Quantum of Solace Versus Casino Royale
nyc007
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I am very interested to hear which you guys thought was the better film and how you would rate and compare each.
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Took the words out of my mouth Barbel! CR all the way. {[]
Wasn't sure what to expect with CR, so the element of surprise for DCs Bond made it more spectacular. We've seen that now, so QoS was never going to be as good for me, however I thought it was far better than I thought it was going to be.
If CR set the measure at 10/10, then QoS was a close 9/10.
BTW are you ignoring me 'cos I slated the film!?
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I agree with Strangeways. I prefered CR for the script, and the love story (call me a romantic ;% ) however I thought QoS was great, but very different. (I would like to have seen more dialog between Camille and Bond....but you can't have everything...:D ) But I give the rating the same.
Though Casino Royale is probably better, QoS is still great!
But that's my opinion.
QoS is a faster film in terms of the plot, the action and the script and I liked that as a big change to CR. They're just so different to each other they're quite difficult to compare I think.
CR oozes class throughout...but it's the script that really shines here (as does DC ), it's also a great love story (but don't tell anyone I said that, I can't have my reputation sullied
QoS is a great Bond film..but a couple of notches behind CR...I love the last frame of the film in particular...
Yeah love the last frame too!
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Good thoughts, Gassy Man. Am behind you there!
The PTS
Much better in CR, one of the best PTS in the series
1:0
The Titles
CR had better titles and a much better song
2:0
The Action
I don't actually mind CR's action scenes. As for QOS's action there was a little too much and it was badly edited
2:1
The Score
Both fantastic
3:2
The Girls
I like Camille better than Vesper, she was more attractive and one of the most interesting Bond girls in a while.
3:3
The Villains
Mr. White was more mysterious in CR than in QOS. Le Chiffre is much better than Dominic Green. The henchmen were equally pointless in both.
4:3
The Allies
Mathis was good in CR, but more interesting in QOS.
4:4
The Staff
M was a pointless character in CR, I hated the fact that Bond was able to break into her house.
4:5
The Plot
CR had an advantage: it had a novel to be basd on. Nevertheless, the screenwriters screwed up.
4:6
QOS wins!
To me CR feels like a solid novel and Quantum a great short story.
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I just got back from a second viewing of QoS and what it is marred somewhat by some poorly shot action scenes, it is a much better paced film that, given its running time, doesn't wear out its welcome. The characters are all far more engaging and it did a better job of holding my attention. The film is really single-minded in terms of advancing the plot and it manages to successfully juggle both the "A" story of Bond trying to foil Greene's plans with the "B" story of Bond coming to terms with conflicted feelings about his relationship with Vesper.
So for me, the winner is QoS by a very comfortable margin.
I doubt anything will ever top CR, easily the best Bond film in the franchise.....by miles.
I liked (aghast) QoS action sequences (especially the initial car chase and the final hotel scene...by far my favourite part), the relationship between Camille and Bond, the M and Bond banter and deepening relationship there and also the way Fields got killed. However, Greene did not quite do it for me and there seemed to be a lack of depth to QoS (when compared to CR)...idk, just something was missing.
For me, CR inches out QoS by just a wee bit. They were both great films that I thoroughly enjoyed and will watch over and over again. Thank you Eon and thanks DC, you've made me happy yet again. I have no room to complain.
Many here will scoff at CR having an attempt at being realistic, with the Madagascar scene and the Miami airport scene, yet even then, we saw Bond nervous before jumping off the crane. There was a sense of `will he, won't he' throughout CR. We were rooting for the new rookie Bond because of it.
I think QoS has lost some of that edge, by making Bond borderline super hero again in many parts of the film. I never once felt as though he was in danger, and I want to feel that when watching a Bond film, as this echoes the Fleming books perfectly.
I've never felt that sense of danger in hardly any of the Bond flicks, which is why CR is unique, and is ranked no.1 on my all-time favourite Bond flicks, by a long way, and no. 2 in my rankings is quite a way behind it.
Casino Royale is big, big for Bond. I love it but I feel that its very much like an OHMSS, well the Tracy parts especially. It introduces Craig well and sets up the new tone.
QoS is big, but big in the right Bond sense. I have seen nothing like this from Bond before, maybe thats why I like it better. I found the experience far more Bond-like than CR, even though elements were missing.
I truely feel that the correct Bond has emerged from QoS (esp. the latter half) and it will make the experience far less disposable than some of the previous Bonds, Brosnan's come to mind here.
PTS and post credit chase: CR
Plot: CR (But pretty shakey)
Bond: QoS
Girl: QoS
Villian: CR
Locations: QoS
Soundtrack: QoS
Ratings: QoS 4.5/5...CR 4/5
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