Film Colorization, Film Restoration, Film Cartoonizer Softwares...

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Here offered some terms about film colorization, film restoration and film cartoonizer...

Film colorist is state of the art computer-assisted process of adding color to a monochrome image or movie straight from Log files. Filmcolorist enables high quality colorizations of stills and movie clips may be obtained from a relatively modest amount of user input...

Cartoonizer uses NPR techniques to convert regular Movie into a cartoon animation Movie with vaious automated and manual process as there is a growing need for television and theaterical animation. This forms an essential Tool for studios to open a new Horizon...

Restoration is a software solution for automatic, semi-automatic and manual film restoration for the professional market. Since more than 2 years restoration's technology is being used successfully in film archives, post-houses, studios and laboratories...

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  • Mark HazardMark Hazard West Midlands, UKPosts: 495MI6 Agent
    I remember when I first saw the colourised version of The Longest Day on tv.

    I hadn't realised that it was colourised (and it wasn't advertised as such) and with the opening credits rolling, I became suspicious, I could have sworn that the helmet wasn't green last time I saw it. I then began to wonder if memory was slipping (again) and that perhaps the credits were in colour.

    The film proper started and I wasn't best pleased with the attempt at colouring it, I stuck with it as long as I could (maybe 15-20 minutes) and then gave up. I remember watching out for it a few times afterwards, each time checking the opening credits and if they were in colour watched something else. A friend claims to have seen a colourised version of The Hill, but as yet haven't found it myself.

    With the possible exception of very old films, leave them as they were made, once colour became popular, the producers had a choice and I would think that from the 50s onwards, if the film was made in black & white, that's the way they wanted it - OK some may not have been able to afford colour, but still leave them be.
  • LoeffelholzLoeffelholz The United States, With LovePosts: 8,998Quartermasters
    edited February 2009
    My opinion: Restore films. Don't colourise them. Black and white is a beautiful and distinctive art form all its own, and should be respected for this distinctiveness.
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  • Willie GarvinWillie Garvin Posts: 1,412MI6 Agent
    edited February 2009
    Indeed.Use today's advanced technology to restore black and white films, but please don't color them.Frankly,I have no desire to see tinted versions of Citizen Kane or This Gun for Hire or Murder,My Sweet or The Bad and the Beautiful.It's bad enough attempts have been made to color Casablanca,King Kong and The Maltese Falcon.
  • LoeffelholzLoeffelholz The United States, With LovePosts: 8,998Quartermasters
    edited February 2009
    My wife and I still laugh about when Ted Turner (SuperStation WTBS) first got into this stupid 'colourisation' craze, back in the late '80s...we were watching a (badly) colourised verson of Sands of Iwo Jima, and it looked like the Duke and his boys were storming the beaches of the planet Mars! 8-) :))
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  • 72897289 Beau DesertPosts: 1,691MI6 Agent
    Black & White filmaking is an art all it's own - and it's near criminal to take a "monochrome" film and colorize it.
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  • Napoleon PluralNapoleon Plural LondonPosts: 10,427MI6 Agent
    edited February 2009
    Oh I don't know.

    Actually, Bond nerd that I am, I was thinking of monochroming the early Bond films on a 22in standard TV, all the better to see them as I did as a 6 year old! :D

    The colorization of the 1966 World Cup looks great, and I'm sure even Loeffs would appreciate this:

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  • TonyDPTonyDP Inside the MonolithPosts: 4,303MI6 Agent
    edited February 2009
    In the right hands colorization can be a useful tool. Certain sitcoms like Gilligan's Island and I Dream of Jeannie shot their first seasons in black and white for purely economical reasons and the creative powers that be were not averse to colorizing those old shows since the intent had been to have them in color anyway.

    Likewise, legendary stop motion special effects guru Ray Harryhausen recently oversaw the colorization of several of his movies including Earth vs. The Flying Saucers. Mr. Harryhausen himself stated in the commentary that he wanted the film to be in color but simply could not afford the film stock back when it was being made. He was tickled pink that he was finally able to bring his original vision to fruition.

    So while I'd never condone the kinds of travesties that Ted Turner unleashed on the public (didnt't he once want to colorize the B&W scenes in The Wizard of Oz?), believe it or not, there are the occasional situations where colorization can actually be a benefit and even the original creative staff support and embrace it. I don't see anything wrong with that, especially when the original B&W master is included as well (as was the case with the Harryhausen films).
  • LoeffelholzLoeffelholz The United States, With LovePosts: 8,998Quartermasters
    edited February 2009
    Napoleon Plural wrote:
    I'm sure even Loeffs would appreciate this:

    'Even Loeffs'? Gosh, that sounds dire :#

    As a lifelong Beatles fan, there'll be no discouraging words forthcoming from me...I wasn't aware it had been colourised, as I've never seen it in B & W! All the same, I was very much in need of a cheering up this evening, and that link did the trick. Thanks for posting {[]

    To Tony's point: I think, in those instances when the original creators of the work in question are still available---and approve of the colouring---obviously that's a different matter...and classic shows with a majority of their episodes (i.e., identity with their audiences) already in colour is similarly no big deal.
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  • Dan SameDan Same Victoria, AustraliaPosts: 6,054MI6 Agent
    edited February 2009
    I'm with Loeff and 7289. Yes, colourisation may be suitable in some situations, but to colourise a film like Casablanca is a capital offence. :s

    I don't have a problem with colourising TV shows if, as Tony noted, they were always intended to be filmed in colour anyway, and they weren't at the start for economic reasons. In some cases, colour just looks a heck of a lot better, I am a huge fan of The Avengers. Most of the episodes I've seen are in colour, and althugh I generally have no problem with Black & White, Diana Rigg does look more beautiful in colour. :D But these shows (Bewitched, The Avengers, Get Smart) are a continous process which are generally not the vision of a single creator (there are exceptions of course.) Cinema however is a like a single snapshot, often forged by one creator, and I think that to go against the director's wishes is unforgivable. ;)
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  • Napoleon PluralNapoleon Plural LondonPosts: 10,427MI6 Agent
    I meant 'Even Loeffs...' as in notwithstanding your aversion to colourisation... :)

    Mind you, I'd baulk at colorising A Hard Day's Night...
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  • AlexAlex The Eastern SeaboardPosts: 2,694MI6 Agent
    TonyDP wrote:
    I don't see anything wrong with that, especially when the original B&W master is included as well (as was the case with the Harryhausen films).
    But only IF a remastered negative of the original b&w version is included in the package. Such was the case with the three Harryhausen releases, such was my reasoning for double dipping.

    Ray has every right to tinker with these films, they are after all, his. But the statement for an artist's "original vision" is basically the same one Lucas made. Personally, I don't buy it. I prefer to see them the way film history recorded them.

    During the late 80s or so, I picked up a colorized tape of Romero's NOTLD. The attraction wore off pretty quick, as a classic example of noir horror was rendered into a splotchy mess.

    I have no problem with companies tinkering. It's a novelty. (Vampira sure looked hotter), just be sure to include a reworked orginal version as well! I can't emphasise enough how important that last sentence is!!
  • Napoleon PluralNapoleon Plural LondonPosts: 10,427MI6 Agent
    edited February 2009
    Alex wrote:
    I have no problem with companies tinkering. It's a novelty. (Vampira sure looked hotter), just be sure to include a reworked orginal version as well! I can't emphasise enough how important that last sentence is!!

    It's easy, you use the underline or bold key codes. eg:

    I have no problem with companies tinkering. It's a novelty. (Vampira sure looked hotter), just be sure to include a reworked orginal version as well!

    You could also put in in caps... :D
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  • LoeffelholzLoeffelholz The United States, With LovePosts: 8,998Quartermasters
    Napoleon Plural wrote:
    Mind you, I'd baulk at colorising A Hard Day's Night...

    Oh, absolutely {[] That one looks great as is.

    The colourisation of All You Need Is Love must have been done not all that long after the event itself. I swear, I've been seeing that in colour for decades :s
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  • AlexAlex The Eastern SeaboardPosts: 2,694MI6 Agent
    I'd like to thank Ann 'Nap' Landers for the boldface instruction. ;)

    I also liked it when Legend films colorized the 1959 sci-fi schlock masterpiece, Missile To The Moon.

    Yes, now all those gorgeous moon maidens are rendered the appropriate lunar green!. For Trek fans with an Orion woman fetish. (Or the Incredible She Hulk, take your pick), it's a wonderful viewing experience. ;%
  • TonyDPTonyDP Inside the MonolithPosts: 4,303MI6 Agent
    edited February 2009
    Alex wrote:
    Yes, now all those gorgeous moon maidens are rendered the appropriate lunar green!. For Trek fans with an Orion woman fetish. (Or the Incredible She Hulk, take your pick), it's a wonderful viewing experience. ;%

    Alex, you've just taken the whole "going green" fad to an entirely new level! :))
  • Napoleon PluralNapoleon Plural LondonPosts: 10,427MI6 Agent
    Alex wrote:
    I'd like to thank Ann 'Nap' Landers for the boldface instruction. ;)

    ?:) Googles... ah, a US agony aunt like our own Marje Proops. :)
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  • FelixLeiter ♀FelixLeiter ♀ Staffordshire or a pubPosts: 1,286MI6 Agent
    That All You Need is Love looks briliant. I then went and looked at some Doctor Who ones. I typed colourisation and doctor who came on the selection thingy. Some are unbelievably good and its obviously taken people ages, though others are appalingly dreaful and should be confined away FOREVER. :D
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  • LOO7K OUTLOO7K OUT United KingdomPosts: 474MI6 Agent
    Doctor Who restoration is amazingly leading the way in television restoration.

    What they can do with murky old film prints is astounding.

    The latest breakthrough is incredible. All 1970s Doctor who was made and broadcast on colour video tape. Sadly, because of the state of the BBC archives, there are quite a few episodes that exist as black and white 16mm film prints only.

    It has been discovered that the majority of these prints have the colour information still present, so it is possible to extract and restore much of the original colour.

    Have a look here for more details on the latest one. Go to DVD releases and click on the Dalek war boxset.

    http://www.restoration-team.co.uk/

    A lost colour episode of Dad's Army was restored this way too. It's early days, but it's way better than colourisation, as what you are seeing is the original colour.

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  • FelixLeiter ♀FelixLeiter ♀ Staffordshire or a pubPosts: 1,286MI6 Agent
    Yes - i saw that Dad's Army ep and it was amazing. they showed a programme either before or after about how it was all done. :o truly amazing...
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  • LOO7K OUTLOO7K OUT United KingdomPosts: 474MI6 Agent
    It is indeed. As much as I love Dad's Army, the thought of Planet of the Daleks ep 3 being in Colour is so exciting. Mind you, just imaginer Mind of Evil in full colour... :p
  • clumclum Santa Cruz, CAPosts: 63MI6 Agent
    i thought the colorized 1933 King Kong (done in 2005) turned out pretty well

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1qBA750YNiE&feature=related
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