For the Anti-Craig Crowd...
Loeffelholz
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Here's one for the detractors of (Formerly) Poor DannyTM:
http://www.mi6.co.uk/news/index.php?itemid=5133
Sure, it's the Sun---and it's very likely untrue---but let it never be said all hope is lost
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I'm sure this is being received with great enthusiasm over at danielcraigspicturenexttoamonkey.com...
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Personally, I hope the fellow does four more... :007) -{
http://www.mi6.co.uk/news/index.php?itemid=5133
Sure, it's the Sun---and it's very likely untrue---but let it never be said all hope is lost
)I'm sure this is being received with great enthusiasm over at danielcraigspicturenexttoamonkey.com...
|)Personally, I hope the fellow does four more... :007) -{
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"I am not an entrant in the Shakespeare Stakes." - Ian Fleming
"Screw 'em." - Daniel Craig, The Best James Bond EverTM
"I am not an entrant in the Shakespeare Stakes." - Ian Fleming
"Screw 'em." - Daniel Craig, The Best James Bond EverTM
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I would rather DC do one good film rather than one good and 4 more DAD types.
Bond’s Beretta
The Handguns of Ian Fleming's James Bond
This story is precisely intended to stoke things up during a quiet spell whilst the next Bond is still in pre-production. I really think that, failing some remarkable development, Craig will fulfill his three-picture deal (at least). After that, it will be more about how much Eon is willing to pay him, picture-by-picture---and whether Craig still has any interest in what they're doing with the character; he strikes me as the sort who will walk away from Big Money if he's bored...
"I am not an entrant in the Shakespeare Stakes." - Ian Fleming
"Screw 'em." - Daniel Craig, The Best James Bond EverTM
EON has been very uneven in the past regards quality. It seems that after the first three Bonds they have had alot of trouble keeping with uniformly good product - regardless of who was playing Bond and what type of Bond film one prefers. They seem to wander all over the map.
Hopefully DC has some influence over what the tone and scripts will look like ( after all he made EON a giant pot of cash) and they will want to keep him happy!!
But better he walks out than walks through!
BTW: Just saw Die Hard 3 - amazing how many elements from CR'06 they had picked up and used. Then I suppose one could argue CR'06 took elements from the earlier Die Hard flicks
Bond’s Beretta
The Handguns of Ian Fleming's James Bond
He is really good as Bond, and I think that he should do about 4-5 films, and think that all of those should have Fleming titles too (eg - risico, hidebrand rarity, quantum of solace, property of a lady).
Having said that, he shouldn't do too many either. I think 4-5 Bond films would be the perfect number.
Plus, if he only does one more, then there would be tremendous speculation again, as to who will be the next Bond, and in my opinion, the huge build-up and speculation might lead up to something that's dissapointing as the new actor may only do about 2 Bond films, then 'bugger off' again, then ANOTHER new Bond in the pipeline...
2, in my opinion, is not enough.
1 - Moore, 2 - Dalton, 3 - Craig, 4 - Connery, 5 - Brosnan, 6 - Lazenby
I agree with this assessment.In fact,your prediction almost exactly mirrors what happened with Sean Connery and Eon in 1967.Even after Eon/UA offered him what they then considered big money,he still walked away.
Seriously, although I'm no fan of the Craigster
I think you have things in the proper perspective, my friend
"I am not an entrant in the Shakespeare Stakes." - Ian Fleming
"Screw 'em." - Daniel Craig, The Best James Bond EverTM
Sounds as if you are mellowing a tad!
Years ago I HATED GL, but he grew on me.
Maybe "Old Potato Head" will eventually endear himself.
Who knows, Maybe someday I will come to like the Red Headed Bond!
Bond’s Beretta
The Handguns of Ian Fleming's James Bond
Thanks. -{
EON should have signed GL for three and held his feet to the fire, and both Moore and Brosnan should have done less. Dalton can be excused from the "rule of three" as the lawsuits messed up the production calender.
Switching Bonds more often would allow the producers to vary the style of each picture and keep them from getting into a "rut" that results in a Moonraker or Die Another Day.
Bond’s Beretta
The Handguns of Ian Fleming's James Bond
This news would normally have me jumping for joy, however it's simply "TOO GOOD to be TRUE!"
Daniel Craig did not accept such a prestigious role with a brief stint (2 films) in mind. Furthermore, if Craig is under contract to do 3 films, he will do 3 films. He is a professional; I'll give him that.
However, if the Sun is right about this, and Danny walks away after 2, I will buy you a drink Loeffs. Hell, I'll even have one with you (I'll be 21 in February)! {[]
It will certainly be a time to celebrate!
-Roger Moore
Hell, even when this rumour turns out to be the unmitigated bull**** I expect it is, we'll still have that drink---to #22 being in production! {[]
"I am not an entrant in the Shakespeare Stakes." - Ian Fleming
"Screw 'em." - Daniel Craig, The Best James Bond EverTM
Bond’s Beretta
The Handguns of Ian Fleming's James Bond
"I am not an entrant in the Shakespeare Stakes." - Ian Fleming
"Screw 'em." - Daniel Craig, The Best James Bond EverTM
And Dalton was great, thank you very much, Dan Same.
CLIVE OWEN IS JAMES BOND 007!!!
MAKE HUGH JACKMAN THE NEXT JAMES BOND!!!
and possibly the most common phrase:
BRING BACK BROSNAN!!!!
Finally, I don't think that Craig was all that great as Bond. He is fourth on my list (above Lazenby and Dalton) and there's every good chance that Lazenby will overtake him. I consider Connery, Brosnan and Moore to have been the best Bonds because to me they most skillfully balanced ruthlessness and suaveness. If I were to describe Bond in one short sentence, I would describe him as a gentlemanly killer. I don't mean that Bond wouldn't get his hands dirty or that he doesn't kill (on the contrary, he has no hesitation in doing so) but that he is no mere thug. I did not get this with Craig. In fact my problem with Craig is three-fold: IMO he came off as a thug with the only time that I got a sense of his sophistication being the final scene, and in fact I was not even convinced that he belonged in an upper-class environment like the casino; IMO he went through the entire film with just two emotions (anger and arrogance) which he varied in terms of degrees; and putting aside logic, he just didn't feel like Bond to me.
Those are my thoughts. I hope they are helpful to you.
The script seemed a bit confused, though. In CR Craig must go from sociopath thug to suave, talky Cary Grant type when he meets Vesper on the train. Nor did I find the character arc too smart: Bond learns to 'trust no one'. Except, of course, the betrayal by a leading lady or character we've seen in so many other Bond films like TWINE. His mistakes concerning ego in CR we've seen in any run of the mill Bond flick. But then this is a reboot with nothing to do with the other films, right?
That said, Craig is the first since Moore who cannot be physically likened to his predessors much. Any other actor would be compared to someone else. Craig breaks the mould, which is good. He helps make the series look fresh (even if he doesn't
Roger Moore 1927-2017
As what?
Dan,
I just can't help but feel you're dislike of DC is a validation of the films ultimate goals.
In CR'06 DC has just been made a "oo", he is not supposed to be the "suave gentleman agent with a license to kill". His charecter is intense, ambtious and driven. He makes his own judgements about how to handle his assignments, and gets so involved he makes bad choices (shooting Mollacka, wanting to knife LeChiffre).
Bond is very resourceful and intelligent, he tracks down Dimtirios, and LeChiffre as well as finding out M's name, residence and computer password. But he is easily manipulated by M, who sends him on vacation knowing he will keep working on the Mollacka connection. She tells him the "case is cold" after LeChiffre is dead - knowing that he will go after Mr. White.
The reboot shows Bond as a "blunt insturment" just as Fleming described him - he is NOT the Connery/Young invented "gentleman agent". Like the literary Bond, DC's oo7 is incapable of undercover work - everyone he follows either spots him, or he reveals himself to them.
Bond's supreme confidence allows Vesper and/or Mathis to betray him - Bond is just not smart enough yet to be constantly suspicious of EVERYONE.
Therefore Bond is supposed to be both angry and arrogent in the majority of this film. He falls hard for Vesper and gets hurt - just as the literary Bond was. In the book Bond's future motivation becomes focused when he vows revenge against the evil (SMERSH) that uses innocents like Vesper for their twisted ends.
Bond is not meant to be truly sophisticated until that last scene, when he has finally begun to develop into that "gentleman" agent. That is why they play the "James Bond Theme" at the end of the film.
But you know all this already. So I think what you are saying is that logic aside DC just does'nt seem Bondian enough. I would just ask that you reserve judgement until Bond 22 when the arc will be more apparent.
For me, I dislike the last scene with the three piece suit and the Darth Vader rifle. It seems out of place to me. I am tired of the "gentleman agent" Connery/Young take on Bond.
CR'06's bloodied, arrogent, vulnerable man with a lucky streak a mile wide is much closer to the literary Bond than any film yet made. The fact that DC is blonder than SC,GL and PB doesn't bother me a bit. Since I was ten years old every dark haired Brit who could put one foot in front of the other has been touted as oo7 - can you say GL?
What has been lacking is a charecter driven screenplay worthy of Bond's creator. For me CR'06
is a close as anyone has come.
I am dreading Bond 22, because Fleming will be abandonded and without his template Purvis & Wade have made messes out of previous films. CR'06 is so different than previous Bond films I wonder who changed the producer's meds?
I am guardedly looking forward to seeing DC, Eva, Giancarlo, Jeffrey and Judy coming together again.
Who knows, I may be complaining about the next one and Dan - you will be defending it!
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The Handguns of Ian Fleming's James Bond
Bond’s Beretta
The Handguns of Ian Fleming's James Bond
No, it is about logic. My problem is that, as NP noted, Bond goes from thug to gentleman all because he gets betrayed by a woman. I found it too hard to believe, not to mention cliched. Plus there were times when I was questioning whether he would really be a 00 based on some of his behaviour (such as breaking into M's apartment.) Some of my objections to Craig are not born out of logic, but many are.
Finally, I don't think it says much about CR if my problems with CR decome absolved in Bond 22. I don't think there should be any problems in the first place.
He is a brunette, but I think that Clive Owen could have been great as Bond.
Me too.
Perhaps. 7289, it should be pointed out, that while I don't love CR, it is nowhere near my least-favourite Bond film. I did enjoy it, although I do have alot of problems with it. :007)