Hi,
Bought myself last week also a Walther PPK. 100% REAL from a respectable gun dealer who got it from an old German army/police stock. It looks like it has never been used. Nicely blued, brown grips. About the swastika on Michaels gun. Desmond Llewelyn used to carry a similar gun with swastika in his FRWL attaché case. (Ask ED to confirm.)
...and that is the exact model PPK used in QOS {[]
Long time lurker here, but I'm curious since I haven't found the information anywhere else... Asp9mm, you wouldn't happen to know the year PPK that was used in QOS, would you? I'm no Walther expert, but from the markings this one appears to be a late 60's variety.
Would it be a PPK/S (in 380 ACP/9mm Kurz), not the classic Bondian PPK (.32/7.65mm), that DC used in QoS? It appears to me that the weapon in QoS has a slightly longer grip than the PPK.
Just in case this slipped by those in the know... Anyone willing to share the year PPK used in QOS. I've also sent an e-mail to Asp9mm since it appears he has not posted here in months.
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Congrats on reciving your Walther PPK replica. I am hopping in the future myself to fit a mock silencer to my Rings Blue Guns PPK.
Also I wanted to share with everyone that the Walther PPK used by Timothy Dalton in LTK was sourced from Stembridge Gun Rentals (a famous American prop weapons supplier that closed a few years agon.) rather than Bapty since filming was done in Mexico and the US due to increases in film taxes in England. This PPK was recently seen as part of an exhibition of movie and televison prop guns at the NRA museum, and apperently this same PPK with different grip panels was used on Magnum P.I. as Tom Selleck's backup gun in several episodes. Here is a link to view some pictures:http://www.imfdb.org/wiki/Licence_to_Kill
The YouTube video where the PPK is shown and dicussed:
This is a pretty old thread and it seems a bit "weird" to be posting in it again.
Just a couple of quick points:
No way to tell what year Craig's PPK is without the serial number. It's a German pistol made towards the end of production sometime before AD2000. Our friend ASP was pretty well connected and might have the serial number - but he hasn't posted in some time.
Craig's pistol is a PPK - not a PPK/S. The caliber looks to be a .32 - although .380 PPK's were apparently used in the Moore era. The original "PPK" in Dr. No was a .380 Modell PP.
Dalton's pistol is a can of worms! The PPK that appears in the film has a dovetailed rear sight and Sile wood stocks - it had also been re-blued as the barrel that shows through the ejection port is blued and not polished steel (silver colored). The pistol in the NRA video has a rear sight that is milled out the the rear of the slide - so it is NOT the one used in the close up shots in the film.
I have seen on the internet two PPK's proported to have been used by Dalton - neither looks legit. When the Stembridge Prop house was sold most likely every PPK they had was claimed to have been used by the LTK production. Much in the same way the mother of Jesse James ( the famous outlaw not the "cheater" married to Sandra Bullock) used to buy old handguns and sell them to tourists as used by her famous son - - "anything for a buck".
Originally in this thread we thought that Dalton PPK was made after WW2 - as the slide profiles are very different. But after looking at several scenes - Hemingway House, "Farwell to Arms", Dirty Love and Sanchez's Office - I believe that the License to Kill PPK was a pre-war pistol. The PPK in the title credits is also pre-war.
I doubt we will ever know for certain which if any of the PPK's attributed to LTK is the screen used handgun. At this point in time though, the NRA example looks as "correct" as any.
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Long time lurker here, but I'm curious since I haven't found the information anywhere else... Asp9mm, you wouldn't happen to know the year PPK that was used in QOS, would you? I'm no Walther expert, but from the markings this one appears to be a late 60's variety.
I feel better knowing this {[] Cheers.
Also I wanted to share with everyone that the Walther PPK used by Timothy Dalton in LTK was sourced from Stembridge Gun Rentals (a famous American prop weapons supplier that closed a few years agon.) rather than Bapty since filming was done in Mexico and the US due to increases in film taxes in England. This PPK was recently seen as part of an exhibition of movie and televison prop guns at the NRA museum, and apperently this same PPK with different grip panels was used on Magnum P.I. as Tom Selleck's backup gun in several episodes. Here is a link to view some pictures:http://www.imfdb.org/wiki/Licence_to_Kill
The YouTube video where the PPK is shown and dicussed:
Just a couple of quick points:
No way to tell what year Craig's PPK is without the serial number. It's a German pistol made towards the end of production sometime before AD2000. Our friend ASP was pretty well connected and might have the serial number - but he hasn't posted in some time.
Craig's pistol is a PPK - not a PPK/S. The caliber looks to be a .32 - although .380 PPK's were apparently used in the Moore era. The original "PPK" in Dr. No was a .380 Modell PP.
Dalton's pistol is a can of worms! The PPK that appears in the film has a dovetailed rear sight and Sile wood stocks - it had also been re-blued as the barrel that shows through the ejection port is blued and not polished steel (silver colored). The pistol in the NRA video has a rear sight that is milled out the the rear of the slide - so it is NOT the one used in the close up shots in the film.
I have seen on the internet two PPK's proported to have been used by Dalton - neither looks legit. When the Stembridge Prop house was sold most likely every PPK they had was claimed to have been used by the LTK production. Much in the same way the mother of Jesse James ( the famous outlaw not the "cheater" married to Sandra Bullock) used to buy old handguns and sell them to tourists as used by her famous son - - "anything for a buck".
Originally in this thread we thought that Dalton PPK was made after WW2 - as the slide profiles are very different. But after looking at several scenes - Hemingway House, "Farwell to Arms", Dirty Love and Sanchez's Office - I believe that the License to Kill PPK was a pre-war pistol. The PPK in the title credits is also pre-war.
I doubt we will ever know for certain which if any of the PPK's attributed to LTK is the screen used handgun. At this point in time though, the NRA example looks as "correct" as any.
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