Regarding villians for a third film, is it just me or would Angelina Jolie as Cat Woman (an option which may very well happen) be extraordinary? :v :x
"He’s a man way out there in the blue, riding on a smile and a shoeshine. And when they start not smiling back—that’s an earthquake. and then you get yourself a couple of spots on your hat, and you’re finished. Nobody dast blame this man. A salesman is got to dream, boy. It comes with the territory." Death of a Salesman
Why are you giving us the evil eye over this Dan Same? Or have you got a twitch?
Please explain? ?:)
"He’s a man way out there in the blue, riding on a smile and a shoeshine. And when they start not smiling back—that’s an earthquake. and then you get yourself a couple of spots on your hat, and you’re finished. Nobody dast blame this man. A salesman is got to dream, boy. It comes with the territory." Death of a Salesman
And what the blinking 'eck is Rohmer vs. Chabrol, Leone vs. Corbucci?
The draw for the semi-finals of the 1974 Celebrity Film Director ping-pong competition.
NP, you must know who these geezers are. You've been posting reviews of films I've never even heard of in the Last Film Seen thread.
Eric Rohmer makes films about French people talking to each other.
Claude Chabrol makes primarily thrillers and is often compared to Hitchcock. Two of his films, Dr M and Madame Bovary made me want to eat my television so I didn't have to watch them any more. Dr M also had one of the worst performances I've ever seen by an actor that isn't Sean Penn in I am Sam. Some German fella. Awful.
I know you've heard of these two. Sergio Corbucci made Django and Sergio Leone made A Fistful of Dollars etc.
Claude Chabrol makes primarily thrillers and is often compared to Hitchcock. Two of his films, Dr M and Madame Bovary made me want to eat my television so I didn't have to watch them any more. Dr M also had one of the worst performances I've ever seen by an actor that isn't Sean Penn in I am Sam. Some German fella. Awful.
I'm no expert on Chabrol, so I won't comment on this, except to ask what is this thing you have against Sean Penn?
I know you these two. Sergio Corbucci made Django and Sergio Leone made A Fistful of Dollars etc.
Corbucci is terrific (I loved Django) but Leone was IMO truly among the very greatest film directors of all time.
"He’s a man way out there in the blue, riding on a smile and a shoeshine. And when they start not smiling back—that’s an earthquake. and then you get yourself a couple of spots on your hat, and you’re finished. Nobody dast blame this man. A salesman is got to dream, boy. It comes with the territory." Death of a Salesman
Sweepy the CatHalifax, West Yorkshire, EnglaPosts: 986MI6 Agent
Possible Future Villains:
Black Mask
Catwoman
Riddler
(The return of 'The Scarecrow' is a possibility although I wouldn't recast 'The Joker' just yet)
I won't comment on this, except to ask what is this thing you have against Sean Penn?
It's the whole being a conceited, overrated, spoilt Hollywood brat with an overriding sense of his own importance. You know, that's pretty much it. Oh and being a complete **** during his marriage to Madonna. Oh and liking Bukowski and Kerouac, who may have been decent writers but whose worldview is overwhelmingly adolescent. For being a lousy director. For starring in I Am Sam. Do enjoy Tropic Thunder though Dan. Downey Jr nails him. My word it's funny. "You never go full retard." So I'll admit to having a slight problem with him. Maybe just a tad. )
Sorry this is completely off-topic. So let me tie it into The Dark Knight by thanking God that they cast a proper thespian like Eric Roberts. Best of the Best, By the Sword, The Ambulance. Beat that I Am Sam.
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Regarding villians for a third film, is it just me or would Angelina Jolie as Cat Woman (an option which may very well happen) be extraordinary? :v :x
Actually....NO. 8-)
We've seen her twice already and if it's imperative that another female should be cast, then make it Ra's daughter Talia who'd own Catwoman.
I'll still hold out for The Riddler or Black Mask.
Mrs. Man Face: "You wouldn't hit a lady? Would you?"
Batman: "The Hammer Of Justice isUNISEX!"
-Batman: The Brave & The Bold -
Regarding villians for a third film, is it just me or would Angelina Jolie as Cat Woman (an option which may very well happen) be extraordinary? :v :x
Actually....NO. 8-)
I'll let that one go. After all, I know you must be devastated about the news concerning Spidey. :v
"He’s a man way out there in the blue, riding on a smile and a shoeshine. And when they start not smiling back—that’s an earthquake. and then you get yourself a couple of spots on your hat, and you’re finished. Nobody dast blame this man. A salesman is got to dream, boy. It comes with the territory." Death of a Salesman
Regarding villians for a third film, is it just me or would Angelina Jolie as Cat Woman (an option which may very well happen) be extraordinary? :v :x
Actually....NO. 8-)
We've seen her twice already and if it's imperative that another female should be cast, then make it Ra's daughter Talia who'd own Catwoman.
I'll still hold out for The Riddler or Black Mask.
Although to be fair, neither Michelle Pfeiffer's repressed secretary or Halle Berry's repressed graphics designer were particularly faithful to the comics character and both had plenty of room for improvement.
Nobody has really played Catwoman as Selina Kyle, bored socialite, part-time cat-burglar and eventual anti-heroine. I think in Nolan's hands that could be an interesting character. Her current costume with the catsuit and goggles also fits nicely with Nolan's more "realistic" sensibilities. Also, exploring the inevitable relationship between the characters even as Bruce struggles with Rachel's death might make for some good drama and character development.
As to who should play Catwoman, despite all the baggage she comes with, Angelina Jolie is a good actress and would probably make a physically impressive Catwoman (once they airbrush out all the tattoos). She would also bring tons of buzz and publicity to the proceedings and is the kind of actress that could stand up to the inevitable comparisons and reminiscenses of Heath Ledger's Joker.
However, I do think that there would have to be a second villain as I don't think Catwoman is interesting enough to carry a movie on her own. Though it probably won't shake down this way, I wouldn't mind seeing Two-Face and Catwoman as the antagonists in the next film; Two-Face because I really don't think they used him enough in Dark Knight and he is after all the key to Batman getting off the hook for the murders. Aaron Eckhart really held in own in Dark Knight and even in his scenes with Ledger, he was never upstaged by anybody. And Catwoman because she could be used to explore other aspects of Batman and Bruce Wayne that Nolan hasn't really touched on yet.
RogueAgentSpeeding in the Tumbler...Posts: 3,676MI6 Agent
As to who should play Catwoman, despite all the baggage she comes with, Angelina Jolie is a good actress and would probably make a physically impressive Catwoman (once they airbrush out all the tattoos).
You and tats. ) )
Sorry, man but I don't find Jolie attractive enough to be Kyle/Catwoman at all. She's not ugly (face-wise) but she has such a weird shape to me - certainly not as well-proportioned as Halle Berry or Pfeiffer...especially BERRY.
Yes, her sex appeal is over-hyped too. 8-)
You take the pouty lips away from her and she's just average. There has to be someone else out there who's just as qualified. If Nolan wants to go in that direction and Jolie's on his shortlist, I'd hope that he'd consider someone else.
Mrs. Man Face: "You wouldn't hit a lady? Would you?"
Batman: "The Hammer Of Justice isUNISEX!"
-Batman: The Brave & The Bold -
What can I say, I'm old fashioned in that way. I'm also a great admirer of the female form, and to my way of thinking, it doesn't need any permanent graffiti to embellish it. ;%
Sorry, man but I don't find Jolie attractive enough to be Kyle/Catwoman at all. She's not ugly (face-wise) but she has such a weird shape to me - certainly not as well-proportioned as Halle Berry or Pfeiffer...especially BERRY.
Not many people are. :x
Yes, her sex appeal is over-hyped too. 8-)
Jolie runs hot and cold for me as well, but I do think she's attractive. Check her out in Tomb Raider or Original Sin, she can be feminine when she wants to be.
You take the pouty lips away from her and she's just average. There has to be someone else out there who's just as qualified. If Nolan wants to go in that direction and Jolie's on his shortlist, I'd hope that he'd consider someone else.
Well, you should also look at it from a business standpoint (which is where I was coming from). She does generate a lot of buzz and is a bona fide box office draw. The press just loves her and after all the drama that went down with Ledger I think you could use somebody like her to leverage the media, who I fear would be eager to criticize the next Batman movie when its villain doesn't measure up to Ledger.
If Michael Caine is to be believed, it looks like those rumors about Johnny Depp and Philip Seymour Hoffman may not be so far fetched after all (no mention of Cher, thank goodness).
LoeffelholzThe United States, With LovePosts: 8,998Quartermasters
edited September 2008
Well...who knows? If they can pull off signing either one (or both) of them, they've got my attention. For Catwoman...IMRO they need an Angelina Jolie---or someone with that kind of vibe...otherwise, leave that character alone. Much better to bring in Talia*, for crying out loud, if they're going to make yet another run at the 'femme fatale' thing.
*Megan Fox
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RogueAgentSpeeding in the Tumbler...Posts: 3,676MI6 Agent
If Michael Caine is to be believed, it looks like those rumors about Johnny Depp and Philip Seymour Hoffman may not be so far fetched after all (no mention of Cher, thank goodness).
If Michael Caine is to be believed, it looks like those rumors about Johnny Depp and Philip Seymour Hoffman may not be so far fetched after all (no mention of Cher, thank goodness).
I think Cher would be a wonderful piece of casting, as Catwoman, for the inevitable sequel. It has me thinking of a few more apropos casting coups to bring in those young, eager-to-spend audiences, dying to see the Viagra generation at it's thespian best.
I'm thinking Michael Douglas as The Lech, unable to keep his hands off the hotties 40 years younger. Ernest Borgnine as The Diddler(based on recent YouTube revelations). Madonna as IGOTABOUT1ANDAHALFMOREYEARSOFSEXYLEFTINMEBEFOREIHAVETOSTARTRENTING18YEAROLDCUBANGUYSATSOUTHBEACHCLUBS WOMAN.
I think this is just what this overbearing genre needs...to slit it's own throat.
NightshooterIn bed with SolitairePosts: 2,917MI6 Agent
If Michael Caine is to be believed, it looks like those rumors about Johnny Depp and Philip Seymour Hoffman may not be so far fetched after all
{[] I think that's wonderful news. Although I think that Depp and Hoffman are both a little overrated, I do however have alot of respect for both of them and I think they would be prefect as Riddler and Penguin respectively.
"He’s a man way out there in the blue, riding on a smile and a shoeshine. And when they start not smiling back—that’s an earthquake. and then you get yourself a couple of spots on your hat, and you’re finished. Nobody dast blame this man. A salesman is got to dream, boy. It comes with the territory." Death of a Salesman
What can I say, I'm old fashioned in that way. I'm also a great admirer of the female form, and to my way of thinking, it doesn't need any permanent graffiti to embellish it. ;%
) Another thing we disagree on. (See page 30 of the IM thread. :v)
Sorry, man but I don't find Jolie attractive enough to be Kyle/Catwoman at all. She's not ugly (face-wise) but she has such a weird shape to me - certainly not as well-proportioned as Halle Berry or Pfeiffer...especially BERRY.
Not many people are. :x
Hear hear.
Regarding Jolie, I won't be devastated if she's not chosen, but I think that she's incredibly sexy, and a pretty good actress to boot, so I do think that she would be wonderful. :x
"He’s a man way out there in the blue, riding on a smile and a shoeshine. And when they start not smiling back—that’s an earthquake. and then you get yourself a couple of spots on your hat, and you’re finished. Nobody dast blame this man. A salesman is got to dream, boy. It comes with the territory." Death of a Salesman
If Michael Caine is to be believed, it looks like those rumors about Johnny Depp and Philip Seymour Hoffman may not be so far fetched after all (no mention of Cher, thank goodness).
I think Cher would be a wonderful piece of casting, as Catwoman, for the inevitable sequel. It has me thinking of a few more apropos casting coups to bring in those young, eager-to-spend audiences, dying to see the Viagra generation at it's thespian best.
I'm thinking Michael Douglas as The Lech, unable to keep his hands off the hotties 40 years younger. Ernest Borgnine as The Diddler(based on recent YouTube revelations). Madonna as IGOTABOUT1ANDAHALFMOREYEARSOFSEXYLEFTINMEBEFOREIHAVETOSTARTRENTING18YEAROLDCUBANGUYSATSOUTHBEACHCLUBS WOMAN.
I think this is just what this overbearing genre needs...to slit it's own throat.
So much for your promise never to return. I'm happy to see you continue to bring meaningful insight and contributions to this thread. It must get pretty lonely in that ivory tower of yours.
It brings me endless joy to know that a genre that you obviously despise so much continues to gain widespread appeal. It makes me even happier to know that a film you hate so much continues to bring in bucketloads of cash.
You know, for all your snarky remarks and cutesy animations, you really aren't particularly clever. Oh, you try real hard to be hip and irreverent, but you're just offensive; and the only overbearing thing around here is your snotty, insulting, arrogant, trolling posts.
DrMaybe, Night and Tony have addressed your comments superbly, but I have to ask; what is your problem? On Sweepy's Batman thread, you make a comment about it being yet another Batman thread; in the 'Either This Or That' game you respond to my question about Woody Allen with a comment that it's not about comic-book movies; and now you are trolling, and I use that word deliberately, on this thread!
You don't like Batman or comicbook films, fine, but the rest of us do, and perhaps you could pay us the curtesy of not attacking these films, and us as well, on a thread dedicated to Batman.
I mean, if you didn't like DK or the Nolan films, but enjoyed the Comics or the show or the Burton/Schumaker films, great, but it seems to me that you don't like anything about Batman and your only purpose for being here is to attack Batman and other comicbook films as well as their fans such as us, and to show that you're better than us.
Well, I have news for you; you are not better than us. Regardless of which films you may or may not like, or how much about cinema you may or may not know, the one difference between us and you, is that we are able to discuss, debate and revel in our passions without having to put down others who have different passions. X-(
"He’s a man way out there in the blue, riding on a smile and a shoeshine. And when they start not smiling back—that’s an earthquake. and then you get yourself a couple of spots on your hat, and you’re finished. Nobody dast blame this man. A salesman is got to dream, boy. It comes with the territory." Death of a Salesman
RogueAgentSpeeding in the Tumbler...Posts: 3,676MI6 Agent
Wow. Everyone else already summed it up beautifully so there's nothing really for me to add to the defense...
Let's all get back to the Batman talk in a positive light. B-)
Mrs. Man Face: "You wouldn't hit a lady? Would you?"
Batman: "The Hammer Of Justice isUNISEX!"
-Batman: The Brave & The Bold -
For one thing, since you asked, as I have said before, I am giving my opinion on this film, and if you bother to check my previous comments in this thread, I have not sniped any member with any kind of personal attack. Unlike you fellows, who have taken shots at me for expressing my opinion. If this thread is solely for praising this film and the comix-based Hwood product, it should be stated so, at the beginning of this and all the other comix threads. Forums are for expressing opinions, not agreeing on your particular points of view. If you start a thread, expect to get someone who disagrees with you.
The fact that you have trotted out the "Troll" word to squelch any opposing viewpoints shows me how overbearing and humorless the fan base for this stuff is. And bumping or starting one comix thread after another, 7 days a week, in an attempt to monopolize the convo, could also be viewed as trollish behavior(or at the very least boorish). Since you guys flood the forum with these type threads, expect to get negative criticism from time to time. That's the nature of conversation.
As for your repeated arguement that this film is good because it's making "bucketloads" of money, may I remind you that ticket prices are nearly double what they were when Titanic was released. And Titanic did not have the merchandise tie-ins (action figures, etc.)that the Batman franchise enjoys. Even a bomb can rake in $300 mil world-wide now. And as far as making a lot of money=quality film goes, I don't think I've ever heard anybody rave about how good Titanic was, in my travels.
As for sniping my animated signature, at least I made it myself...from scratch.
Even a bomb can rake in $300 mil world-wide now. And as far as making a lot of money=quality film goes, I don't think I've ever heard anybody rave about how good Titanic was, in my travels.
Well, you just haven't traveled far enough, Doctor. I really like Titanic---including the sappy romantic trappings. The script is regularly trotted out during screenwriting seminars as an example of what a structurally effective script looks like. Structurally, it's nearly perfect. Of course, opinions will vary, but---whatever cinematic snobbery now runs the table, with regard to this particular picture---this film isn't the #1 grossing film of all time because it sucks, IMRO. Is it the best picture ever? Of course not...nowhere near it. It has innumerable flaws...but it seems to have ably accomplished what it set out to do, which is to be seen, and to entertain. At the very least, it struck a remarkably resonant chord with its audience...which was, as history impartially records, rather large. I saw Titanic twice: once on Christmas Day, and once on Easter Sunday. That's a pretty good run at the movie house.
I'm rather bemused by your insistent loitering on this particular thread---which revolves around a character and genre for which you obviously have no regard. No---you didn't launch a personal attack at any ONE person; you launched a personal attack at the ENTIRE FAN BASE. I think your opinion---such as it is, bigotry and all |) ---is known to everyone by now. What else needs to be said...unless you simply enjoy irritating people? If that's all there is to you...if that's all you bring to the table, except for a clever username and a fashion designer avatar...it's a bit sad, isn't it.
Have you made your ten friends yet? ?:)
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"I am not an entrant in the Shakespeare Stakes." - Ian Fleming
"Screw 'em." - Daniel Craig, The Best James Bond EverTM
If this thread is solely for praising this film and the comix-based Hwood product, it should be stated so, at the beginning of this and all the other comix threads. Forums are for expressing opinions, not agreeing on your particular points of view. If you start a thread, expect to get someone who disagrees with you.
You’re not the only person to voice a dissenting opinion on TDK in this thread.
It's portentous, overlong and the focus on gritty realism makes me think that it is not only Bond who is currently being over-influenced by the Bourne movies. Talk about grim. I admired the film, but I felt quite miserable after watching it.
And in defence of comic books, here’s Umberto Eco on his favourite reading material.
"I can read the Bible, Homer, or Dylan Dog for several days without being bored."
(There should be a picture ^. It doesn't always work for me)
NightshooterIn bed with SolitairePosts: 2,917MI6 Agent
Just in case you wanted to see Dark Knight in Imax but didn't get the chance, it looks like WB will be re-releasing the movie theatrically in that format in January as part of their push to get the movie some Academy Award consideration.
The just released October issue of Cinefex magazine has a very lengthy and informative article on the making of The Dark Knight. As it is more of a technical magazine about the nuts and bolts of filmmaking the article goes into a lot of detail about numerous aspects of the production - everything from how the stunts were staged to how Two-Face's appearance was conceived and brought to the screen.
This issue also has articles on Indiana Jones and the Crystal Skull and Hellboy 2. At $12.50 an issue Cinefex a little pricey, but it is a very well produced publication with lots of images that never show up anywhere else. Highly recommended.
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The draw for the semi-finals of the 1974 Celebrity Film Director ping-pong competition.
NP, you must know who these geezers are. You've been posting reviews of films I've never even heard of in the Last Film Seen thread.
Eric Rohmer makes films about French people talking to each other.
Claude Chabrol makes primarily thrillers and is often compared to Hitchcock. Two of his films, Dr M and Madame Bovary made me want to eat my television so I didn't have to watch them any more. Dr M also had one of the worst performances I've ever seen by an actor that isn't Sean Penn in I am Sam. Some German fella. Awful.
I know you've heard of these two. Sergio Corbucci made Django and Sergio Leone made A Fistful of Dollars etc.
Now any word on that pigeon?
I'm no expert on Chabrol, so I won't comment on this, except to ask what is this thing you have against Sean Penn?
Corbucci is terrific (I loved Django) but Leone was IMO truly among the very greatest film directors of all time.
Black Mask
Catwoman
Riddler
(The return of 'The Scarecrow' is a possibility although I wouldn't recast 'The Joker' just yet)
It's the whole being a conceited, overrated, spoilt Hollywood brat with an overriding sense of his own importance. You know, that's pretty much it. Oh and being a complete **** during his marriage to Madonna. Oh and liking Bukowski and Kerouac, who may have been decent writers but whose worldview is overwhelmingly adolescent. For being a lousy director. For starring in I Am Sam. Do enjoy Tropic Thunder though Dan. Downey Jr nails him. My word it's funny. "You never go full retard." So I'll admit to having a slight problem with him. Maybe just a tad.
Sorry this is completely off-topic. So let me tie it into The Dark Knight by thanking God that they cast a proper thespian like Eric Roberts. Best of the Best, By the Sword, The Ambulance. Beat that I Am Sam.
Actually....NO. 8-)
We've seen her twice already and if it's imperative that another female should be cast, then make it Ra's daughter Talia who'd own Catwoman.
I'll still hold out for The Riddler or Black Mask.
Batman: "The Hammer Of Justice is UNISEX!"
-Batman: The Brave & The Bold -
Although to be fair, neither Michelle Pfeiffer's repressed secretary or Halle Berry's repressed graphics designer were particularly faithful to the comics character and both had plenty of room for improvement.
Nobody has really played Catwoman as Selina Kyle, bored socialite, part-time cat-burglar and eventual anti-heroine. I think in Nolan's hands that could be an interesting character. Her current costume with the catsuit and goggles also fits nicely with Nolan's more "realistic" sensibilities. Also, exploring the inevitable relationship between the characters even as Bruce struggles with Rachel's death might make for some good drama and character development.
As to who should play Catwoman, despite all the baggage she comes with, Angelina Jolie is a good actress and would probably make a physically impressive Catwoman (once they airbrush out all the tattoos). She would also bring tons of buzz and publicity to the proceedings and is the kind of actress that could stand up to the inevitable comparisons and reminiscenses of Heath Ledger's Joker.
However, I do think that there would have to be a second villain as I don't think Catwoman is interesting enough to carry a movie on her own. Though it probably won't shake down this way, I wouldn't mind seeing Two-Face and Catwoman as the antagonists in the next film; Two-Face because I really don't think they used him enough in Dark Knight and he is after all the key to Batman getting off the hook for the murders. Aaron Eckhart really held in own in Dark Knight and even in his scenes with Ledger, he was never upstaged by anybody. And Catwoman because she could be used to explore other aspects of Batman and Bruce Wayne that Nolan hasn't really touched on yet.
You and tats.
Sorry, man but I don't find Jolie attractive enough to be Kyle/Catwoman at all. She's not ugly (face-wise) but she has such a weird shape to me
Yes, her sex appeal is over-hyped too. 8-)
You take the pouty lips away from her and she's just average. There has to be someone else out there who's just as qualified. If Nolan wants to go in that direction and Jolie's on his shortlist, I'd hope that he'd consider someone else.
Batman: "The Hammer Of Justice is UNISEX!"
-Batman: The Brave & The Bold -
What can I say, I'm old fashioned in that way. I'm also a great admirer of the female form, and to my way of thinking, it doesn't need any permanent graffiti to embellish it. ;%
Not many people are. :x
Jolie runs hot and cold for me as well, but I do think she's attractive. Check her out in Tomb Raider or Original Sin, she can be feminine when she wants to be.
Well, you should also look at it from a business standpoint (which is where I was coming from). She does generate a lot of buzz and is a bona fide box office draw. The press just loves her and after all the drama that went down with Ledger I think you could use somebody like her to leverage the media, who I fear would be eager to criticize the next Batman movie when its villain doesn't measure up to Ledger.
http://movies.ign.com/articles/908/908617p1.html
*Megan Fox
"I am not an entrant in the Shakespeare Stakes." - Ian Fleming
"Screw 'em." - Daniel Craig, The Best James Bond EverTM
*trying to hold back happy dance*
Batman: "The Hammer Of Justice is UNISEX!"
-Batman: The Brave & The Bold -
I think Cher would be a wonderful piece of casting, as Catwoman, for the inevitable sequel. It has me thinking of a few more apropos casting coups to bring in those young, eager-to-spend audiences, dying to see the Viagra generation at it's thespian best.
I'm thinking Michael Douglas as The Lech, unable to keep his hands off the hotties 40 years younger. Ernest Borgnine as The Diddler(based on recent YouTube revelations). Madonna as IGOTABOUT1ANDAHALFMOREYEARSOFSEXYLEFTINMEBEFOREIHAVETOSTARTRENTING18YEAROLDCUBANGUYSATSOUTHBEACHCLUBS WOMAN.
I think this is just what this overbearing genre needs...to slit it's own throat.
Speaking of which... 8-)
Hear hear.
Regarding Jolie, I won't be devastated if she's not chosen, but I think that she's incredibly sexy, and a pretty good actress to boot, so I do think that she would be wonderful. :x
So much for your promise never to return. I'm happy to see you continue to bring meaningful insight and contributions to this thread. It must get pretty lonely in that ivory tower of yours.
It brings me endless joy to know that a genre that you obviously despise so much continues to gain widespread appeal. It makes me even happier to know that a film you hate so much continues to bring in bucketloads of cash.
You know, for all your snarky remarks and cutesy animations, you really aren't particularly clever. Oh, you try real hard to be hip and irreverent, but you're just offensive; and the only overbearing thing around here is your snotty, insulting, arrogant, trolling posts.
You don't like Batman or comicbook films, fine, but the rest of us do, and perhaps you could pay us the curtesy of not attacking these films, and us as well, on a thread dedicated to Batman.
I mean, if you didn't like DK or the Nolan films, but enjoyed the Comics or the show or the Burton/Schumaker films, great, but it seems to me that you don't like anything about Batman and your only purpose for being here is to attack Batman and other comicbook films as well as their fans such as us, and to show that you're better than us.
Well, I have news for you; you are not better than us. Regardless of which films you may or may not like, or how much about cinema you may or may not know, the one difference between us and you, is that we are able to discuss, debate and revel in our passions without having to put down others who have different passions. X-(
Let's all get back to the Batman talk in a positive light. B-)
Batman: "The Hammer Of Justice is UNISEX!"
-Batman: The Brave & The Bold -
For one thing, since you asked, as I have said before, I am giving my opinion on this film, and if you bother to check my previous comments in this thread, I have not sniped any member with any kind of personal attack. Unlike you fellows, who have taken shots at me for expressing my opinion. If this thread is solely for praising this film and the comix-based Hwood product, it should be stated so, at the beginning of this and all the other comix threads. Forums are for expressing opinions, not agreeing on your particular points of view. If you start a thread, expect to get someone who disagrees with you.
The fact that you have trotted out the "Troll" word to squelch any opposing viewpoints shows me how overbearing and humorless the fan base for this stuff is. And bumping or starting one comix thread after another, 7 days a week, in an attempt to monopolize the convo, could also be viewed as trollish behavior(or at the very least boorish). Since you guys flood the forum with these type threads, expect to get negative criticism from time to time. That's the nature of conversation.
As for your repeated arguement that this film is good because it's making "bucketloads" of money, may I remind you that ticket prices are nearly double what they were when Titanic was released. And Titanic did not have the merchandise tie-ins (action figures, etc.)that the Batman franchise enjoys. Even a bomb can rake in $300 mil world-wide now. And as far as making a lot of money=quality film goes, I don't think I've ever heard anybody rave about how good Titanic was, in my travels.
As for sniping my animated signature, at least I made it myself...from scratch.
...and if you took the time to read this thread, you will see that I didn't like this movie, at all...however I explained my reasons why!
Disagreements are fine, but you just seem to attack.
Really, this is one of the funniest threads on here....
What, 4 threads out of hundreds....(after the release of 4 comic book movies in the past few months....?:) )
I'm not sure you know what that is....
and as for - oh you know what, I can't be bothered....
Well, you just haven't traveled far enough, Doctor. I really like Titanic---including the sappy romantic trappings. The script is regularly trotted out during screenwriting seminars as an example of what a structurally effective script looks like. Structurally, it's nearly perfect. Of course, opinions will vary, but---whatever cinematic snobbery now runs the table, with regard to this particular picture---this film isn't the #1 grossing film of all time because it sucks, IMRO. Is it the best picture ever? Of course not...nowhere near it. It has innumerable flaws...but it seems to have ably accomplished what it set out to do, which is to be seen, and to entertain. At the very least, it struck a remarkably resonant chord with its audience...which was, as history impartially records, rather large. I saw Titanic twice: once on Christmas Day, and once on Easter Sunday. That's a pretty good run at the movie house.
I'm rather bemused by your insistent loitering on this particular thread---which revolves around a character and genre for which you obviously have no regard. No---you didn't launch a personal attack at any ONE person; you launched a personal attack at the ENTIRE FAN BASE. I think your opinion---such as it is, bigotry and all
Have you made your ten friends yet? ?:)
"I am not an entrant in the Shakespeare Stakes." - Ian Fleming
"Screw 'em." - Daniel Craig, The Best James Bond EverTM
You’re not the only person to voice a dissenting opinion on TDK in this thread.
And in defence of comic books, here’s Umberto Eco on his favourite reading material.
"I can read the Bible, Homer, or Dylan Dog for several days without being bored."
(There should be a picture ^. It doesn't always work for me)
http://movies.ign.com/articles/909/909311p1.html
This issue also has articles on Indiana Jones and the Crystal Skull and Hellboy 2. At $12.50 an issue Cinefex a little pricey, but it is a very well produced publication with lots of images that never show up anywhere else. Highly recommended.
http://www.cinefex.com