The other side of the coin is that we want the real deal. So if Sunspel was used as Bond's shirt that's what we want. If OP was used as Bond's glasses, that's what we want. To say that those items are now miraculously Tom Ford because of a licensing agreement is a fake, a cheat. We know better. Again, everybody on this forum is free to make up their own mind.
DG
It sounds like the items ARE actually Tom Ford, though, so if you want the screen used ones, those are the ones you'll have to buy.
Really, show me where in TF's catalog the shirt and sunglasses existed before now. See what I mean, you can't. On the other hand the Sunspel and OP's did exist. Presto changeo, Tom Ford. But buy away if you must.
DG
So, what sharp little eyes you've got...wait till you get to my teeth.
"People sleep peacefully in their beds at night only because rough men stand ready to do violence on their behalf." Richard Grenier after George Orwell, Washington Times 1993.
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Very fair point, DG, but ASP thinks that the TF shades are noticeably different than the OPs, and are the ones seen in the pictures. I tend to trust ASP when it comes to identifying that kind of stuff. As for the polo, well, I couldn't tell you. But if TF is manufacturing similar shirts anyway, why wouldn't he have used them in the shoot? Why would he just do it now? It isn't like he needed to capitalize on the popularity of the original article when he could just as easily put his own in in the first place.
Am I making any sense?
We'll just have to wait for Blu-Ray, I think.
Although, I'm not sure a single one of us will buy the $500 TF polo when the Sunspel is much cheaper (and I already have 2, anyway).
Very fair point, DG, but ASP thinks that the TF shades are noticeably different than the OPs, and are the ones seen in the pictures. I tend to trust ASP when it comes to identifying that kind of stuff. As for the polo, well, I couldn't tell you. But if TF is manufacturing similar shirts anyway, why wouldn't he have used them in the shoot? Why would he just do it now? It isn't like he needed to capitalize on the popularity of the original article when he could just as easily put his own in in the first place.
Am I making any sense?
We'll just have to wait for Blu-Ray, I think.
Although, I'm not sure a single one of us will buy the $500 TF polo when the Sunspel is much cheaper (and I already have 2, anyway).
Perhaps the shades are slightly different, but that does not preclude the fact that they were copied and that the originals bought for Bond were OP. I also suspect it takes a certain amount of time to knock off sunglasses. So there may be some scenes where the sunglasses are OP. This may be a stretch, but could you cgi frames to look different? In any event, in the end, it's each to his own.
DG
So, what sharp little eyes you've got...wait till you get to my teeth.
"People sleep peacefully in their beds at night only because rough men stand ready to do violence on their behalf." Richard Grenier after George Orwell, Washington Times 1993.
I read the Tom Ford interview ( http://commanderbond.net/components/quicknews/index.php?action=item&item=49542) and my problem with this "Tom Ford dresses Bond, totally" aproach is that Bond was never "Haute Cotoure" or lable concious. EON has some how decided to remake JB from a secret agent into a marketting exec. from NY with this "Ford is Bond's choice" thing.
Fleming's Bond was never fussy about fashion; remember how Blofeld's troops made him because of his OLD FASHIONED ski gear in the OHMSS. In fact being too well dressed was usually the mark of the enemy, and allways the mark of a cad, in the olden golden days.
"I mean, she almost kills bond...with her ass."
-Mr Arlington Beech
I can honestly say I wish it wasn't the case, but the blue polos you see in the film are Tom Ford Polos and not Sunspel...this is a fact and not an assumption.
PS, the Tom Ford polos are slightly different...not as form fitting, different material, not as soft and "airy" etc and the pocket is slightly different.
So, what sharp little eyes you've got...wait till you get to my teeth.
"People sleep peacefully in their beds at night only because rough men stand ready to do violence on their behalf." Richard Grenier after George Orwell, Washington Times 1993.
I read the Tom Ford interview ( http://commanderbond.net/components/quicknews/index.php?action=item&item=49542) and my problem with this "Tom Ford dresses Bond, totally" aproach is that Bond was never "Haute Cotoure" or lable concious. EON has some how decided to remake JB from a secret agent into a marketting exec. from NY with this "Ford is Bond's choice" thing.
Fleming's Bond was never fussy about fashion; remember how Blofeld's troops made him because of his OLD FASHIONED ski gear in the OHMSS. In fact being too well dressed was usually the mark of the enemy, and allways the mark of a cad, in the olden golden days.
Quite. Moreover, Bond lives a dangerous life and has resolved to die with very little in the bank. He tries to enjoy life to the fullest.
Bond would buy what he considers the best watch, the best car, the best shirts. The best things in life don't come from one place. When we think of the best watches we think Swiss; Rolex, Omega etc. When we think the best shirts we think custom made, perhaps Turnbull & Asser. When we think the best sunglasses we think Persol, Ray Ban and dare I say it Oliver Peoples. I find the Tom Ford thing somewhat absurd.
I don't think I'll be buying much of the Tom Ford stuff. Certainly not the sunglasses. Although I get that some people may need the branding. I have to get my order in for the OP's. Looks like a very James Bond Christmas.
DG
So, what sharp little eyes you've got...wait till you get to my teeth.
"People sleep peacefully in their beds at night only because rough men stand ready to do violence on their behalf." Richard Grenier after George Orwell, Washington Times 1993.
I'm in possession of a pair of the Tom Ford sunglasses and am about to take photos of them which I'll post later today. In the meantime, can someone please tell me which images of Daniel Craig are being cited for comparison purposes.
Hi gang, I have been too busy for too long. Anyway, I wanted to sound off a little bit about this. This topic is something that I was concerned about and posted some time ago. I thought that it seemed like everything from this movie was looking like it was going to go so far past people's budgets. I can't remember what post it was in but so far things have turned out the way I had feared. The whole Airman deal was a disasterbocle. It is like Tom Ford and EON just went lest just screw all of our fan base by switching from ultra-premium brands to super ultra-premium brands(SUP). It is unfortunately a joke that just isn't funny. It's like they think James Bond is not only a clothes hound, but also retarded.
James Bond (the book Bond) would eschew the whole SUP. If someone slapped a $1800 price tag on a $60 sweater/jumper Bond would say this kind of extravagance is for communist agents trying to look like Western millionaires. The fact that someone is just using the designs of someone else, or at least very similarly designed as someone else and charging those kinds of prices should have their work duplicated at a reasonable cost.
...but slapping a label on a cotten cardigan and charging $1800 for it when it would otherwise be less than $100 seems a bit pretentious. I am all for fit and fashion but...well, maybe I am just sour because this time out the wardrobe seems a bit pretious in price.
Precisely the reason I have avoided designer label clothing like the plague. I used to work in clothing retail for years, and saw how quickly trends change, and how overpriced they can be. I buy clothes I like and (I hope!) look good on me. Its ironic that one or two pieces I have from time to time accidentally shadow Mr Craigs style, but do not copy it. - (Actor not his take on the character)
Having said that, I know one or two people who do copy the style from the films and get away with it briliantly! -{
This is Thunderbird 2, how can I be of assistance?
i think thats pretty low of TF just to copy the polos and sunglasses as if they are his own, it would make sense if Bond wore sunspel in QOS as he did CR, not the TF copy of sunspel.
It sounds like a EGO thing with TF. Everything MUST have his name on it no matter who's the original manufacture.
Problem is that article got it a bit wrong...the "bomber" they refer to in the picture is a Tom Ford one, not a Y-3 which is more than likely the black one seen with white jeans...
"Tom also provided the sunglasses – and Daniel isn’t easy to fit with shades. He’s had his nose broken so many times – they sit at the end of his nose or too high so he looks like an insect."{/quote]
Problem is that article got it a bit wrong...the "bomber" they refer to in the picture is a Tom Ford one, not a Y-3 which is more than likely the black one seen with white jeans...
Right! Exclusive interview with the costume department and they got it wrong?!?!?
Problem is that article got it a bit wrong...the "bomber" they refer to in the picture is a Tom Ford one, not a Y-3 which is more than likely the black one seen with white jeans...
Right! Exclusive interview with the costume department and they got it wrong?!?!?
Please back up your statement.
Whoever put the article together got it wrong. Newpapers have been known to do that now and again
The blue jacket IS Tom Ford - 100% confirmed, that's done and dusted.
Daniel Craig also wears a casual jacket by Y-3 in the movie, which as Mantis quite rightly states, is more than likely the black zip up jacket.
As for back up, I got that DIRECTLY from the Costume designer - Louise Frogley and Mantis has hard evidence, but I'll leave that for him
Linton, I was refering to the newspapers picture reference, which Frogley had nothing to do with...why so hostile?
Hostile? No. Straight to the point? Yes
I’ve been following these threads with amusement for quite some time and only recently decided to post some replies due to an overwhelming feeling of frustration.
I am a keen follower of Bond’s style and I’m always on the look out for items I can purchase myself.
But, in the world of the internet, it is very easy to say 100%, FACT, Hard Evidence, etc, etc, etc!!! But this is never back up?
Please supply some evidence that the jacket is in fact TF and not Y-3 without using any of the above statements?
Don’t tell me, you guys supplied the intelligence for the Bush Administration that Saddam had WMD’s as well?!?!?!?!
Linton, I was refering to the newspapers picture reference, which Frogley had nothing to do with...why so hostile?
Hostile? No. Straight to the point? Yes
I’ve been following these threads with amusement for quite some time and only recently decided to post some replies due to an overwhelming feeling of frustration.
I am a keen follower of Bond’s style and I’m always on the look out for items I can purchase myself.
But, in the world of the internet, it is very easy to say 100%, FACT, Hard Evidence, etc, etc, etc!!! But this is never back up?
Please supply some evidence that the jacket is in fact TF and not Y-3 without using any of the above statements?
Don’t tell me, you guys supplied the intelligence for the Bush Administration that Saddam had WMD’s as well?!?!?!?!
As has already been said, we have been bound, not only, by an agreement not to release info too early, otherwise we'd have very little, but also an agreement with Bond Lifestyle.
The article will be complete in the next couple of days and posted soon afterwards.
That is the ONLY reason why we haven't been able to say too much. Losing valuable contacts and getting blacklisted by Sony and EON just isn't worth it.
If we had our way then we'd get it on the web straight away. Nothing is being held back deliberatly
i was able to get a pair of the Tom Ford designed sunglasses, they call them the FT108 "james Bond 007" and they looked considerably smaller than my Op airman, and they didnt have a gradient lens. i think the tom ford inspired ones were alot more masculine and fitting for James Bond. Also my TF frames were way less than the OP so I dont know why people are complaining about pricing. Just thought i'd say that there are definitely differences and that I liked the TF ones better, as a guy.
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Really, show me where in TF's catalog the shirt and sunglasses existed before now. See what I mean, you can't. On the other hand the Sunspel and OP's did exist. Presto changeo, Tom Ford. But buy away if you must.
DG
"People sleep peacefully in their beds at night only because rough men stand ready to do violence on their behalf." Richard Grenier after George Orwell, Washington Times 1993.
Am I making any sense?
We'll just have to wait for Blu-Ray, I think.
Although, I'm not sure a single one of us will buy the $500 TF polo when the Sunspel is much cheaper (and I already have 2, anyway).
Perhaps the shades are slightly different, but that does not preclude the fact that they were copied and that the originals bought for Bond were OP. I also suspect it takes a certain amount of time to knock off sunglasses. So there may be some scenes where the sunglasses are OP. This may be a stretch, but could you cgi frames to look different? In any event, in the end, it's each to his own.
DG
"People sleep peacefully in their beds at night only because rough men stand ready to do violence on their behalf." Richard Grenier after George Orwell, Washington Times 1993.
Fleming's Bond was never fussy about fashion; remember how Blofeld's troops made him because of his OLD FASHIONED ski gear in the OHMSS. In fact being too well dressed was usually the mark of the enemy, and allways the mark of a cad, in the olden golden days.
-Mr Arlington Beech
http://www.jamesbondlifestyle.com/collections/modules/gallery/data/images/000483.jpg
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PS, the Tom Ford polos are slightly different...not as form fitting, different material, not as soft and "airy" etc and the pocket is slightly different.
Now that is funny!
DG
"People sleep peacefully in their beds at night only because rough men stand ready to do violence on their behalf." Richard Grenier after George Orwell, Washington Times 1993.
Quite. Moreover, Bond lives a dangerous life and has resolved to die with very little in the bank. He tries to enjoy life to the fullest.
Bond would buy what he considers the best watch, the best car, the best shirts. The best things in life don't come from one place. When we think of the best watches we think Swiss; Rolex, Omega etc. When we think the best shirts we think custom made, perhaps Turnbull & Asser. When we think the best sunglasses we think Persol, Ray Ban and dare I say it Oliver Peoples. I find the Tom Ford thing somewhat absurd.
I don't think I'll be buying much of the Tom Ford stuff. Certainly not the sunglasses. Although I get that some people may need the branding. I have to get my order in for the OP's. Looks like a very James Bond Christmas.
DG
"People sleep peacefully in their beds at night only because rough men stand ready to do violence on their behalf." Richard Grenier after George Orwell, Washington Times 1993.
I'm in possession of a pair of the Tom Ford sunglasses and am about to take photos of them which I'll post later today. In the meantime, can someone please tell me which images of Daniel Craig are being cited for comparison purposes.
Many thanks
Adam
James Bond (the book Bond) would eschew the whole SUP. If someone slapped a $1800 price tag on a $60 sweater/jumper Bond would say this kind of extravagance is for communist agents trying to look like Western millionaires. The fact that someone is just using the designs of someone else, or at least very similarly designed as someone else and charging those kinds of prices should have their work duplicated at a reasonable cost.
Here is the thread that I posted. At the time, obviously I didn't know a lot of what is known now. That was in the beginning of February.
Precisely the reason I have avoided designer label clothing like the plague. I used to work in clothing retail for years, and saw how quickly trends change, and how overpriced they can be. I buy clothes I like and (I hope!) look good on me. Its ironic that one or two pieces I have from time to time accidentally shadow Mr Craigs style, but do not copy it. - (Actor not his take on the character)
Having said that, I know one or two people who do copy the style from the films and get away with it briliantly! -{
It sounds like a EGO thing with TF. Everything MUST have his name on it no matter who's the original manufacture.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/moslive/article-1065871/The-Bond-Style.html
Love the Frogley quote:
Right! Exclusive interview with the costume department and they got it wrong?!?!?
Please back up your statement.
Whoever put the article together got it wrong. Newpapers have been known to do that now and again
The blue jacket IS Tom Ford - 100% confirmed, that's done and dusted.
Daniel Craig also wears a casual jacket by Y-3 in the movie, which as Mantis quite rightly states, is more than likely the black zip up jacket.
As for back up, I got that DIRECTLY from the Costume designer - Louise Frogley and Mantis has hard evidence, but I'll leave that for him
Duncan
Hostile? No. Straight to the point? Yes
I’ve been following these threads with amusement for quite some time and only recently decided to post some replies due to an overwhelming feeling of frustration.
I am a keen follower of Bond’s style and I’m always on the look out for items I can purchase myself.
But, in the world of the internet, it is very easy to say 100%, FACT, Hard Evidence, etc, etc, etc!!! But this is never back up?
Please supply some evidence that the jacket is in fact TF and not Y-3 without using any of the above statements?
Don’t tell me, you guys supplied the intelligence for the Bush Administration that Saddam had WMD’s as well?!?!?!?!
The article will be complete in the next couple of days and posted soon afterwards.
That is the ONLY reason why we haven't been able to say too much. Losing valuable contacts and getting blacklisted by Sony and EON just isn't worth it.
If we had our way then we'd get it on the web straight away. Nothing is being held back deliberatly
Duncan