Cameras roll on #22 this week!!!

Loeffelholz · August 2007

This one surprised me a bit---all of a sudden, it seems, a piece of Bond #22 is to be photographed this week:

http://www.mi6.co.uk/sections/articles/bond_22_preprod_diary05.php3?t=&s=

Apparently this horse race is only run twice a year, so Eon will have 14 cameras (!) there to get footage, with film of the principal actors to (of course) be added later...if MI6 is right, this will be background to a climactic chase scene...

Contact Music is reporting that animal rights activists are up in arms...

7289 · August 2007

According to the article, Bond 22 appears to be Euro based, much like CR - that's good news! The better Bond films are either Carribean or Euro based!!!

I am really sorry they never did the book "Moonraker" justice - it would be wonderful to see Bond at home in the UK!

Loeffelholz · August 2007

I love this news...things are moving forward B-)

Georgiboy · August 2007

Sounds like there could be a cool horse chase in the movie. That would be different and original.

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Tilly Masterson 007 · August 2007

Georgiboy wrote:

Sounds like there could be a cool horse chase in the movie. That would be different and original.

Didn't they have a brief horse chasing scene with Bond and Zorin from AVTAK?

Number24 · August 2007

Well, this isn't a horse chase. It's a foot chase set in a town where a horse race is going on. But yes, this looks really good. My reservation is: Bond 22 shouldn't be set exclusively in "Old Europe", in places where the upper class went to holidaqy 100 years ago.
Cooler, more exitic places like Malaysia, Brasil or South Africa (just examples) should also be used.

John Drake · August 2007

Excellent news. And it's only a few months before principal shooting. :007)

Georgiboy · August 2007

Tilly Masterson 007 wrote:

Georgiboy wrote:

Sounds like there could be a cool horse chase in the movie. That would be different and original.

Didn't they have a brief horse chasing scene with Bond and Zorin from AVTAK?

Yes but that was just a small little course Zorin had and it was and pretty straightforward and there wasn't much suspense in the scene.

highhopes · August 2007

Number24 wrote:

Well, this isn't a horse chase. It's a foot chase set in a town where a horse race is going on. But yes, this looks really good. My reservation is: Bond 22 shouldn't be set exclusively in "Old Europe", in places where the upper class went to holidaqy 100 years ago.
Cooler, more exitic places like Malaysia, Brasil or South Africa (just examples) should also be used.

7289 wrote:

According to the article, Bond 22 appears to be Euro based, much like CR - that's good news! The better Bond films are either Carribean or Euro based!!!

I am really sorry they never did the book "Moonraker" justice - it would be wonderful to see Bond at home in the UK!

I agree with both you. I like the more "exotic" locales, but I also love the European aspects of the Bond world. Bond is, after all, European, and it seems fitting that he should find himself there on occasion. Besides, I found the shot of the train snaking through the valley at night in CR incredibly romantic, in part because no one travels by train the States anymore (a great loss, in my view, but understandable given the distances involved).
But the story really should determine the locations. And in a story about terrorism, Europe would seem like a logical setting for at least some scenes. There's been quite a bit of activity on that front going back many, many years, involving many, many groups.
I'm just glad the cameras are rolling. Isn't it a bit early?

John Drake · August 2007

highhopes wrote:

I'm just glad the cameras are rolling. Isn't it a bit early?

I think they're getting footage of the race now, because it only runs a couple of times a year. Principal shooting will begin in the winter. I'm glad they seem to have planned ahead. It does look like they have a very clear idea of what Bond 22 is going to be.

highhopes · August 2007

John Drake wrote:

highhopes wrote:

I'm just glad the cameras are rolling. Isn't it a bit early?

I think they're getting footage of the race now, because it only runs a couple of times a year. Principal shooting will begin in the winter. I'm glad they seem to have planned ahead. It does look like they have a very clear idea of what Bond 22 is going to be.

You're right. I didn't see Loeff's post above. It sounds like a great place for a Bond finale to me. In fact, I think I saw something about the race on the History Channel a while back. Here's a link to a wikipedia article:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palio_di_Siena

Qwerty · August 2007

And today there are some further updates on this news: http://commanderbond.net/article/4455

Loeffelholz · August 2007

Thanks very much, Qwerty {[] I'm interested to hear that this isn't necessarily a 'climactic' sequence---and a bit relieved, if truth be told. Not that I've any problem with a climax happening this way, but I'm just expecting something...else. This seems like more of an Act 1 or Act 2 sequence to me...just my own 'gut feeling.'

Dan Same · August 2007

Qwerty wrote:

And today there are some further updates on this news:

Sounds great.

I loved the foot chases in CR, and so another one, if done well, would be terrific.

Nonetheless, I am still waiting to learn what the title will be. Once we hear what the title is, it will help determine what kind of film Bond 22 will be.

youknowmyname · August 2007

Dan Same wrote:

Qwerty wrote:

And today there are some further updates on this news:

Sounds great. I loved the foot chases in CR, and so another one, if done well, would be terrific.

Nonetheless, I am still waiting to learn what the title will be. Once we hear what the title is, it will help determine what kind of film Bond 22 will be.

can't agree more Same, I check Mi6 everyday to see if BOND 22 has a title yet...can't wait. looking forward to what the chase scene might be, and love the idea of a European centered Bond. we'll have to see who Bond goes after and just how much ass he kicks!

taity · August 2007

I think what they'll do is just get some basic foortage that they throw into the background. In Moonraker they did the same thing with the Carnival in Rio.

I hope it isnt the finale, I really want to see a big, overblown finale ala Goldfinger.

jetsetwilly · August 2007

I'm a bit disappointed by the stipulation that there can be no violence involving the animals filmed. Without wanting to sound bloodthirsty, I quite fancied the idea of the villain being pushed off the roof and then trampled to death by the horses - very Lion King

blueman · August 2007

Do horses eat people?

Hardyboy · August 2007

jetsetwilly wrote:

I'm a bit disappointed by the stipulation that there can be no violence involving the animals filmed.

What's silly about this outrage is that filmmakers hardly ever put animals in danger anymore--laying cables to trip horses, starving lions to make them more fierce, etc. It's all done by CGI. Or are people concerned about the rights of virtual horses now?

Number24 · August 2007

blueman wrote:

Do horses eat people?

No. Horses don't eat people, they eat grass.
Don't be so horrible morbid!
Pigs, on the other hand ....:v

Loeffelholz · August 2007

More updates here, adding to what Myrrdin has already posted in another thread:

http://www.mi6.co.uk/sections/articles/bond_22_preprod_diary06.php3?t=&s=

It's cool that Craig was there, even if only as a tourist, essentially---he looks to have had a good time...

Nice tidbit (if true!) about...

...the Aston Martin showing up here in Italy... :007)

youknowmyname · August 2007

Hardyboy wrote:

jetsetwilly wrote:

I'm a bit disappointed by the stipulation that there can be no violence involving the animals filmed.

What's silly about this outrage is that filmmakers hardly ever put animals in danger anymore--laying cables to trip horses, starving lions to make them more fierce, etc. It's all done by CGI. Or are people concerned about the rights of virtual horses now?

No joke, you could have a scene where CGI horses are getting injured. Lord of the Rings did it, and there was no problem. However, it's also a question of budget and how well the CGI looks. For me I think a no CGI Bond is the way to go, horse trampling or not! I though DAD was over the top w/ CGI and CR was back to basics. Wait and see what the scene looks like next Nov.

Loeffelholz · August 2007

Yet more stuff on possible locations in Italy...plus a bit of pre-debunked rumour concerning Angelina Jolie...plus the possible inclusion of the Aston Martin... a huge grain of salt has been added for your convenience...

http://www.mi6.co.uk/sections/articles/bond_22_preprod_diary07.php3?t=&s=

youknowmyname · August 2007

Loeffelholz wrote:

Yet more stuff on possible locations in Italy...plus a bit of pre-debunked rumour concerning Angelina Jolie...plus the possible inclusion of the Aston Martin... a huge grain of salt has been added for your convenience...

http://www.mi6.co.uk/sections/articles/bond_22_preprod_diary07.php3?t=&s=

Not to mention the Mi6 note regarding Michael G. Wilson headed to LA and reading Goldfinger. Credible? Hum, reading Goldfiner, wouldn't that be pretty much picked over for plot stuff? Maybe just some pleasure reading, or he's reading through for character notes, or just to get himself in the mood to talk Bond. I don't know, we are all left to speculate...?:)

jetsetwilly · August 2007

youknowmyname wrote:

Not to mention the Mi6 note regarding Michael G. Wilson headed to LA and reading Goldfinger. Credible? Hum, reading Goldfiner, wouldn't that be pretty much picked over for plot stuff? Maybe just some pleasure reading, or he's reading through for character notes, or just to get himself in the mood to talk Bond. I don't know, we are all left to speculate...?:)

Could we finally see Oddjob's legendary cat dinner onscreen?

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delon64 · August 2007

as a korean resident i always take exception to this and it is an example of fleming for once getting his details wrong...the korean people might be guilty of wolfing down the odd dog or two...the infamous boshintang or dog soup...but never cats not even post the ceasefire when times were grim...the southern chinese on the other hand believe that cat spine soup is good for arthritis and often eat it...bon appetit

7289 · August 2007

delon64 wrote:

as a korean resident i always take exception to this and it is an example of fleming for once getting his details wrong...

Fleming himself said that he got at least one detail wrong in every book despite his checking and rechecking them.

The bit with the cat, one of Fleming's more "infamous" shock sequences, seems relevant here because of the horse race controversy. Anything that seems to puts an animal in jeopardy gets immmediate attention!

Prehaps Oddjob was really from Southern China and Goldfinger misunderstood - after all the only thing Oddjob ever said was "Garch a har"!

However, Fleming is not kind to the Korean's in this book and there is no way around that!

jetsetwilly · August 2007

I never even considered Oddjob's consumption of the cat from an ethnic perspective (sorry if I caused any offence delon); I'd never linked it with his Korean nationality. I had always seen it as an example of Oddjob's brutality and perversity, in line with other Fleming henchmen. His fondness for eating cats was put in the same category as Wint or Kidd (I can't remember which) sucking his thumb, Grant's moon-related sadism, or Le Chiffre's benzedrine inhaler; it was strange, and alien, and pretty repulsive.

Loeffelholz · August 2007

More stuff...SPOILER ALERT:

http://commanderbond.net/article/4470

Apparently, more location scouting has been rumoured to have taken place in "the Basilicata region of southern Italy."

Interesting speculation on the part of the CBn member that the town of Craco could pass for Northern Africa---Algeria, specifically

Number24 · August 2007

This is very exiting! The locations mentioned before look great, but bond needs to get out of Europe for some scenes too. This town standing in for Algeria sounds logical, since visiting Algeria is almost suicidal for westerners nowadays.

Number24 · August 2007

I think this location will stand in for Algeria.
There is a very bloody civil war in Algeria and it's allmost suicidal for westerneres to enter the country.

Cameras roll on #22 this week!!!

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