guess is as good as mine, H.B. I know that they're keeping the Two-Face figure hush-hush but I have no idea on how they'll approach the Ledger thing now.
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  • NightshooterNightshooter In bed with SolitairePosts: 2,917MI6 Agent
    Looks like a figure of Ledger is happening:

    http://www.sideshowtoy.com/prodblog/afd_163.jpg
  • HardyboyHardyboy Posts: 5,901Chief of Staff
    The Sideshow figure looks pretty menacing. As for Mattel, it looks like I found the answer, from DigitalSpy:

    An action figure depicting Heath Ledger in the role of The Joker is to go on sale.

    The 28-year-old had just finished shooting Batman movie The Dark Knight when he died of an overdose of prescription drugs on January 22.

    His family has given its blessing for the character to be included in a range of figures from toy company Mattel to coincide with the film's release.

    A Joker armed with a rocket launcher and another with a knife will be available from May.

    A spokesman for Ledger's relatives said: "Heath was very proud of his work in the film and his family is aware and supportive of the plans for the movie."
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  • Mr MartiniMr Martini That nice house in the sky.Posts: 2,703MI6 Agent
    RogueAgent wrote:
    I know that they're keeping the Two-Face figure hush-hush

    This just keeps me wondering on how Two-Face will look in the movie. After doing a Google image search of Two-Face action figures, i am hoping that two-face will look something similar to the one 2face dressed in Black and White.

    Something similar to this would be cool:

    Kia-Asamiya-Two-face-01.jpg
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  • RogueAgentRogueAgent Speeding in the Tumbler...Posts: 3,676MI6 Agent
    edited February 2008
    Apparently, the Two-Face action figure has been revealed....

    I don't think this is a fake.

    The Dark Knight Two-Face Toy Revealed
    Source: Dark Horizons February 20, 2008



    Dark Horizons has posted a first look at photos of the Two-Face figure for The Dark Knight. Aaron Eckhart plays the villain (AKA Harvey Dent) in the Christopher Nolan sequel coming to theaters on July 18. Although a bit blurry, the photos of the toy were apparently taken at a restricted press event at this week's Toy Fair in New York. You can check out the other pic by clicking on the image below.



    2face.jpg


    Other views can be seen at this site:

    http://www.darkhorizons.com/news08/080220c.php
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