Probably the latter. A lot of stylistic changes seemed unwarranted in QoS (why the total change of the interior for MI6?). Whether you like the changes or not in QoS, it seems maybe that Forster wanted to bring in his own people, who probably had no vested interest in continuity.
Thunderbird 2East of Cardiff, Wales.Posts: 2,817MI6 Agent
edited January 2009
I must admit, for the the best Bond wardrobe films were TWINE, and CR.
I would not want to dress Bond, it a logistical nightmare, but I just feel there is something about the Tom Ford stuff that doesn't sit quite right. I think it may be that the suits look too well, "polished." Bond is a character that has tailored clothes by preference, but the cut of Ford is a little too showy for my taste. It lacks subtlty, which is something Bond should have in all his clothing tastes.
- I am biased, I love CR, and I have to switch off my tailoring sense when I watch the Moore and Connery films, because the wardrobe has dated painfully due to fashion flair of the day.
I feel the clothing of QofS will date in the same way very quickly. In Evening suit terms, Shawl collar lapel style can work in a classic sense, if the man wearing the dinner suit looks right in it. In Criag's case it doesn't because it looks underscale on his larger frame. (The previous style looked much better on him than Pierce Brosnan for this reason. Brosnan could have carried the shawl collar jacket well, its ironic he never wore one.) - The satin sleeve cuffs hark back to a past era too, which seems wrong. Re the sunglasses fiasco - anything over £10 for dark glasses is excessive in my book! But thats me.
As far as the other suits and the casual clothes are concerned, they come across as showy and a bit blatent, rather than smart yet practical. The shawl collar cardigan emplifies this - it is a classic, timeless style, but here it just doesn't sit well in the way its used. Perhaps I am being a little unfair but there seems to be little blending of different clothing styles, cuts and moods - unrealistic since no one outside of celebrity / offensively wealthy circles exclusivley wears overpriced clothing only from one specific label or manufacturer?
Urhash, I have realised you hit the nail on the head. Part of the problem is when and where Bond is wearing certain things, as much as what is worn in itself.
I do think they need to have a rethink. (On many levels!) Bond should be creating fashion trends, not being a slave to them.
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As far as the other suits and the casual clothes are concerned, they come across as showy and a bit blatent, rather than smart yet practical. The shawl collar cardigan emplifies this - it is a classic, timeless style, but here it just doesn't sit well in the way its used. Perhaps I am being a little unfair but there seems to be little blending of different clothing styles, cuts and moods - unrealistic since no one outside of celebrity / offensively wealthy circles exclusivley wears overpriced clothing only from one specific label or manufacturer?
I think that's an EXCELLENT point, which no one has really mentioned before.
From GE -> CR, the style of the clothes was such that Hemming acted on behalf of Bond as his personal shopper, choosing the finest items from different sources. QoS on the other hand, is a more blatant product placement (e.g. Tom Ford: Bond's Choice for EVERYTHING).
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I would not want to dress Bond, it a logistical nightmare, but I just feel there is something about the Tom Ford stuff that doesn't sit quite right. I think it may be that the suits look too well, "polished." Bond is a character that has tailored clothes by preference, but the cut of Ford is a little too showy for my taste. It lacks subtlty, which is something Bond should have in all his clothing tastes.
- I am biased, I love CR, and I have to switch off my tailoring sense when I watch the Moore and Connery films, because the wardrobe has dated painfully due to fashion flair of the day.
I feel the clothing of QofS will date in the same way very quickly. In Evening suit terms, Shawl collar lapel style can work in a classic sense, if the man wearing the dinner suit looks right in it. In Criag's case it doesn't because it looks underscale on his larger frame. (The previous style looked much better on him than Pierce Brosnan for this reason. Brosnan could have carried the shawl collar jacket well, its ironic he never wore one.) - The satin sleeve cuffs hark back to a past era too, which seems wrong. Re the sunglasses fiasco - anything over £10 for dark glasses is excessive in my book! But thats me.
As far as the other suits and the casual clothes are concerned, they come across as showy and a bit blatent, rather than smart yet practical. The shawl collar cardigan emplifies this - it is a classic, timeless style, but here it just doesn't sit well in the way its used. Perhaps I am being a little unfair but there seems to be little blending of different clothing styles, cuts and moods - unrealistic since no one outside of celebrity / offensively wealthy circles exclusivley wears overpriced clothing only from one specific label or manufacturer?
Urhash, I have realised you hit the nail on the head. Part of the problem is when and where Bond is wearing certain things, as much as what is worn in itself.
I do think they need to have a rethink. (On many levels!) Bond should be creating fashion trends, not being a slave to them.
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I think that's an EXCELLENT point, which no one has really mentioned before.
From GE -> CR, the style of the clothes was such that Hemming acted on behalf of Bond as his personal shopper, choosing the finest items from different sources. QoS on the other hand, is a more blatant product placement (e.g. Tom Ford: Bond's Choice for EVERYTHING).