Bond clothing archive

urhash · June 2009

I've been really thinking that the Bond community could really use an information archive...

Information about Bond clothing is scattered across hundreds of threads dating several years, as well as across the minds of various forum members here. It's a shame that there is no centralized source where a person can find out information about a specific suit or tie or shirt from one of the movies. People have pinned down the exact fabric type for certain suits, or discovered really obscure details (I don't think anyone knew the linen suit from TWINE was herringbone until about 8 months ago), and yet most of it has come for a brief moment in time and now exists in the ether somewhere, waiting possibly for someone to search it if they know the exact keyword parameters to dig it up.

I envision something like an open-community wiki where knowledgeable members could 'edit in' all the details they know. Collectively, we could fill a vast archive of info. If not a wiki, then at least a website blog of sorts that can be broken down into categories and updated with relative ease.

EDIT: Here's what's in the works so far: http://bondwardrobe.blogspot.com/

Nightshooter · June 2009

http://www.jamesbondlifestyle.com/

It could be done there

Head of Section · June 2009

I love this idea! It's true, we find out things here and there about different outfits, etc. It would be awesome to pool all the info that's been collected into one place.

ABeech007 · June 2009

I was thinking something very similar! I was thinking something in spreadsheet form. For any given film, the left axis would list every scene in which we see Bond. The top axis would have the following categories: suit, shirt, undershirt, pants, shoes, tie, etc... The spreadsheet would list basic information: color/brand/material. Then, one could click on the article of clothing to reach a wiki-style page with further details on the item, including where to buy, prices, and alternatives.

kamikaze4 · June 2009

do it do it do it!

I've been dying for something like this!

redsleighdown · June 2009

EDIT: I found something better. Would you guys be interested in me creating something like this (layout wise)? http://www.imfdb.org/index.php/Main_Page I'm creating a navigation web now. What would you all want for a domain name? I was thinking something like jbca.com (jamesbond clothing archives) but thats already taken.

urhash · June 2009

Looks good. Who would pay for the domain tho?

Roikins · June 2009

The link is old, so the Excel spreadsheet is not working, but you could contact the OP of this thread to see if he will with some info.

I mentioned a few months ago that I was creating a chart of information regarding James Bond's clothing. Well, I have just about completed it. It describes each article of clothing Bond wears throughout all 21 films. I got as much information that I could from watching the movies, taking screen shots, reading books, and reading this forum. It lists each outfit by film, categorised by formal wear, suits, sport coats, casual wear, etc. I tried to describe each article in as much detail, from cuff buttons to style of vents to trouser cuffs and pleats to the shoes and socks.

urhash · June 2009

I did some experimenting today with the blog approach, and this was the result.

http://bondwardrobe.blogspot.com/

Is this something you guys would want to see pursued further? For Craig-era material, something well out of my expertise I imagine I would give others (Monza, Mantis, Asp9mm, etc) admin access to post and edit information on that, should they be interested in contributing. People could also leave comments on the relevant posting, which can then be reviewed and incorporated into the brief.

But this would be more or less my general idea. Details wherever possible, with fabric swatches or pics as a visual guide.

redsleighdown · June 2009

Great start. Here is the flow I worked on earlier as far as organization:

Movies
CR
Nassau Arrival
Bamahas Poker
Casino Royale
QoS
Haiti
Opera Tosca
Villa Le Torre
TND
Hamburg
TWINE
Bilbao
DAD
GE

Clothing
Suit
Shirt
Tie
Cufflink
Watch
Shoes
Pants
Jacket
Sunglasses

Actor
Bond
Craig
Brosnan
Connery
Bond Girls
Villian

Brand
Tom Ford
T&A
Ted Baker
Armani
Alfani
Omega
ST Dupont
Converse
Nike
John Lobb
Y-3
Persol
Sunspel
Brioni

Replicas
Magnoli
Other On A Budget pieces

Anyway, this is not even close to a complete list so please don't post "you forgot this" (yet at least), but it should give you an idea of possible categories.

urhash · June 2009

Updated with more entries.

redsleighdown · June 2009

Nice, lookin great,

j.blades · June 2009

in time this will become a very intricit bond manual, cant wait. maybe you can have a secion for literary clothes. -{

kamikaze4 · June 2009

I really like this idea. But SIMPLICITY is the key to WHY I think this a great idea. James bond lifestyle is great for its own reasons, but I think what we are talking about here is a nuts and bolts approach to jimmy bond clothing. I'm think spreadsheet only. No pictures. No fluff. No long posts or comments. SIMPLICITY!

Also, it would be nice if there was a category for grooming. For example, if someone finds out what cologne Daniel Craig wears in real life or facial cream etc, than we can include that section on the spreadsheet too.

If this idea snowballs into just another james bond collecting nonsense website with photos, dead links, and a for profit endeavor. I am not in support of the idea. All corporations start out with noble intentions, and then one day they are like everyone else. Lets keep this idea (a non-for-profit) idea. Very clean website. Not a lot of static.

Mister White · June 2009

I like the idea.

Best indeed to keep it plain and simple.

Almost so that you could print it out and keep it in your backpocket when you go shopping. Just in case you run in to something...

Perhaps Mantis could be convinced to give us a rundown of what's in his cupboard. That would get the list two-thirds done already....

redsleighdown · June 2009

kamikaze4 wrote:

I really like this idea. But SIMPLICITY is the key to WHY I think this a great idea. James bond lifestyle is great for its own reasons, but I think what we are talking about here is a nuts and bolts approach to jimmy bond clothing. I'm think spreadsheet only. No pictures. No fluff. No long posts or comments. SIMPLICITY!

Also, it would be nice if there was a category for grooming. For example, if someone finds out what cologne Daniel Craig wears in real life or facial cream etc, than we can include that section on the spreadsheet too.

If this idea snowballs into just another james bond collecting nonsense website with photos, dead links, and a for profit endeavor. I am not in support of the idea. All corporations start out with noble intentions, and then one day they are like everyone else. Lets keep this idea (a non-for-profit) idea. Very clean website. Not a lot of static.

Yes, this is all very important. I would like to talk to remmert to make sure we would not be stepping on any toes for the bondlifestyle site because I truly love the site and it is super helpful.

As far as just a spreadsheet? I think that may be overkill. Pictures are our best friends when finding props, dimensions, materials, etc so I think some pictures of actual items or screen captures should be permitted. However, they will be regulated, as with the information on the site to ensure accuracy.

The things I would probably like to stay away from are prices, replicas, and discussions. Prices vary so much and there are so many places to get things, that I thing the best sources are google, ebay, ajb, and bondlifestyle. We don't need another site to add to that list. As far as replicas and discussions, thats why we are here on ajb. This site will be a helpful add-on, not a replacement.

And as far as profit, I have been kicking around the idea of personally make a site like this for a while. Therefore I may be willing to from the costs for domain and upkeep. If anyone would LIKE to pitch in, great, but I would never demand it.

The Bond Experience · June 2009

Whatever form it takes I would be happy to assist in the realm of info! :007)

j.blades · June 2009

so far so good, whats next? i am really enjoying this new bond archive.

urhash · June 2009

Thanks.

Not sure where to take it at the moment, as we seem to be at an impasse as to the direction of where to take this.

I agree with redsleigh - without pictures the value of an archive site would be greatly diminished. I would want more than just a shopping list. This site should also be useful to people who want to get an idea for Bond's style (what type of cufflinks does he wear? What type of tie patterns?), as well as those who may want to take the information and have it replicated by their tailor or whatever. I would like to see it be a multifaceted resource - not solely just for collectors who want to purchase a specific item. To just have a laundry list of brand names - what good does it do to know that the cufflinks in TND were 'AD2000' if they're completely out of print?

Head of Section · June 2009

Just for the record, I would be happy to host the chart/spreadsheet on my website. Although I have no idea how to make it 'interactive' in a way that other's could post. I could set up a chart and people could send me the pertinent info and I could drop it in.

Just a thought.

j.blades · June 2009

urhash,

just wondering when will you be updating your site?, and also what are you thinking of adding? -{

urhash · June 2009

I'll be adding more over the course of the next few days. Most of it will be in the realm of the Brosnan era, which is sort of my area of interest. Any Craig experts out there who want to contribute, let me know...

redsleighdown · June 2009

Head of Section wrote:

Just for the record, I would be happy to host the chart/spreadsheet on my website. Although I have no idea how to make it 'interactive' in a way that other's could post. I could set up a chart and people could send me the pertinent info and I could drop it in.

Just a thought.

Thanks Joe! I may be in contact. Eventually I would like my own domain with the "public editing" system mentioned earlier, but for the time being I may take you up on that. I appreciate the offer.

urhash wrote:

I'll be adding more over the course of the next few days. Most of it will be in the realm of the Brosnan era, which is sort of my area of interest. Any Craig experts out there who want to contribute, let me know...

Craig expert reporting. That's why I am actually glad you are a Brosnan era fan, the area I have little knowledge in.

Head of Section · June 2009

All -

I worked up a fast and very rough version of what I think we're all picturing, just to see if we're all on the same page. I did this in ab out 20 minutes, so PLEASE don't check my work for accuracy. 8-)

Let me know what you think.

http://www.beingjamesbond.com/archive.html

Oracabessa · June 2009

Head of Section wrote:

All -

I worked up a fast and very rough version of what I think we're all picturing, just to see if we're all on the same page. I did this in ab out 20 minutes, so PLEASE don't check my work for accuracy. 8-)

Let me know what you think.

http://www.beingjamesbond.com/archive.html

That looks great. I like the format: having an image from the scene and then a chart for each item.
The format makes for a quick and easy reference guide. Only 20 minutes, huh? That's pretty impressive. Thanks for putting this together!

Monza860 · June 2009

I'm glad someone finally decided to do this, I would be happy to offer any info or pics for this site.

Indiana_Bond · June 2009

Hi all. This is my first post. I've been lirking around these parts for quite a (fair) while, and the Bond Clothing forum is the part I've lurked around the most.

Urhash, I like what you've done with the blog. Just one thing on the GE Tank chase suit, if I may? After studying screen captures incessantly (obsessive, I know, but I'm hoping to get a replica made of it in the future:)), I'm pretty certain that the right-side ticket pocket does indeed have a flap.

Another thing, this suit has been worn by Brosnan in some promo pictures (such as this one: http://bztv.typepad.com/moviessquared/images/goldeneye.jpg) with a matching vest. Does anyone have any pictures prominently featuring the vest. Such as how many buttons it has and the like?

j.blades · June 2009

very good.

urhash · June 2009

Hrrm that's odd - I was going by the Madame Tussaud's outfit which didn't have a ticket pocket. Either that or they pushed the flap inside? Good catch tho.

Here's one of the wax figure shots: http://image30.webshots.com/31/4/17/44/262141744dfcwrh_fs.jpg

redsleighdown · June 2009

Urhash, I'm not sure on the accuracy of Madame Tussaud's Brosnan suit, but in the past, I have noticed inaccuracy's with other figures. Esp the new craig in tux.

Indy Bond, if you are the same Indy Bond from COW, good to see you here. I have worked with this guy before on screen accuracy quests over on the Indy forums and can vouch good things. If not, welcome anyway! Thanks for the pointers.

Mr Darlington, the site add-on looks great! The one thing I'd like to eventually add is more pics of individual items, as well as cross-reference links. That is to say that if someone clicked on "shoes" they could see a straight list of all bond shoes, as well as organized by actor, brand, film, etc.

urhash · June 2009

Ahh okay. The suit definitely looks like a Brioni from the lapels, but perhaps Tussaud's aren't sticklers on getting the exact same suit specs. I'll flip through the DVD tonight to confirm everything.

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