2008 Wilmbledon Final

Dan SameDan Same Victoria, AustraliaPosts: 6,054MI6 Agent
edited July 2008 in Off Topic Chat
It has all come down to this. World number 1. and five-time reigning Champion Roger Federer and world number 2., two-time reigning Runner-up and Queens Champion Rafael Nadal are facing off against each other in today's (or tonight's here in Australia) final of the 2008 Wimbledon Championships. :D

I love Federer, but I think I would prefer Nadal to win, and I think that he is capable of doing so. It should be a wonderful final, especially as there really is no favourite or underdog. I'm a massive tennis fan, and I can't wait to watch this year's final. :D

Last year's final went to five sets, and although I'm going to hoping that Nadal wins, I would be happy if this year's final simply went all the way. It's going to be fantastic. :D

So what about you? Will anyone else be watching? If so, who do you want to win? Or would you prefer to simply see a great match?
"He’s a man way out there in the blue, riding on a smile and a shoeshine. And when they start not smiling back—that’s an earthquake. and then you get yourself a couple of spots on your hat, and you’re finished. Nobody dast blame this man. A salesman is got to dream, boy. It comes with the territory." Death of a Salesman

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  • John DrakeJohn Drake On assignmentPosts: 2,564MI6 Agent
    I've got a feeling Nadal will win this time. I think it will be a lot closer than the French Open when Federer just fell apart, but I still think this will be Nadal's year.
  • Dan SameDan Same Victoria, AustraliaPosts: 6,054MI6 Agent
    John Drake wrote:
    I've got a feeling Nadal will win this time. I think it will be a lot closer than the French Open when Federer just fell apart, but I still think this will be Nadal's year.
    I agree. Federer has of course won the past 5 titles, but Nadal is in career-best form. I think that Nadal can win in 4 sets.
    "He’s a man way out there in the blue, riding on a smile and a shoeshine. And when they start not smiling back—that’s an earthquake. and then you get yourself a couple of spots on your hat, and you’re finished. Nobody dast blame this man. A salesman is got to dream, boy. It comes with the territory." Death of a Salesman
  • stjimmy456stjimmy456 Manchester, EnglandPosts: 75MI6 Agent
    Dan Same wrote:
    John Drake wrote:
    I've got a feeling Nadal will win this time. I think it will be a lot closer than the French Open when Federer just fell apart, but I still think this will be Nadal's year.
    I agree. Federer has of course won the past 5 titles, but Nadal is in career-best form. I think that Nadal can win in 4 sets.

    Well good predictions so far, he's winning at the moment {[]
  • LexiLexi LondonPosts: 3,000MI6 Agent
    I agree, I want Nadal to win too. It's certainly a good match so far, just what you want in a final! I'm flicking from this to OHMSS which is on ITV! :D
    She's worth whatever chaos she brings to the table and you know it. ~ Mark Anthony
  • Dan SameDan Same Victoria, AustraliaPosts: 6,054MI6 Agent
    edited July 2008
    It appears as if the only thing which will stop Nadal is rain. It's disappointing for me as it's 10 to 3 in the morning, I'm rather tired but I'm staying up to watch the end of the tennis. I hope the match resumes sooner rather than later. :#
    "He’s a man way out there in the blue, riding on a smile and a shoeshine. And when they start not smiling back—that’s an earthquake. and then you get yourself a couple of spots on your hat, and you’re finished. Nobody dast blame this man. A salesman is got to dream, boy. It comes with the territory." Death of a Salesman
  • LexiLexi LondonPosts: 3,000MI6 Agent
    Dan Same wrote:
    It appears as if the only thing which will stop Nadal is rain. It's disappointing for me as it's 10 to 3 in the morning, I'm rather tired but I'm staying up to watch the end of the tennis. I hope the match resumes sooner rather than later. :#

    I was wondering what time it was in Oz, that is dedication for you ;)
    She's worth whatever chaos she brings to the table and you know it. ~ Mark Anthony
  • Lazenby880Lazenby880 LondonPosts: 525MI6 Agent
    The quality of the tennis might not be *quite* as high as it was in last year's final, but this is undoubtedly the most dramatic, tense and exciting match I have ever watched live!

    (Oh, and come on Nadal!).
  • Mr MartiniMr Martini That nice house in the sky.Posts: 2,703MI6 Agent
    Just turned this on. Don't know much about tennis, looks like it has been a heck of a match. Just going by the score. BTW, I missed which one of the Williams sisters won?
    Some people would complain even if you hang them with a new rope
  • LexiLexi LondonPosts: 3,000MI6 Agent
    Mr Martini wrote:
    BTW, I missed which one of the Williams sisters won?

    Venus ;)
    She's worth whatever chaos she brings to the table and you know it. ~ Mark Anthony
  • Mr MartiniMr Martini That nice house in the sky.Posts: 2,703MI6 Agent
    Thanks Lexi!
    Some people would complain even if you hang them with a new rope
  • Dan SameDan Same Victoria, AustraliaPosts: 6,054MI6 Agent
    edited July 2008
    Lexi wrote:
    I was wondering what time it was in Oz, that is dedication for you ;)
    It's 6:30 in the morning, and I am just going to bed now, after one of the greatest ever finals. :D :))
    "He’s a man way out there in the blue, riding on a smile and a shoeshine. And when they start not smiling back—that’s an earthquake. and then you get yourself a couple of spots on your hat, and you’re finished. Nobody dast blame this man. A salesman is got to dream, boy. It comes with the territory." Death of a Salesman
  • Lazenby880Lazenby880 LondonPosts: 525MI6 Agent
    edited July 2008
    My God! 6-4, 6-4, 6-7 (3-7), 6-7 (8-10), 9-7. Undoubtedly that was the best match I have seen. I'm hugely glad Nadal won it, and it clearly meant so much to him. Federer acted like a gent throughout the presentations in a very difficult situation, and both men raised their games for the final set - Federer managing to serve himself out of trouble until that final one.

    Incredible stuff in a true epic - looks like Nadal may be the new top dog in not too long.
  • Dan SameDan Same Victoria, AustraliaPosts: 6,054MI6 Agent
    edited July 2008
    Lazenby880 wrote:
    The quality of the tennis might not be *quite* as high as it was in last year's final, but this is undoubtedly the most dramatic, tense and exciting match I have ever watched live!
    The quality of the tennis was probably higher last year, but I preferred this year's final. It was more desperate, more extraordinary, more dramatic and even though Federer played better last year (Nadal IMO played better this year), he and Nadal still came up with the most amazing shots at the most amazing times. Last year's final went to 5 sets, but in the fifth set, it became anti-climatic. This year's final had me on the edge of my seat up until the final point.

    Certainly Federer wasn't as elegant as he was last year, but he saved three match points and got himself out of trouble more times than Harry Houdini. I was barracking for Nadal, and to watch Federer fight was both a source of frustration as well as amazement. Plus, Nadal never allowed self-doubt to creep in, even when Federer had fought back from 2 sets down. Both players were awesome IMO, with Nadal emerging the deserved winner. :D I would argue that this was the best Wimbledon final in many years.
    Lazenby880 wrote:
    (Oh, and come on Nadal!).
    It's funny. At the start of the match, I was barracking for Nadal, but I wouldn't have minded who won. However, once the match started, I was firmly in Nadal's camp, to such an extent that I would have been extremely disappointed if he lost. When he did win ( :D), the way he reacted to his victory gave me goosebumbs. I really felt tremendous joy! :D :D

    Congratulations Rafael Nadal; 2008 Wimbledon Champion! {[]
    "He’s a man way out there in the blue, riding on a smile and a shoeshine. And when they start not smiling back—that’s an earthquake. and then you get yourself a couple of spots on your hat, and you’re finished. Nobody dast blame this man. A salesman is got to dream, boy. It comes with the territory." Death of a Salesman
  • Lazenby880Lazenby880 LondonPosts: 525MI6 Agent
    Dan Same wrote:
    The quality of the tennis was probably higher last year, but I preferred this year's final. It was more desperate, more extraordinary, more dramatic and even though Federer played better last year (Nadal IMO played better this year)
    I agree 100 per cent. I was all over the place - shouting, jumping up and down, generally acting like an idiot. We were a divided household though - I had been rooting for Nadal from the beginning of the tournament (I think he has improved so much on grass, evident in Queens Club especially, that he deserved to win) whereas the rest of the family are Federer die-hards. All I can say is that it is brillian for tennis to have these two titans fighting it out being so easily matched, although Nadal with the edge of course!

    I agree that in raw tennis terms the quality was *very marginally* lower, in the sense that I think there were comparatively more unforced errors and it took Federer a while to get fully involved, however some of the shots were unbelievable, such as Nadal's extremely angled two-handed forehand which gve him break point at 7-7 in the final set.

    Most people would argue that it was the best final at least since 1980, but, taking nothing away from Borg or McEnroe, *I* think it was better than that one!
    Certainly Federer wasn't as elegant as he was last year, but he saved three match points and got himself out of trouble more times than Harry Houdini. I was barracking for Nadal, and to watch Federer fight was both a source of frustration as well as amazement. Plus, Nadal never allowed self-doubt to creep in, even when Federer had fought back from 2 sets down. Both players were awesome IMO, with Nadal emerging the deserved winner. :D I would argue that this was the best Wimbledon final in many years.
    Indeed, both had the hunger to succeed to the point where I wondered when someone would break in that final set!
    Lazenby880 wrote:
    When he did win ( :D), the way he reacted to his victory gave me goosebumbs. I really felt tremendous joy! :D :D
    Absolutely. Another year to wait as no other Grand Slam is quite like Wimbledon!
  • John DrakeJohn Drake On assignmentPosts: 2,564MI6 Agent
    I'm pleased for Nadal, and it was great to see him celebrate by pulling a Pat Cash and going walkabout all over the Centre Court. Federer behaved like a true gentleman and was extremely gracious towards his opponent afterwards, although he was obviously gutted. Great final. Two great players. Am I right in thinking that tennis is included in the Olympics?
  • Dan SameDan Same Victoria, AustraliaPosts: 6,054MI6 Agent
    John Drake wrote:
    I'm pleased for Nadal, and it was great to see him celebrate by pulling a Pat Cash and going walkabout all over the Centre Court. Federer behaved like a true gentleman and was extremely gracious towards his opponent afterwards, although he was obviously gutted. Great final. Two great players.
    I completely agree. {[]
    John Drake wrote:
    Am I right in thinking that tennis is included in the Olympics?
    You are. It has been an official Olympic sport since 1988.
    "He’s a man way out there in the blue, riding on a smile and a shoeshine. And when they start not smiling back—that’s an earthquake. and then you get yourself a couple of spots on your hat, and you’re finished. Nobody dast blame this man. A salesman is got to dream, boy. It comes with the territory." Death of a Salesman
  • Sir Hillary BraySir Hillary Bray College of ArmsPosts: 2,174MI6 Agent
    I'm old enough to remember the 1980 Borg-McEnroe final like it was yesterday, which is both a good and a bad thing. :#

    I would rate yesterday's match slightly better than that 1980 classic, as the best match of all time -- the reason being that the "challenger" won, whereas in 1980 Borg prevailed, only to finally be dethroned by Johnny Mac the following year.

    What an amazing display by both men. Nadal's movement in the fifth set was nothing short of remarkable. In the end, Federer was undone by unforced errors -- 52 to Nadal's 27 in all, and a whole bunch in the last few games as he finally seemed to tire. For Nadal to track down as many balls as he did, and hit winners off them, yet still make less than 1 unforced error for every 2 games played is extraordinary.

    I have always thought Federer to be a class act, but it's easy to be classy when you're mopping the court with everyone else. His post-match demeanor yesterday elevated him even further in my eyes, far more than in any of his wins. This had to be devastating -- he could blame the Australian on mono, he could blame the French on clay, but this one he can only blame on Rafa's superiority. I hope he uses this disappointment to motivate himself to reclaiming his position of the best in the world. Tennis needs this rivalry.

    Sadly, tennis in this country has become a has-been sport -- a victim of poor management and marketing by the sport's overseers, an increasingly crowded sports environment, Americans' impatience with sports we don't dominate, and Tiger Woods. That's too bad, because not only is it fun to play and a great source of exercise, but when played at the highest level it can be absolutely riveting to watch, as was the case yesterday.

    Tennis fans will never forget this one.
    Hilly...you old devil!
  • Moonraker 5Moonraker 5 Ayrshire, ScotlandPosts: 1,821MI6 Agent
    A fantastic final and it had me on the edge of my seat. I set out wanting Federer to win, but the more I was amazed by Nadal's reach of the entire court and his refusal to be broken, the more I shifted into his favour. By the end, I was positively shouting for Nadal to win.

    Federer was very gracious in his defeat, Nadal was humble to his opponent in his victory. Great match, made the entire tournament!

    (And no, I wasn't behind Andy Murray, despite being Scottish, I don't see Wimbledon as a nation v. nation event rather an individual v. individual event, and as an individual, I really can't warm to him or his playing style).

    As for the Olympics, Federer was the Swiss flag bearer in Athens, probably will be in August. 17 of the top 20 men and 18 of the top 20 women will compete in Beijing.
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  • MoniqueMonique USAPosts: 696MI6 Agent
    Sadly, tennis in this country has become a has-been sport -- a victim of poor management and marketing by the sport's overseers, an increasingly crowded sports environment, Americans' impatience with sports we don't dominate, and Tiger Woods. That's too bad, because not only is it fun to play and a great source of exercise, but when played at the highest level it can be absolutely riveting to watch, as was the case yesterday.

    Tennis fans will never forget this one.

    Well said Sir H. I was raised on tennis and have always had immense respect for the game. It's such a gentleman's sport, I love the history, the pomp and the the ceremony of it. It saddens me too that it's not as popular as it once was. The matches have been bounced around the networks so much these last few years, it's just become all about the revenue, and sadly it can't compare to the likes of football. That is such a shame. This year was riveting I totally agree, it was really great for the game, and for those of us that love it!
  • Dan SameDan Same Victoria, AustraliaPosts: 6,054MI6 Agent
    Sadly, tennis in this country has become a has-been sport -- a victim of poor management and marketing by the sport's overseers, an increasingly crowded sports environment, Americans' impatience with sports we don't dominate, and Tiger Woods.
    Interesting that you mention Woods. As you well know, I was stunned by Wood's US Open victory earlier this year. Although I am still stunned by it, I actually think that Nadal's Wimbledon victory is more impressive. Granted, I am biased; although I like golf, I absolutely adore tennis, which (unlike golf) interests me even during the non-Grand Slam portions of the season. Tennis is one of my favourite sports to play, and probably my favourite to watch, as well as one of my absolute favourite sports to feed my statistical urges. :D Golf, for me, just doesn't come close. ;)

    Nonetheless I actually do consider Nadal's Wimbledon victory to be more stunning as, with Woods, it was just more of the same. It was extraordinary and it inspired me to tell my mother about it which is pretty rare, :)) but that is why Woods is one of the two greatest (if not the greatest) professional golfers of all time.

    With Nadal, it was different. He had never won Wimbledon before, and although he had made the final in 2006 and 2007, who's to say that he wouldn't meet the same fate in 2008 that Federer met at the French Open? Although I personally predicted Nadal would win Wimbledon, based on the way he destroyed Federer at the French and his winning Queen's, I wasn't entirely sure as Nadal still had to beat one of the greatest grass courters of all time, and quite possibly the best player of the past 35 years (IMO Federer is the second greatest player of all time, after Rod Laver.)

    The fact that Nadal did so and did it in such an impressive manner (I don't think his winning in straight sets would have been nearly as impressive) made what was, for me, the *sporting highlight of 2008.

    *Thus far.
    "He’s a man way out there in the blue, riding on a smile and a shoeshine. And when they start not smiling back—that’s an earthquake. and then you get yourself a couple of spots on your hat, and you’re finished. Nobody dast blame this man. A salesman is got to dream, boy. It comes with the territory." Death of a Salesman
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