I'm really liking the title - it was always my favourite of the remaining Fleming options.
I think they're (and we're) lucky - the title is not only dark and brooding, as many have mentioned, but I really like the theme of Bond seeking 'closure' for his relationship with Vesper, or 'some comfort' from his revenge. I think it holds a poignant depth to the film that I feared would disappear after CR, so its really nice to see it within even the title.
They're definitely staying edgy with the whole reboot scenario. They had to know that this title would be just as tough to love and hard to sell as Daniel Craig, so I like that they have the balls to keep going with it.
They're definitely staying edgy with the whole reboot scenario. They had to know that this title would be just as tough to love and hard to sell as Daniel Craig, so I like that they have the balls to keep going with it.
Or maybe they're so surprised with how well Casino Royale went down that they want to see how far they can push it! Can they actually do no wrong? Let's find out!
I'm with Sir Hillary Bray on this one. I think they have a great title with QOS and can't wait until November. Whatever they called the movie I would love it, but now they have wetted our apetites where is that poster artwork and who is going to sing the title song!
Aaaggghhh - can we stand to wait another 2 months for any more information?
Strangely, I've had The Bass singing The Liquidator in my head all day. Just think of the way she belts out the end few notes - "Quantum. OF. SOL. AAAAAAAAAAACCCCCCEEEEE." It could work.
Wouldn't you have loved to see the expression on David Arnold's face when they told him the title, though?
I like this title. Sure it is not as Bondian as most, but I praise that fact that it is different. TND and DAD had contrived titles. I'll take any title that does not have the words "Die" or "Kill" in it. I am glad it is a Fleming title again. I like how they are still finding a way to fit the 007 into the title logo.
Yes, it will be interesting to see how it is fit into the dialogue, if it is. The song will surely not be named after the title. However, the title's meaning does sound like it can provide good inspiration for a song. I hope a woman sings it this time. Aside from Tom Jones, I'm not too keen on male singers for Bond songs, unless they are in bands.
I've knocked QoS before, but what the hell -- I trusted the filmmakers for CR and they didn't disappoint, I'll trust them this time, too; that's means I'll assume the title will reflect the story, at least to a good degree. At least it suggests that the film will look into Bond's head a little more, which is an idea that I like.
I couldn't be happier that they chose "Quantum of Solace." I have been pulling for it all the way. I think it rolls off the tongue beautifully. This is one of the best titles in the past two decades.
That said, I agree with Sir Hilly that I would be just as excited to flock to "Bond-O-Rama" this November...
Wouldn't you have loved to see the expression on David Arnold's face when they told him the title, though?
Probably s******ing as he dialed his lyricist to tell him the bad news
EDIT: Wow- you can't say s****** on this board. As in the word for laughing- a bit like 'snicker'. Rhymes with digger.
I bet you can't say S****horpe (English town in North Lincolnshire) either
Sir MilesThe Wrong Side Of The WardrobePosts: 27,749Chief of Staff
I couldn't be happier that they chose "Quantum of Solace." I have been pulling for it all the way.
Ditto here.
Quantum Of Solace has been a title I've wanted Eon to use for years and I'm so glad they have used it for this film - it's got to be the best 'fit' for this film.
EDIT: Wow- you can't say s****** on this board. As in the word for laughing- a bit like 'snicker'. Rhymes with digger.
Yes, it's a quirk of the swear filter sadly. Though it does mean that people have to actually post, instead of just swearing a lot like on certain other low-rent websites
Wouldn't you have loved to see the expression on David Arnold's face when they told him the title, though?
) Much the same as the one on John Barry's when Cubby told him "Octopussy"! For that one, Barry told his lyricist Tim Rice to come up with about six different titles and the execs would plump for their favourite- "All Time High" in that case. Probably Arnold will take the same route.
(Or maybe he'll go down the road JB chose with OHMSS: faced with an amelodic title, he used a line from the novel- "We Have All The Time In The World"- to come up with a classic song. Perhaps "Won't You Give Me Anything At All"?)
I think the title is perfect and in keeping with the revenge theme which is supposed to be a carry over from the last movie...and it has a Fleming origin. Simply brilliant!!!!!!
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SB_DiamondNorth Miami Beach, FLPosts: 126MI6 Agent
I think that the title is great and it has a profoundness about it, like Bond is going to go through some heavy stuff in the film, but I think that for non-Bond fans it might be random and 'out-of-no-where' since I tihnk everyone was used to the titles that had 'Die' and 'Gold' in them as someone had mentioned. But it's an A+ for me! {[] -{ :007)
good title. i love it. very dark and brooding. perfect to continue from CR. i think they will have a slow sad song for it. at first i thot 'property of a lady' would be a nice title. something like bond unearthing more things and info on vesper's past. can't wait for nov.
LoeffelholzThe United States, With LovePosts: 8,998Quartermasters
watch for it worked into the script, via dialogue...and listen for the howls of derision and protest from the Loyal Opposition )
A few days ago people were talking about how they don't want some Fleming title slapped on the movie and 'shoehorned' into the script. Now that Eon is doing that very thing, if someone happens to not like it, you automatically lump them into some group? Thanks for sharing the love, man. 8-)
You're welcome, dude 8-) Although, in the interest of accuracy, I think I'm on the record as preferring a Fleming title above any other option...Jeez 8-)
Sorry if you're bothered. I'm just having a spot of fun; all due apologies if you're not. Of course it was wrong of me to make such a prejudgment; I was just using the past to predict the future, and no doubt I'm completely mistaken about the existence of The Loyal Opposition---it's merely a figment of my own fevered imagination---and I'm quite sure that no such outcry will, in fact, occur...what was I thinking??
Please forgive me.
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"I am not an entrant in the Shakespeare Stakes." - Ian Fleming
"Screw 'em." - Daniel Craig, The Best James Bond EverTM
LoeffelholzThe United States, With LovePosts: 8,998Quartermasters
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-- My first thought was the same one Loeff raised: if they try and weave the title into the dialogue, it will be worse than in AVTAK! )
To be fair, Fleming put it in the dialogue (unlike FAVTAK) so I don't think it would be awful if someone did say the title.
I really think they will, and that it will be pounced upon---like an eagle swooping down upon a field mouse---when it happens
I'm not at all worried about it...but then, I actually liked the line: "So you lived to die another day" {[]
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"I am not an entrant in the Shakespeare Stakes." - Ian Fleming
"Screw 'em." - Daniel Craig, The Best James Bond EverTM
Quantum of wha? The Killers perform title track?? Boooooo!! Emo-Gay, Boooooooooooo!!!
superadoRegent's Park West (CaliforniaPosts: 2,656MI6 Agent
Like some others, I do wonder how the title will float with the general public; at least it's not Gigli though quirky titles caught on often enough. Maybe "quantum" and "solace" are fancy sounding enough to cull people into embracing the title as a way of making a statement of "yeah, I get it, don't you?" But then again, it may come off just as benign as "Devil May Care" (which I like too, because similarly...) As a fan of the books, QoS appeals to me very much and I do think it sounds cool, especially when I imagine Fleming's thought process. Would that actually be some conceit or snobbery as a Bond afficionado? For certain though I'm being a hypocrite at some level, since QoS is my least favorite Fleming story.
As for the story line, I think there is a natural connection with the continuation of CR, since QoS the story had to do with escalating bitter feelings within a relationship and "getting over it," (I suppose similar to "The Breakup" in today's context) and so it seems the same as the redemption factor that would ultimately be Bond's mission in the movie, to find closure over Vesper's betrayal. Kind of predictable, yes, but a fitting title for the expected theme and plot.
"...the purposeful slant of his striding figure looked dangerous, as if he was making quickly for something bad that was happening further down the street." -SMERSH on 007 dossier photo, Ch. 6 FRWL.....
I would say that on the other forums I visit the general consensus is a bit "meh" and I must admit to feeling fairly neutral about it myself.
It only shakily passes the Bassey test (in that you can imaging La Bassey warbling the title away over a grandiose backing), but I imagine a similar Octopussy/All Time High, TSWLM/Nobody Does it Better, Casino Royale/You Know My Name type title track. I would predict no instrumental version either ...
I like it, its different, classy and Fleming. Also as already has been pointed out it does not contain the word Die.
I think Bond movies are largely title proof. No one is not going to see it just because they don't understand the title. Lets face it if you can get away with Octopussy you can get away with anything. They could call it Bond 22 or James Bond Kicks The S*@t Out Of Dominic Greene (I would love to hear the title song for that one)and they would still be queing around the block.
Mind you I think some people will struggle with it, my teenage son can't get his head around it. I can just hear the conversations in November 'I'm of to see er Quarter of Solids er Quantas of Airlines er oh sod it the new James Bond Movie'.
I like it, its different, classy and Fleming. Also as already has been pointed out it does not contain the word Die.
I think Bond movies are largely title proof. No one is not going to see it just because they don't understand the title. Lets face it if you can get away with Octopussy you can get away with anything. They could call it Bond 22 or James Bond Kicks The S*@t Out Of Dominic Greene (I would love to hear the title song for that one)and they would still be queing around the block.
Mind you I think some people will struggle with it, my teenage son can't get his head around it. I can just hear the conversations in November 'I'm of to see er Quarter of Solids er Quantas of Airlines er oh sod it the new James Bond Movie'.
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http://img229.imageshack.us/img229/2743/007poster3cv9.jpg
edit: darn, i didn't realize there was an official logo yet! http://joblo.com/newsimages1/quantumlogo.jpg
i was pretty close!
I think they're (and we're) lucky - the title is not only dark and brooding, as many have mentioned, but I really like the theme of Bond seeking 'closure' for his relationship with Vesper, or 'some comfort' from his revenge. I think it holds a poignant depth to the film that I feared would disappear after CR, so its really nice to see it within even the title.
Roll on QoS {[]
To be fair, Fleming put it in the dialogue (unlike FAVTAK) so I don't think it would be awful if someone did say the title.
Or maybe they're so surprised with how well Casino Royale went down that they want to see how far they can push it! Can they actually do no wrong? Let's find out!
Aaaggghhh - can we stand to wait another 2 months for any more information?
The Quaaaaaaantum of Solaaaaaaace.
This sounds like a job for Duran Duran!
Wouldn't you have loved to see the expression on David Arnold's face when they told him the title, though?
@merseytart
Yes, it will be interesting to see how it is fit into the dialogue, if it is. The song will surely not be named after the title. However, the title's meaning does sound like it can provide good inspiration for a song. I hope a woman sings it this time. Aside from Tom Jones, I'm not too keen on male singers for Bond songs, unless they are in bands.
I hope they do it in more ways than just M giving Bond a scolding lecture on his politically incorrect views on living.
That said, I agree with Sir Hilly that I would be just as excited to flock to "Bond-O-Rama" this November...
Probably s******ing as he dialed his lyricist to tell him the bad news
EDIT: Wow- you can't say s****** on this board. As in the word for laughing- a bit like 'snicker'. Rhymes with digger.
I bet you can't say S****horpe (English town in North Lincolnshire) either
Ditto here.
Quantum Of Solace has been a title I've wanted Eon to use for years and I'm so glad they have used it for this film - it's got to be the best 'fit' for this film.
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Yes, it's a quirk of the swear filter sadly. Though it does mean that people have to actually post, instead of just swearing a lot like on certain other low-rent websites
@merseytart
(Or maybe he'll go down the road JB chose with OHMSS: faced with an amelodic title, he used a line from the novel- "We Have All The Time In The World"- to come up with a classic song. Perhaps "Won't You Give Me Anything At All"?)
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Sorry if you're bothered. I'm just having a spot of fun; all due apologies if you're not. Of course it was wrong of me to make such a prejudgment; I was just using the past to predict the future, and no doubt I'm completely mistaken about the existence of The Loyal Opposition---it's merely a figment of my own fevered imagination---and I'm quite sure that no such outcry will, in fact, occur...what was I thinking??
Please forgive me.
"I am not an entrant in the Shakespeare Stakes." - Ian Fleming
"Screw 'em." - Daniel Craig, The Best James Bond EverTM
I really think they will, and that it will be pounced upon---like an eagle swooping down upon a field mouse---when it happens
I'm not at all worried about it...but then, I actually liked the line: "So you lived to die another day" {[]
"I am not an entrant in the Shakespeare Stakes." - Ian Fleming
"Screw 'em." - Daniel Craig, The Best James Bond EverTM
As for the story line, I think there is a natural connection with the continuation of CR, since QoS the story had to do with escalating bitter feelings within a relationship and "getting over it," (I suppose similar to "The Breakup" in today's context) and so it seems the same as the redemption factor that would ultimately be Bond's mission in the movie, to find closure over Vesper's betrayal. Kind of predictable, yes, but a fitting title for the expected theme and plot.
It only shakily passes the Bassey test (in that you can imaging La Bassey warbling the title away over a grandiose backing), but I imagine a similar Octopussy/All Time High, TSWLM/Nobody Does it Better, Casino Royale/You Know My Name type title track. I would predict no instrumental version either ...
I think Bond movies are largely title proof. No one is not going to see it just because they don't understand the title. Lets face it if you can get away with Octopussy you can get away with anything. They could call it Bond 22 or James Bond Kicks The S*@t Out Of Dominic Greene (I would love to hear the title song for that one)and they would still be queing around the block.
Mind you I think some people will struggle with it, my teenage son can't get his head around it. I can just hear the conversations in November 'I'm of to see er Quarter of Solids er Quantas of Airlines er oh sod it the new James Bond Movie'.
I think Bond movies are largely title proof. No one is not going to see it just because they don't understand the title. Lets face it if you can get away with Octopussy you can get away with anything. They could call it Bond 22 or James Bond Kicks The S*@t Out Of Dominic Greene (I would love to hear the title song for that one)and they would still be queing around the block.
Mind you I think some people will struggle with it, my teenage son can't get his head around it. I can just hear the conversations in November 'I'm of to see er Quarter of Solids er Quantas of Airlines er oh sod it the new James Bond Movie'.