Bond films in packs.

Sweepy the CatSweepy the Cat Halifax, West Yorkshire, EnglaPosts: 986MI6 Agent
As we all know the bond films always seem to come in packs. Some films are stand-alone and some come together in ane entire era (PB). What's your fave era (1-4 films) I like the first couple of bond films (DN and FRWL). Although missing lots of the key bond moments they are still good films and close to the book. What about you?
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  • Napoleon PluralNapoleon Plural LondonPosts: 10,467MI6 Agent
    I think I know what Sweepy means.

    The oddest era, for me, would have to be 1965-1971. These six years encompassed Thunderball, YOLT, OHMSS and DAF. And yet Bond's world is quite different in each of them, and each had a different director, lending a different flavour. There is little consistency, and OHMSS is a real oddball in comparison.

    Of course, with hindsight we can see that Bond became more iconic during this time, though less human or recognisable. The old Bond, James Bond catchphrase, the Aston Martin returns, the tux. There's a greater emphasis on all this and in some ways it resembles Brosnan's stint, which saw each film with a different director and a different world each time.

    For me, the first three films hang well together, though the excellent GF seems a disappointment when watched in close proximity to the first two.

    Maybe they go:

    Dr No + FRWL
    GF + TB
    YOLT + DAF
    LALD + TMWTGG
    YOLT + TSWLM + MR
    and I'm afraid I'd lump all the 80s films together except for AVTAK.
    OHMSS + CR, perhaps.
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  • AlexAlex The Eastern SeaboardPosts: 2,694MI6 Agent
    edited October 2007
    The first 4 films have honest screenplays with typical of the period quality craftmanship, (which gives us excellence) These toils transferred to celluloid are artwork in motion.

    I also believe '77 to '83 was a marvelous run.
  • Brosnan_fanBrosnan_fan Sydney, AustraliaPosts: 521MI6 Agent
    Alex wrote:
    I also believe '77 to '83 was a marvelous run.

    I would agree on this; TSWLM, MR, FYEO and OP were definitely the very best of Moore, and a good period for the franchise.

    Personally speaking, I don't mind FRWL to YOLT. -{
    "Well, he certainly left with his tails between his legs."
  • walther p99walther p99 NJPosts: 3,416MI6 Agent
    this is probably going to shock a few of you, but mines the Brosnan era.
  • Andy A 007Andy A 007 Posts: 199MI6 Agent
    edited October 2007
    I would seperate the eras as such:
    DN-TB
    YOLT-DAF
    LALD-MR
    FYEO-AVTAK
    TLD-GE (This may be a little unorthodox to seperate the Brosnan era, but GE is much darker than the other Brozz films and fits in more iwth the Dalton era IMO.)
    TND-DAD
    CR-Bond 23(Assuming DC does 3 Bond films as his contract entails.)

    It's far too early to tell, but i'd make a pretty safe bet that the Craig era will ultimately be my favorite after he has made a couple more Bonds.

    As far as the other era's go, I'd have to say the dark and gritty TLD-GE era would be my fav. DN-TB would take an extremely close second (Long live Connery!!!).
  • darenhatdarenhat The Old PuebloPosts: 2,029Quartermasters
    I have to agree with NP that the YOLT to DAF era was really odd, with OHMSS sticking out like a sore thumb. OHMSS was such a strong Bond film that it seems strange to be bookended by bizarre outings like YOLT and DAF. (For people who think that CR denotes a change in the formula...BEWARE! :o )
  • Sweepy the CatSweepy the Cat Halifax, West Yorkshire, EnglaPosts: 986MI6 Agent
    I've thought of some

    DN and FRWL
    GF and TB
    YOLT, OHMSS and DAF
    LALD and TMWTGG
    TSMLM and MR
    FYEO, OP and AVTAK
    TLD and LTK
    and
    GE, TND, TWINE and DAD
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  • RJJBRJJB United StatesPosts: 346MI6 Agent
    Picking up on the previous posts and assigning different ages: Please pardon the bad puns.

    Golden Age:
    DN through OHMSS

    Showing Its Age:
    DAF

    Sew-Age
    LALD through AVTAK

    Too Short an Age:
    LD and LTK

    New Age:
    GE through DAD

    True Bond-Age
    CR
  • LoeffelholzLoeffelholz The United States, With LovePosts: 8,998Quartermasters
    RJJB wrote:
    Picking up on the previous posts and assigning different ages: Please pardon the bad puns.

    Golden Age:
    DN through OHMSS

    Showing Its Age:
    DAF

    Sew-Age
    LALD through AVTAK

    Too Short an Age:
    LD and LTK

    New Age:
    GE through DAD

    True Bond-Age
    CR

    I rather like that, actually {[]
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  • Dan SameDan Same Victoria, AustraliaPosts: 6,054MI6 Agent
    edited November 2007
    I'm going to go with what NP basically said.
    I would pair up Dr No and FRWL, GF and TB (although I think that OHMSS could easily be grouped in with these two films), YOLT with TSWLM and MR, LALD with TMWTGG, FYEO with AVTAK, TLD and LTK, GE with TND and TWINE, DAF with OP and DAD, and I would probably pair up CR with OHMSS.

    In terms of quality, this is how I would group the Bond films:

    The Golden Age:
    DN-OHMSS. Although YOLT was a slight disappointment, all of the films released during this era were masterpieces and five of the films released during this era were IMO among the six best Bond films of all time. DN-TB remain my all-time four favourite Bond films while OHMSS is sixth on my list. This is the era in which IMO Bond came closer to perfection than in any other era. :D

    The Silver Age:
    DAF-OP. Although TMWTGG and MR were disappointments, I consider TSWLM to be the fifth greatest Bond film of all time (and the greatest non-Connery Bond film) and I love LALD, FYEO & OP. However, even TMWTGG and MR had redeeming qualities. I think that this was an absolutely brilliant era, and the last era in which I would use the term 'absolute masterpiece' to describe a film (in this case TSWLM.)

    The Bronze Age:
    GE-TWINE. An inconsistent era, true, but IMO it is still an era that has produced brilliance. GE was a flawed masterpiece, TWINE was fantastic and TND had a couple of truly great scenes. Plus, of course, this era had Brosnan; IMO the second best Bond of all time. Boy, do I want this era back. :#

    The Semi-Dark Age:
    DAD-CR. DAD is my third least-favourite films and I'm not a big fan of CR. I don't think that this era is without redeeming features (DAD did have Brosnan, and I don't hate CR) but this is still an era which I hope will soon pass. Sadly, the news that Craig has signed on for four more films means that this era will continue on for quite a while. :'(

    The Dark Age:
    AVTAK-LTK. AVTAK and TLD are my two least favourite Bond films, while LTK is fourth last. The disappointing thing about this era is that not only did we have to deal with Dalton, by far my least favourite Bond, but it provides evidence that nobody is perfect; that is, Moore, my third favourite Bond, should have stepped down after OP. ALthough LTK wasn't as horrible as the other two, it still has some nightmarish elements (such as Dalton's performance.)

    I avoid these three films as much as possible, and in fact, along with DAD; AVTAK, TLD and LTK are three of only four Bond films, which if they were on TV, I would not go out of my way to watch. A horrible era; IMO this remains the worst era in the history of the Bond films. Ugh! X-(
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  • Sir Hillary BraySir Hillary Bray College of ArmsPosts: 2,174MI6 Agent
    Dan Same wrote:
    ...Moore, my third favourite Bond, should have stepped down after AVTAK.

    Umm, he did. :p
    Hilly...you old devil!
  • JennyFlexFanJennyFlexFan Posts: 1,497MI6 Agent
    The Eras (according to JFF)

    An Average (but quintissential Bond movie):

    DN

    The Golden Connery Era:

    FRWL-GF

    The Not-so-golden Connery Era:

    TB-YOLT, DAF

    A Breath of fresh air:

    OHMSS

    Moore, Moore, Moore!:

    LALD-AVTAK

    The Apocalypse:

    TLD-LTK X-(

    The Best Bond Movie EVER:

    GE

    A subpar Bond movie that's a not-as-good ripoff of YOLT and TSWLM:

    TND

    A good movie, even if it is sort of a GF ripoff:

    TWINE

    The Apocalypse Revisited:

    DAD-CR
  • Dan SameDan Same Victoria, AustraliaPosts: 6,054MI6 Agent
    edited November 2007
    Dan Same wrote:
    ...Moore, my third favourite Bond, should have stepped down after AVTAK.
    Umm, he did. :p
    ;% :)) I have now edited my post accordingly. ;)
    "He’s a man way out there in the blue, riding on a smile and a shoeshine. And when they start not smiling back—that’s an earthquake. and then you get yourself a couple of spots on your hat, and you’re finished. Nobody dast blame this man. A salesman is got to dream, boy. It comes with the territory." Death of a Salesman
  • CasinoChris75CasinoChris75 Posts: 80MI6 Agent
    The Classical Period: Dr. No-You Only Live Twice

    The Eve of the Early Baroque period: OHMSS

    Early Baroque: Diamonds Are Forever-The Spy Who Loved Me

    Late Baroque: Moonraker-Octopussy

    The Eve of the Dark Ages: A View To A Kill

    The Dark Ages: The Living Daylights-Licence To Kill

    Reconstruction: GoldenEye-Die Another Day

    The New Age: Casino Royale-Bond #25
  • Krassno GranitskiKrassno Granitski USAPosts: 896MI6 Agent
    edited November 2007
    Masterpiece - On Her Majesty's Secret Service

    Classics - Dr. No, From Russia With Love, Thunderball, Casino Royale,

    Almost Classics - The Living Daylights, Goldfinger, For Your Eyes Only, Licence To Kill,

    Also rans - Goldeneye, You Only Live Twice, Diamonds Are Forever, Live and Let Die,
    The Man With The Golden Gun,
    The Spy Who Loved Me, Never Say Never Again, The World Is Not Enough,

    AYFKM - Die Another Day, Moonraker, Octopussy, Tomorrow Never Dies, A View To A Kill,
  • LazenbyRulesLazenbyRules Posts: 3MI6 Agent
    My favorite era of Bond, and I'm 26 yrs old so I've had to go back to watch them but it would have to be '62- '71 The Original era; My favorite is OHMSS by far and George Lazenby would have actually stayed in the role of James Bond had he not gotten some other offers to go be in Bruce Lee flicks.My second favorite era would be the. My second era would be the Pierce Brosnan era(minus DAD except for the invisible car). Then the Moore era(it could have done without TMWTGG and MR but oh well). Then it would be the Dalton era(he was considered to take the role vacated by Conery the first time but turned down the role cuz he said he was too young). But if he had taken the role(the first time) it could have been the downfall of the franchise, neither of his movies TLD and LTK were very good.
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