Is Bond Getting Better At Revenge?
Thunderpussy
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Just a thought on LTK & QOS.
In TLK, Bond Totaly destroys the villans operation, sets the seeds of mistrust causing the villan to kill his own trusted men and in the end Bond kills him.
In QOS, Quantum is still up and running, Bond loses Mr White, and dosen't kill the villan.
Now I'm not putting the boot into QOS but just wondering if Daltond's Bond was a harder nut, and with the new politicaly correct times Bond has to be in touch with his Femenine side and not be as cold and vicious as in the good old 80's
In TLK, Bond Totaly destroys the villans operation, sets the seeds of mistrust causing the villan to kill his own trusted men and in the end Bond kills him.
In QOS, Quantum is still up and running, Bond loses Mr White, and dosen't kill the villan.
Now I'm not putting the boot into QOS but just wondering if Daltond's Bond was a harder nut, and with the new politicaly correct times Bond has to be in touch with his Femenine side and not be as cold and vicious as in the good old 80's
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I look at it this way: In CR, Bond's first mission as a '00' is basically a failure (a marked difference to the novel, BTW). In QoS, Bond wrecks Dominic Greene's plans for running Bolivia via its water supply (success), sees that Greene will not survive the escapade (the slimy b*****d deserved it), and brings in Vesper's treacherous old boyfriend (success, coupled with self-restraint). He's getting better...
I seem to recall that Connery took more than two films to roll SPECTRE up...
"I am not an entrant in the Shakespeare Stakes." - Ian Fleming
"Screw 'em." - Daniel Craig, The Best James Bond EverTM
But Craig's Bond is earlier in his career than the Bond of LTK was, so we can expect him to progress toward such a point---hopefully to greater box office success
"I am not an entrant in the Shakespeare Stakes." - Ian Fleming
"Screw 'em." - Daniel Craig, The Best James Bond EverTM
I don't know all Kurosawa's Work But He did The Seven Samuri, Which as I'm Sure You Know Was Filmed By Hollywood As The Magnificent Seven. One Of The Greatest Westerns Ever Made.
After All Bond Is a Modern Samuri/Knight, I Loved Brosnan's Take On Bond, That Bond = King Arthur, Q = Merlin ( who gives him his sword etc ) and the Villan of the Piece = The Dragon.
After All As They Say There's Nothing New Under The Sun
For a fistfull of dollars.
It’s very interesting to watch those two movies back to back, as you can see that they are so similar that even most of the camera angles are exactly the same.
It was later done a third time, now starring Bruce Willis, now called Last man standing. Again, same story, now set as a 1930’s gangstermovie. In my opinion they shouldn’t have bothered with the third one, as the first two were great so this one is just a superflous dissapointment.
More people have ‘borrowed’from Kurosawa. Star Wars: A New Hope is nothing more than Kurosawa’s Hidden Fortress in space. But Lucas made it up to him by financing and producing some of Kurosawa’s later pictures.
As for the LTK/QOS thing, I think LTK was a very personal revenge for Bond, where as QOS it’s also personal but also part of his job. This allows Bond to be more professional about it. There is also something to gain from letting Vesper’s boyfried live. He gets to be interrogated.
There was no need to interrogate Sanchez...
The LTK/QOS Question I posed was just a Little tongue-in-cheek post,It's up there with which Bond actor would win a fist fight.
If they had of had Q being killed by Sanchez, perhaps dieing in Bonds Arms that would of been one great Bond moment.
Please, watch them back to back. You'll find it both enlightening and entertaining, I assure you.
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