QoS Bolivia Arrival Suit

Sorry if this has been covered elsewhere. Just wondered what is colour of the suit that DC wears on the virgin flight and arrival in Bolivia. I think he wears the champagne coloured TF tie too?

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  • walther p99walther p99 NJPosts: 3,416MI6 Agent
    correct me if im wrong but i believe its charcoal.
  • toutbruntoutbrun Washington, USAPosts: 1,501MI6 Agent
    http://ajb007.co.uk/topic/34036/champagne-tie-is-up-on-magnoli/

    With those newer captures/photos, the suit does seem to appear more brown, and would go along with the brown/champagne tie. Bond seems to have better co-ordination between his suit and tie colors in this movie. The problem is that the suits are all made from a wool-mohair blend; mohair is too delicate to use alone, so fabric has to also incorporate wool. Mohair has a slight sheen to it, which is the first complication -- it can appear differently depending on lighting and viewing angle. I have a Brioni dinner jacket with a mohair blend, and you can see a slight shine if someone takes a flash photo, but it appears matte and darker without a flash. The second problem is being blended with wool means a different color can be mixed into the fabric making a specific color even more difficult to identify. Someone should try to find a Tom Ford suiting fabric swatch book and see if they can find it in there. - Roikins
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  • UpyJediUpyJedi London,UKPosts: 126MI6 Agent
    Check out baron boutique. They do a replica Bolivia suit with shirt and tie included!!
  • BLU8BLU8 Ontario, CanadaPosts: 418MI6 Agent
    I believe that the suit Bond wears when he arrives in La Paz is dark brown, which goes with the champagne-coloured tie. However, in some of the photos from that scene, the suit tends to look charcoal & the tie looks greyish-silver. But I believe that dark brown is the "true" colour of the suit.
  • toutbruntoutbrun Washington, USAPosts: 1,501MI6 Agent
    We've talked a lot about Magnoli's ties, but I've never heard any review for a Baron Champagne tie...
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  • BLU8BLU8 Ontario, CanadaPosts: 418MI6 Agent
    toutbrun wrote:
    We've talked a lot about Magnoli's ties, but I've never heard any review for a Baron Champagne tie...

    I'm not sure if anyone here has bought Baron Boutique's Bolivia suit, & there are no pics of the tie itself on the website. But I'd be interested to find out if it is as accuate as Magnoli's. Judging from the photos on the Baron website, the suit comes in charcoal (which I feel is incorrect), & the tie is the silver-grey colour I mentioned in my previous post. The reference pic of Craig on the site also doesn't show the detailed pattern on the tie, which makes me wonder if Baron's replica actually has the pattern or not. Overall, it looks like Baron's replica of the suit & tie are based on how it is perceived in that reference pic rather than how the outfit actually looked. Bear in mind that this is all speculation on my part, since I do not currently own either Magnoli or Baron's Bolivia ties.
  • toutbruntoutbrun Washington, USAPosts: 1,501MI6 Agent
    Someone has to find out.
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  • exchange239exchange239 Posts: 3MI6 Agent
    According to Indy at Magnoli it is a dark brown 3-button (rolled down to the 2nd button) in a worsted weave, with the Tom Ford 5-button functional cuff.
  • UpyJediUpyJedi London,UKPosts: 126MI6 Agent
    I've actually ordered the baron Bolivia suit. If it does turn out to be more completely charcol I'm not concerned as I need a charcol suit. I will post pics when it arrives.
  • 00 Aussie00 Aussie Posts: 50MI6 Agent
    UpyJedi wrote:
    I've actually ordered the baron Bolivia suit. If it does turn out to be more completely charcol I'm not concerned as I need a charcol suit. I will post pics when it arrives.

    UpyJedi

    Any news on the suit? I have been thinking of ordering from BB for a while, but still not quite comfortable with the potential quality. I am anxiously awaiting for your results.
  • drum007drum007 New York, NYPosts: 684MI6 Agent
    Someone on here already posted pics:

    http://www.ajb007.co.uk/topic/31959/baron-boutique-qos-suit/page/2/

    I'm considering going in on 2 suits (Dark Charcoal and maybe a lighter grey). I emailed them a while back and they said they are able to make them in different fabrics, etc... I'd like to see more pics as well.
  • UpyJediUpyJedi London,UKPosts: 126MI6 Agent
    Yes! Got my suit last week. Perfect fit! Apart from the trousers which need shortening. That's my fault though cause I opted to play it safe in my measurements..... IMO the suit is great, but the grey is lacking that tint of brown that it appears to have in the film at certain times. It only took about 4weeks too! Oh, and you get a shirt and tie as well.:D
  • sruzgarsruzgar Welcome to ScotlandPosts: 1,468MI6 Agent
    from looking at the swatch card and some recent self education on suiting fabrics I think its a black/brown "nail-head" fabric

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    would love to see pics of your suit though!
  • toutbruntoutbrun Washington, USAPosts: 1,501MI6 Agent
    sruzgar wrote:
    from looking at the swatch card and some recent self education on suiting fabrics I think its a black/brown "nail-head" fabric

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    would love to see pics of your suit though!

    Where is that fabric from? It seems to white for me...
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  • richi717richi717 Posts: 124MI6 Agent
    i think he is just using it as an example of the fabric type.
  • sruzgarsruzgar Welcome to ScotlandPosts: 1,468MI6 Agent
    Yea sorry if that wasnt clear the first picture is just some example of nail-head fabric whereas teh second picture is obviously a swatch from the Bolivia arrival suit
  • ABeech007ABeech007 New England, USPosts: 30MI6 Agent
    The details are all wrong (collar, vents, no ticket pocket), but I'm betting the material in this suit from Banana Republic is similar to the Bolivia Arrival Suit.

    http://bananarepublic.gap.com/browse/product.do?cid=5376&vid=1&pid=672267

    Notice from the pictures how the suit sometimes appears charcoal and sometimes appears more brown.
  • toutbruntoutbrun Washington, USAPosts: 1,501MI6 Agent
    ABeech007 wrote:
    The details are all wrong (collar, vents, no ticket pocket), but I'm betting the material in this suit from Banana Republic is similar to the Bolivia Arrival Suit.

    http://bananarepublic.gap.com/browse/product.do?cid=5376&vid=1&pid=672267

    Notice from the pictures how the suit sometimes appears charcoal and sometimes appears more brown.

    The suit that James Bond wears in the movie is called a Regency model and is finished in our exclusive cashmere/mohair fabrication. The suit retails for $9,670.

    Not only the model has nothing to do with the Bolivia one, but even Magnoli's fabric is totally off. I'm not even sure Brioni has it. Maybe Zegna, they do most of Tom Ford's stuff.
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  • DBSDBS Los Angeles, CAPosts: 1,015MI6 Agent
    toutbrun wrote:
    The suit that James Bond wears in the movie is called a Regency model and is finished in our exclusive cashmere/mohair fabrication. The suit retails for $9,670.

    Toutbrun,

    Out of curiosity, where is this quote from? I've seen little (if any) info from Tom Ford regarding the clothing they provided for "QoS." Man, if I had the money he had, I'd sink a little into a better website. What is it with clothing designers? - most of their sites are horribly set up, hard to navigate, and offer little or no information.

    Kind regards,
    Craig
  • ABeech007ABeech007 New England, USPosts: 30MI6 Agent
    ABeech007 wrote:
    The details are all wrong (collar, vents, no ticket pocket), but I'm betting the material in this suit from Banana Republic is similar to the Bolivia Arrival Suit.

    http://bananarepublic.gap.com/browse/product.do?cid=5376&vid=1&pid=672267

    Notice from the pictures how the suit sometimes appears charcoal and sometimes appears more brown.


    I should clarify: I am betting that the texture and color of the Banana Republic suit are similar to that of the Bolivia suit. Obviously Tom Ford's cashmere/mohair blend is going to be of a far superior quality to Banana Republic's wool. At least, it had better be for nearly $10K!
  • toutbruntoutbrun Washington, USAPosts: 1,501MI6 Agent
    edited December 2009
    DBS wrote:
    toutbrun wrote:
    The suit that James Bond wears in the movie is called a Regency model and is finished in our exclusive cashmere/mohair fabrication. The suit retails for $9,670.

    Toutbrun,

    Out of curiosity, where is this quote from? I've seen little (if any) info from Tom Ford regarding the clothing they provided for "QoS." Man, if I had the money he had, I'd sink a little into a better website. What is it with clothing designers? - most of their sites are horribly set up, hard to navigate, and offer little or no information.

    Kind regards,
    Craig

    I called the Milan Store. And yeah, there is pretty much nothing on his website. I think he's trying to be this hard-to-get brand, super-exclusive where you need a rendez-vous to enter his store. No prices, no product information. There is some quality in their products, but they are made by Zegna (most of them if not everything, but I don't know the exact deal) and their sunglasses are made by Marcolin. The perfumes are by Estee Lauder (something like that).

    Sure, it is quality stuff, maybe top-quality stuff, but you could find better deals somewhere else and maybe even more quality at better price. Brioni's suits are $5,000.. and I thought those were the most expensive.

    About the texture, I must say that shiny-looking wool has nothing to do with the movie one. You can see on screencaps that the Bolivia suit really is "mat" and seems to have this cashmere effect. But of course, there has to be an alternative.

    You should get a good tailor, point out all the details of Tom Ford's house style (I don't know them all, we could do a list) and ask him with the information I gave you and screencaps what fabric we should use.

    Maybe Magnoli could change the Quantum suit a little and the fabric (!) on demand. Or get a tailor in your city, if you have a good one.

    EDIT: Oh, and don't think about ordering by phone at the Milan store if you're in Canada or USA. They wanted me to pay 100EUR to have ONE tie shipped in Canada. I can't imagine for a shirt.
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  • 00 Aussie00 Aussie Posts: 50MI6 Agent
    UpyJedi wrote:
    Yes! Got my suit last week. Perfect fit! Apart from the trousers which need shortening. That's my fault though cause I opted to play it safe in my measurements..... IMO the suit is great, but the grey is lacking that tint of brown that it appears to have in the film at certain times. It only took about 4weeks too! Oh, and you get a shirt and tie as well.:D

    Great, thanks for the info. Any chance of pictures, ideally of the suit and shirt/tie? I'm not surprised about the shortcomings of the fabric given the price, but its nice to hear you are happy with the product.

    I have bitten the bullet and ordered the BB CR suit (thread hijack I know, apologies), so its good to hear some feedback on BB.
  • RoikinsRoikins San Francisco, CAPosts: 121MI6 Agent
    Not mohair, but a brown/charcoal blended nailhead suit fabric known as "Dark Coffee" is available at mytailor.com.
  • toutbruntoutbrun Washington, USAPosts: 1,501MI6 Agent
    Roikins wrote:
    Not mohair, but a brown/charcoal blended nailhead suit fabric known as "Dark Coffee" is available at mytailor.com.

    Looks good.. the price looks like Magnoli's one. But we don't have the Magnoli detailed fabric picture, so we can't tell which one would be better.

    No one has the Magnoli Quantum suit?
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  • BLU8BLU8 Ontario, CanadaPosts: 418MI6 Agent
    toutbrun wrote:
    Roikins wrote:
    Not mohair, but a brown/charcoal blended nailhead suit fabric known as "Dark Coffee" is available at mytailor.com.

    Looks good.. the price looks like Magnoli's one. But we don't have the Magnoli detailed fabric picture, so we can't tell which one would be better.

    No one has the Magnoli Quantum suit?

    ExpatJB posted pictures of his Magnoli Quantum suit in this thread: http://www.ajb007.co.uk/topic/33075/a-question-about-the-fit-of-the-quantum-suit/
  • richi717richi717 Posts: 124MI6 Agent
    i have magnoli's quantum suit in brown along with the bolivia suit swatch. it is not the same fabric. color is slightly off as well.
  • toutbruntoutbrun Washington, USAPosts: 1,501MI6 Agent
    richi717 wrote:
    i have magnoli's quantum suit in brown along with the bolivia suit swatch. it is not the same fabric. color is slightly off as well.

    Wow! When you have a minute, would you mind taking a picture (macro mode, I guess) of the Magnoli's fabric?

    B-)
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  • richi717richi717 Posts: 124MI6 Agent
    edited December 2009
    let me know if the pics can be seen... the color is very close. if it was in the nail head pattern, i think it would be just right.


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