Up skirt shot

Pud2002Pud2002 Posts: 65MI6 Agent
in Quantum of Solace - Bond 22 (2008)
Found this comment on IMDB

"Apologies for lowering the tone but I have just watched QoS and noticed that at the end of the attempted assault of a waitress close to the end of the film, the camera appears to focus up the victim's skirt revealing her 'womanliness' in the style of Sharon Stone a la 'Basic Instinct.'

I though it must have been just me mistaking panty for flesh but my girlfriend turned to immediately afterwards noticing the same thing.

Are we the only ones who noticed this? I am guessing that when this is out on DVD this will be edited out and even if it is not my girlfriend is sure to hide the remote so I cannot freeze frame to check.

Can anyone confirm or otherwise my observation?"

I thought i'll post it here because i noticed it too and wondered if anyone else did?
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  • emtiememtiem SurreyPosts: 5,948MI6 Agent
    It is a bafflingly strange and oddly long shot. You don't see anything, though, no.
  • ak007ak007 LondonPosts: 343MI6 Agent
    Yes i saw that too...
    It was strange to say the least. If it was indeed what we think it is :s then why on earth is the film a 12a?
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  • John DrakeJohn Drake On assignmentPosts: 2,564MI6 Agent
    ak007 wrote:
    Yes i saw that too...
    It was strange to say the least. If it was indeed what we think it is :s then why on earth is the film a 12a?

    I saw that too, but whether I saw more than I should have I have no idea as it was pretty dark up there.
  • maddyhindmaddyhind UKPosts: 106MI6 Agent
    its certainly not 12a material...
  • i expect u2 diei expect u2 die LondonPosts: 583MI6 Agent
    I found this shot really baffling - I also thought we were seeing the 'real thing'. The fact that so many of us have assumed this, suggests that the shot doesn't belong in a James Bond film, let alone a 12a. A major artistic misjudgment, I think.
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  • bondaholic007bondaholic007 LondonPosts: 878MI6 Agent
    I am surprised this wasn't cut-out by the BBFC ?
  • Gassy ManGassy Man USAPosts: 2,972MI6 Agent
    Shhhhhhhhhh . . . so they don't cut it out of the U.S. release.
  • John DrakeJohn Drake On assignmentPosts: 2,564MI6 Agent
    Gassy Man wrote:
    Shhhhhhhhhh . . . so they don't cut it out of the U.S. release.

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    Like they've done with every video and DVD release of TLD, panning and scanning so we never see Virginia Hey's chest. :(
  • c_a_r_t_e_r_3_5c_a_r_t_e_r_3_5 Posts: 116MI6 Agent
    It was very ood, the shot did seem to linger a while.

    There's a shot that lingered in CR too. When Bond and Vesper are lying on the remote beach towards the end of the film, it seems to linger on Daniel Craig's muscley, sandy back. Or is that just me?

    :)
  • A7ceA7ce Birmingham, EnglandPosts: 656MI6 Agent
    Er right, for the purposes of verification of thiis thread, I kept an eye out for this scene in the interest of science - and she was wearing skin tone tights/stockings.
  • RavenstoneRavenstone EnglandPosts: 152MI6 Agent
    I'm absolutely 100% certain she is wearing panties, and so is my partner.

    I think there is a reason for the shot, although we both thought it a little odd at the time. However, on thinking about it, it could be there to show that she hasn't been raped. She is still wearing her knickers and has therefore been saved that degredation.

    I think it's film-maker's shorthand.

    If we didn't see the knickers, we'd always be wondering why a rape scene was shown in a 12A. As it is, we can see it was an attempted rape scene.

    Mind you, I can't see the point in 12A. Either a 12 year old can see it, or they can't. What's having an adult with them going to change?
  • chrisno1chrisno1 LondonPosts: 3,598MI6 Agent
    I didnt think the shot was done deliberately at all, it's just another example of the general poor quality of the film. They probably didnt even notice what they had filmed and chose not to re-shoot it, it was probably the only decent shot they had, so they kept it in. You dont see anything. I didn't think the rape scene was necessary, it was clear the general was a bstd anyway
  • Shaken_not_StirredShaken_not_Stirred Posts: 9MI6 Agent
    I dont know what yall are complaining about, I loved it.

    ;););)

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  • walther p99walther p99 NJPosts: 3,416MI6 Agent
    that was a pretty awkward shot
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  • Tears in the RainTears in the Rain Posts: 4MI6 Agent
    edited November 2008
    Maybe it was the Q*** of Solace:p
  • PredatorPredator Posts: 790Chief of Staff
    edited November 2008
    Tears in the Rain wrote:
    Maybe it was the Q*** of Solace:p

    Clever not funny.

    In truth, I thought the scene crass and unnecessary but that's me.

    You don't see anything, but it is the concept that I disagree with ... does it add anything to the scene apart from some fanboy titillation at what they think they can see. Bond is better than that.
  • lavabubblelavabubble Posts: 229MI6 Agent
    I do think it's one of the most questionable parts of the film and I don't understand fully why it didn't end up cutting room floor material.

    The threat of rape is there, the significance of how the scene plays out is all there in terms of how it relates to Camille's past so why such a gratuitous shot? I don't get it.
  • Gassy ManGassy Man USAPosts: 2,972MI6 Agent
    Well, now that I've seen it, I must say that I thought I saw a little camel toe going on there . . . my old eyes might be deceiving me, of course. I believe the shot was not gratuitous -- at least no more gratuitous than anything else where we see people get blown up, blasted, shot, roasted alive, and drowned in motor oil. It added a hint of "adult" to the Bond films that hasn't been a part of the series' flavor for many, many years.
  • c_a_r_t_e_r_3_5c_a_r_t_e_r_3_5 Posts: 116MI6 Agent
    Hasn't been part of the series ever?

    :)
  • 72897289 Beau DesertPosts: 1,691MI6 Agent
    The "shot" in question fit in with the rather crude going's on in the scene and did not strike me as an attempt to be "sexy" or a tribute to Sharon Stone.

    Other viewers in the theatre gave out "woops" of joy, but I attribute that to persons locked into a permanent state of pre-pubescent stupidity.

    Whatever it was, no where near as "shocking" as Eva Green's moment in CR'06.
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  • Gassy ManGassy Man USAPosts: 2,972MI6 Agent
    c_a_r_t_e_r_3_5 wrote:
    Hasn't been part of the series ever?

    :)
    N'ah, for the time, the early Bonds pushed the envelope of what was considered prurient . . . right from the start with Sylvia Trench's sexy cigarette lighting at the gambling table and appearance in Bond's apartment wearing what appeared to only be high heels and Bond's dress shirt. Those elements seem quaint by today's standards, but they made the Bonds at the time seem much more adult than their contemporaries; I even recall the warnings of "mature" content before the films were broadcast on TV in the 70s and my parents making me look away during certain parts that were considered too naughty. I'm not saying the upskirt shot was classy or sexy by any stretch, but it is along the lines of pushing the envelope in an age where teens ejaculating in beer glasses and movies with "porno" in the title are de riguer.
  • c_a_r_t_e_r_3_5c_a_r_t_e_r_3_5 Posts: 116MI6 Agent
    I never considered the time in which the earlier films were released. I've only ever looked back on them with my naive eyes!

    :)
  • agent 00agent 00 Univex Station L Netherlands Posts: 340MI6 Agent
    edited November 2008
    Just enjoyed the film and as far as I've seen after freezing the scene she still has her panty's on.
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  • BFAzureBFAzure Posts: 10MI6 Agent
    Again, just stupid film-making. Just like the parachute-jump scene, without giving anything away. Just stupid.

    This director did a terrible job with this film. There's nothing else to say, really.

    Oh, and I loved the downright insulting allusions to "Godfather" (Pts 1&3) and "Battleship Potemkin". Jerk.
  • Agent WadeAgent Wade Ann ArborPosts: 321MI6 Agent
    While the upskirt was focused on for a longer-than-comfortable amount of time, it paled in comparrison to JAMES BOND IS OPENING UP MR. SLATE'S HOTEL ROOM AND HE'S WEARING AN OMEGA WATCH WHILE HE'S DOING IT BECAUSE OMEGA IS THE WATCH THAT JAMES BOND WEARS. TRUST OMEGA TO BE THE WATCH YOU NEED TO WEAR WHEN YOU ARE SNEAKING INTO BAD GUY'S ROOMS. THAT'S RIGHT, OMEGA. If you didn't catch onto that one, then you really weren't even watching.
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  • susinggihsusinggih Posts: 1MI6 Agent
    Just in case anyone of you still curious or in doubt. She's wearing a panties so it's quite safe.
    Here's the captured pics for you to see.

    Captured Upskirt Shot
  • JohmssJohmss Posts: 274MI6 Agent
    Agent Wade wrote:
    While the upskirt was focused on for a longer-than-comfortable amount of time, it paled in comparrison to JAMES BOND IS OPENING UP MR. SLATE'S HOTEL ROOM AND HE'S WEARING AN OMEGA WATCH WHILE HE'S DOING IT BECAUSE OMEGA IS THE WATCH THAT JAMES BOND WEARS. TRUST OMEGA TO BE THE WATCH YOU NEED TO WEAR WHEN YOU ARE SNEAKING INTO BAD GUY'S ROOMS. THAT'S RIGHT, OMEGA. If you didn't catch onto that one, then you really weren't even watching.

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    Bond has the special ability to always show his "tools".

    The rape scene, although it was believable (he has going to rape her), it has more sense that other sadly scenes (yes, i'm looking at you bed scene from DAD), it was very explicit and yes, it would be better if those 30 seconds were destined to something else.

    it always seems that she was showing something more than her "knikers" (?) but perhaps it was a sicological response to the fact that i haven't seen those (in a bond film)
  • ToshTogoToshTogo Rep. of South AfricaPosts: 103MI6 Agent
    Tears in the Rain wrote:
    Maybe it was the Q*** of Solace:p

    Bwaa hahahhahaha, you cunning linguist !!!

    Saw the scene again, and im pretty sure she is wearing panties ( damn )
  • sped98sped98 Posts: 5MI6 Agent
    edited November 2008
    you guys stop spoiling it...
    she wasnt wearing any underwear as im 100% positive i seen **** lol....now leave us to enjoy the lingering thought.

    Clean it up, dude. HB
  • heartbroken_mr_draxheartbroken_mr_drax New Zealand Posts: 2,073MI6 Agent
    Yea the shot was a little pointless, but I define the purpose as showing the rape has stopped without showing her face.

    Problem was though it felt out of place.
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