timothy dalton was the best!
dr. evan-gelist
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who thinks dalton was the best? argue with me please i dare u!
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You liked TD as Bond, good for you!
I did not like him.
That's life. -{
Welcome to AJB by the way...
Dalton - the weak and weepy Bond!
And I think that Craig's gun-barrel stance was like Dalton's stance.
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1. td stays awake in his films, rm falls asleep in avtak
2. td did most of his own stunts, rm clearly and i mean clearly had a stunt double
3. td was asked FOUR times to play jb
4. albert broccoli and michael g, wilson were saddened to lose td, rm retired through age
5. td read the jb books, rm did a carry on style bond
6. td got the missions done with ease. rm struggled for half of the film with the enemies
7. td looked like jb, rm looked like jb's dad
8. td never bedded a bond girl, rm bedded them all, even those young enough to be his
daughter ( i cringe at this)
9. td's bond didnt need a woman to show him how to drive, rm's bond did. FYEO
to be fair, roger did some of his best acting in the bond films but his acting range isnt great
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Very much so, didn't think I disagreed
I've never heard anybody call Tim Dalton arrogant - as Bond, and I do prefer the harder edged portrayal of Bond that both Dalton and Craig bring to the role.
Timothy Dalton never bedded a Bond Girl? How do you work that one out?
I don't recall him ever getting into bed with a girl. The aids scare was going on at that time, so the producers decided not to show any bed scenes....
Also, Roger Moore did not bed all his Bond girls....
"We're just too different... I mean, you're dead...." - Tim Burton's 'Corpse Bride'
its true, he might have flirted with some but never bedded any, and for that reason he cant be seen as a playboy like rm.
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How about Kara in the ferris wheel in Vienna, the lady on the boat in the PTS of LD. Pam Bouvier in the speedboat. Lupe Lamore? All sampled Dalton's Lovelength.
maybe but not on screen. due to the aids adverts at the time. fact.
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1. dalton spoke with a good english accent instead of his usual welsh one. brosnan still spoke
with his irish accent
2. dalton did his own stunts
3. brosnan asked dalton for his advice on how to play the character
4. goldeneye was written with dalton in mind, and brosnan looked uncomfortable in this film although it was the best one of his films
5. dalton was taller
6. brosnan suffered from the roger moore syndrome. ie he sometimes struggled to
beat his enemies
7. dalton resigned from the role, brosnan was more or less sacked because of his greed
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First Moore: Perhaps, however the audience (I) fell asleep in both of Dalton's films, particularly in TLD. :v
I'll give this one to you, although it doesn't concern me whether an actor does his own stunts. His job is to act; leave the stuntwork to the professionals.
Your point being? So Dalton was a better Bond than Moore because he was asked four times (more times than Moore?) to play Bond? That's absurd. In order to determine who was better, you need to measure who was better on screen, not who was asked to play Bond more times. That's like saying that a Bond was better because he was ...'s favourite Bond.
Again, irrelevant. They may have been heartbroken, but that doesn't mean that Dalton was better. Plus, if Moore had retired two,/four/six years earlier, you don't think they would have been saddened to have lost him?
This comes down entirely to whether or not one believes that the Bond films need to be faithful to the novels. I do not. Furthermore, I do not believe that Moore' style was carry on. He could be just as hard as anyone else. Witness the killings of Sandor and Stromberg in TSWLM, as just two examples. The Sandor killing, was IMO the most ruthless Bond killing of all time.
If that's true, why did it take Dalton an entire film to kill Sanchez and an entire film to accomplish his mission in TLD?
I'll simply choose to disagree with you on this one.
Didn't Connery speak with a Scottish accent? I admitt that I'm not the greatest at identifying accents, but Brosnan's accent didn't come across as too Irish to me.
As I mentioned in my Moore response, I don't have a problem with actors not doing their stunts. I do however have a problem with stuntpeople not doing stunts
Perhaps he did, which suggests that Brosnan respected Dalton's approach to the character. That however does not mean that Dalton was a better Bond as the only thing that matters is the end result. Viewers are also entitled to come to their own conclusion as to whom was the best, and Brosnan's asking Dalton for advice is as irrelevant as Dalton's being ...'s favourite Bond.
Well, that's subjective. I loved Brosnan's performance in GE, and I am extremely thankful that he was playing Bond, instead of Dalton. I also think that Brosnan should have been given the tux for both TLD and LTK, so my preferring Brosnan over Dalton in GE shouldn't be particularly surprising.
Not by much.
I don't agree. While I acknowledge that Moore and Brosnan weren't the toughest Bonds, I've never had a problem with their levels of toughness. Brosnan was also a very good fighter; the fight at the reception in TND was superb, while there was a couple of terrific fights (such as against Alec) in GE.
1. do u represent all the audience
2. dalton doing his own stunts shows how involved he was and he wanted professionalism
3. dalton being asked 4 times to play bond- my point being that they could c right the way back to when they first asked him to play bond in ohmss (dalton only in his 20's at the time), that he was right for the role.
4. i agree they wud have been saddened by moore if he left earlier
5. moore was physically weak as bond- witness him kicking loques car off the cliff in fyeo
6. dalton had to get sanchez's trust, and a film wudnt last long if you can easily overcome difficult tasks, not people like jaws
8. dalton, in the films, did not go to bed with any woman. fact. and my argument was that moore in the last few films looked like a sugar daddy
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1)I never said I did, which is why I put I into brackets. Plus, I wasn't all that serious.
2)It doesn't show how involved Dalton was or that he wanted professionalism. If he wanted professionalism, he should have left it to the professionals.
3)But it's still only the producers' opinion. Whether or not one thinks that Dalton was right for the role comes down to personal opinion. I don't, and the producers's love of him doesn't change my opinion.
5)But how does that represent physical weakness?
6)Jaws was difficult, and none of the films would have lasted long if Bond had overcame his task straight away.
7)But Dalton did go to bed. We didn't see it, but it was implied. Plus, even if you were correct that Dalton did not go to bed with any woman (which I don't believe), how is that any better than going to bed with every woman? Both are extremes.
3. brosnan asking for daltons advice suggests that he thought dalton was great, and moore visited the set of goldeneye and gave brosnan a nod of approval- kind of offensive and big headed in my view. and he probably never asked moore for his advice
5. fair comment
6. brosnan was physically easily beaten by renard, he pushed trevelyan off the dish in goldeneye cos he was distracted, graves foolishly put on a parachute by the broken side of the plane, near the right engine and didnt bail out straight away in die another day, but i agree he did easily kill carver in tnd cos carver was a weak bond enemy, as i stated to someone else
7. brosnan as an actual fact, asked for $10m to do another bond film. but as he has said, he didnt want the producers to think he was going to keep going on and on like moore did. so he said ill do it for a large amount, and it was the wrong move because they said goodbye, and got daniel craig. then brosnan did mamma mia..........
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all ill say is that we both disagree which i find fun and funny as this is only an opinion site, but u put up some good reasons.
thank you.
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3)But again, Brosnan's asking Dalton for advice doesn't mean that Dalton was better. It's like if Connery, IMO the greatest Bond, said that Craig was a great Bond. Well, I don't think he is, and Connery's saying that he is does not make him so in my eyes.
5)Thanks.
6)He wasn't that easily physically beaten by Renard, although if he wasn't at all, it wouldn't present Renard as a particularly impressive physical villain. I don't agree about Alec; it was a violent fight in which both men gave as good as they got. No, while I don't think that Brosnan was the physically strongest Bond, I don't think he was weak. In fact, I don't think any of them were.
7)Brosnan may have asked for $10 million, but to say that the producers sacked him out of greed can not be backed up by evidence.
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if u want to discuss any thing else, just tell me and ill argue or agree!
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1. dalton did one more film
2. lazenby was taken to one side and given some advice and told to shape up by telly savalas
3. daltons acting skills werent wooden like lazenbys
4. dalton had 20 years of acting exp. before he did bond. lazenby came straight to the role after doing a frys advert.
5. lazenby regrets doing only one film, dalton has never regretted resigning at all
6. he hardly ever attends bond functions, memorials, photo opportunities, premieres or conventions. dalton does
7. lazenbys gunbarrel intro was lame and shocking
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i did brosnans response
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1)I don't know what the relevance is in relation to number of films. Plus you're being inconsistent. Moore did five more films than Dalton and Brosnan did two more films, yet you regard Dalton to be a better Bond than both Moore and Brosnan. To me, it's about quality, not quantity. I think that Dalton would have been the worst ever Bond, whether he did one, two, four or seven films. As for Lazenby, the only things I like about him are his physicality and his handling of the final scene.
2)Yet again with receiving advice. Why is such a terrible thing to receive advice?
3)Dalton was a better actor than Lazenby, however IMO, his acting skills went out the window in his two Bond films. I consider his two performances to be the two worst lead Bond performances of all time
4)Experience only counts if you see it on the screen. When it came to Bond, I personally didn't.
5)But what does Lazenby's regret and Dalton's lack of regret have to do with how good Bonds they were?
6)Dalton is a great guy, but that doesn't mean he was a great Bond. Moore has also spoken highly of his time as Bond, yet you don't seem to a big fan of him.
7)It mightn't have been the best but I wouldn't call it 'lame' or 'shocking.' Personally, I didn't mind it.