How do you clean an Omega strap?

OpitasOpitas London, EnglandPosts: 11MI6 Agent
I've had my TND model Omega for a while now and I notice that the strap has a bit of dark fluff and stuff in between some of the links. Do any of you fellow owners have any good tips for cleaning the strap without scratching it up or tarnishing it?
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  • minigeffminigeff EnglandPosts: 7,884MI6 Agent
    yep, simple, get it serviced. :))

    apparently the seamaster professional needs a service every 5 years to replace dried oils and parts. imo, do it, its worth it.
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  • OpitasOpitas London, EnglandPosts: 11MI6 Agent
    Are you speaking from experience, minigeff? Isn't servicing well-expensive?
  • minigeffminigeff EnglandPosts: 7,884MI6 Agent
    if you can afford the watch, you should be able to afford the servicing :p unless like me, you blew your very first pay cheque on one, in which case, save up for the service.

    i've been quoted between £210 and 4-8 weeks and £135 and 4 weeks max. i also have a friend of a friend who's getting it alot cheaper for me in a few weeks.

    mine hasn't been serviced yet, but its overdue and my seamy's started to loose time slightly.

    from what i've been told, the service should renew your watch to original condition, and it does.

    now i'm no major horologist here, but take it from me, watches are not simple things. when it comes to something as delicate and gorgeous as the omega seamaster, its worth every penny to get it serviced by omega themselves. it keeps the warrenty in check, your watch comes back gleaming and looking new, and it keeps perfect time for the next 5 year at least.

    if you attempt to get it done by anyone else, i'd assume it'd be a risky business.

    one thing that does spring to mind though is you don't say whether your seamy is a quartz or the professional model.

    i'd assume the quartz would be a cheaper service as the professional is a self winder chronometer with a more complex movement.

    hope my rambling helps. -{

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  • YouknowthenameYouknowthename Carver Media GroupPosts: 501MI6 Agent
    When the battery in my Seamaster was replaced they slightly cleaned the watch too. The best way for a total clean-up is indeed to get it serviced. Some dealers might do it themselves; if you can't find one that will the only option left is to have your watch sent back to its Heimat.
  • OpitasOpitas London, EnglandPosts: 11MI6 Agent
    Thanks for the info, MG and Youknowthename. It's a self-winder. There's been a little voice in the back of my mind for a while now saying "service it, service it", but my wallet has tried to drown it out. I've had the watch for about five years and have only worn it on special occasions, but I guess a service is still in order. Although, I'm a little hesitant about handing it in to a dealer after a very posh one on Regent Street put a little chink in the side of the bracelet while mis-hammering one of the pins out.
  • YouknowthenameYouknowthename Carver Media GroupPosts: 501MI6 Agent
    Opitas wrote:
    Thanks for the info, MG and Youknowthename. It's a self-winder. There's been a little voice in the back of my mind for a while now saying "service it, service it", but my wallet has tried to drown it out. I've had the watch for about five years and have only worn it on special occasions, but I guess a service is still in order. Although, I'm a little hesitant about handing it in to a dealer after a very posh one on Regent Street put a little chink in the side of the bracelet while mis-hammering one of the pins out.

    First: find another dealer :D / X-(
    Servicing will cost you a pretty penny, but a regularly serviced and well looked after Omega will last you a lifetime.
  • minigeffminigeff EnglandPosts: 7,884MI6 Agent
    i bought my seamy from a 'goldsmith's and plan to get it serviced at another major high street dealer. just FYI, the high street dealer i'll be dealing with doesn't actually service the watch, they send it over to omega in switzerland for its service.

    basically, when it comes to any expensive watch, get it serviced, when required, by the manufacturer themselves. don't risk taking it anywhere else.

    and for christ's sake, don't even think about

    a) servicing it yourself
    b) buying or getting it serviced from anyone on the internet

    like YouKnowTheName states, a well looked after omega will last you forever, so treat it to a service by omega themselves.
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  • OpitasOpitas London, EnglandPosts: 11MI6 Agent
    Don't worry, I would only trust Omega to do this. But I am worried about the potentially clumsy middle-man - the official Omega dealer. Would I have to give it to an official Omega dealer and trust them to package and send it off to Omega? Or do you think it would be better to find an official Omega dealer that would service it themselves? And how would you leave it with them - in its presentation box, which would risk the nice leather getting scuffed up, or without any packaging at all?
  • Monza860Monza860 USPosts: 501MI6 Agent
    I have only had my SMP for 1.5 years but I would also like to get it cleaned, I wear it everywhere, but obviously don't need servicing. What should I do?
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  • minigeffminigeff EnglandPosts: 7,884MI6 Agent
    @Opitas;

    i'll be taking my omega, in its oringial box, with all the cards, booklets etc that came with it. my local high street dealer will then send everything off to switzerland for the watch to get serviced.

    i've been told that when its there, it'll get total and utterly taken apart. all the gaskets and oils get replaced, broken or worn parts get replaced too (at a possible extra cost) and everything gets cleaned.

    the watch is then reassembled, and then tested to ensure it remains acturate. they do this by testing it over 1 week and check to see if it losses any time. i think from memory a chronometer is only allowed to loose 1 second in a week or something like that for it to be officially classed as a chronometer. then the warrenty cards are stamped, everything packaged back up and sent back to my local dealer.

    i'm using a local dealer as;

    - they are responsible for it after i hand it over. if it goes missing or gets damaged, its up to them to fix it.
    - they act as middle man, and so all i have to do it wait for it to come back. no chasing around and waiting for replies, i just leave it with them.
    - no worrying about butterfingers mr DHL to drop or loose my watch.

    @monza;

    if your omega isn't ready for its service, but you'd like it cleaned, i suggest taking it to your local dealer for exterior cleaning only. if you know a reputable horologist, go to them, but steer well clear of side street shops selling fossil watches etc.

    obviosuly, at 1.5 years old, your omega aint due for a while, so i wouldn't shell out for a full service just yet.


    as an after thought, if you want to clean your seamy yourself;

    DO NOT USE ANYTHING SOLVENT BASED

    ahem, sorry for the caps. but its very very important.

    omega even state that after using you seamy in salt water, you should wash it off in drinking water as even salt water can degrade gaskets and seals. imagine what solvents would do.

    if you wanna scrub it clean, i'd say use clean tap water, a few cotton buds and a few cocktail sticks to get in the fiddly bits.

    but if in doubt, don't do anyting and take it to someone who knows what they're doing.

    evenin,

    MG
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  • j.bladesj.blades Currently? You must be joking?Posts: 530MI6 Agent
    thanks for the golden info, minigeff. i will commit this to memory, good advice, from an experinced omega owner.
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  • The Bond ExperienceThe Bond Experience Newtown, PAPosts: 5,490Quartermasters
    On a well known Omega site quite a few in the know say take a shower with their watch once a week...that's it...and they swear by it.
  • urhashurhash USPosts: 986MI6 Agent
    edited July 2009
    Lol I just wear my Seamaster 24/7 - sleeping, shower, and anything else in my daily routine. Bond doesn't strike me as someone who would bother to take his off either (I'm always bemused with the fact that when Bond is bagging a chick in bed, the only thing he's always wearing is his watch). I've had no problems with it - 9 years and going strong! :)

    To clean off dirt on the clasp I use alcohol on a q-tip. For scuff marks on the clasp I use a 3M scouring pad and brush gently in one direction repeatedly (many people on Omega forums swear by this as an effective DIY remedy).
  • HigginsHiggins GermanyPosts: 16,619MI6 Agent
    edited July 2009
    OK, time for me to chime in :D

    There are lots of good advises though I am afraid, some of them make me worry.

    basics:
    Normally, watches and water don't go together very well. If a minimum amount of water gets inside of the watch, the movement and the dial / hands get seriously damaged. To prevent water leakage, waterresistant watches are using rubber seals. The gaskets are usually in the crown (often 2 or 3), the tubus, in the bottom and around the crystal (mostly not rubber, they are a special plastic).

    These rubber seals are doing their job only, when they are flexible and elastic and therefore, they are coated with a thin layer of silicone grease.
    If the silicone grease is being washed off, the rubber ages very fast and does not keep its elaticity to keep the watch waterresistant.

    This is a short summary, in real life, things are a bit more complicated, there are more factors, which influence the waterresistance.

    So, why do I mention this, as the topic is about cleaning a bracelet:

    The best way to clean a metal bracelet is to clean in in an ultrasonic cleaner. Most watchmakers and jewellery stores have one, some low-power models can be found for home use for around 20-50 US$.

    The problem with these cleaners is, that one should clean the bracelet only. I have seen shop ladies, who threw complete watches into the ultrasonic fluid - something, which I can't really recommend!

    So, it is important, that the bracelet is being removed from the watch before cleaning it.
    Then you can use the mentioned ultrasonic, you can also use a glass with a denture cleaning tablet.
    You can also use an old toothbrush plus warm water and some fluid soap, everything works fine.

    All mentioned methods will affect rubber seals in a bad way, so, taking off the bracelets is the key or find another method to prevent that alcohol/soap or other harmful fluids get in touch with the gaskets and wash the silicone coating off!

    I honestly don't recommend taking any waterresistant watch into the shower (as most of the people are using kind of soap, which washes off the silicone grease on the gaskets), though I am aware, that for some people, this works well for years, but for some people it does not.

    Even well-maintained rubber seals don't last forever, so, you should check the waterresistance of your watch regularly and replace the gaskets regularly.

    The outer cleaning should be done as often as possible, service of the mechanical movements should be done every 5 years or so, regardless, if it's being worn 24/7 or only once in that time.

    hope, that this was not too boring, any questions left, I am trying to reply.
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  • HigginsHiggins GermanyPosts: 16,619MI6 Agent
    Some more info:

    Mechanical Chronometer watches have an accuracy of <6 seconds/a DAY (again for nitpickers: It's a bit more complicated as the chronometer measures depend on the diameter of the movement, certain positions and temperatures, so the <6 second info is a simple guideline).
    Most of them are better, especially when the oils are fresh.
    So even a chronometer may win 40 seconds in a week.

    A quartz watch usually has an accuracy of < 5 seconds/MONTH.

    For a service of your watch, the watch store only needs your watch, the box and paperwork is not recquired.
    If a watchmaker is well-trained and gets the spare parts (which is getting more and more rare in these days) there is nothing against him doing it in his workshop.

    Infact many of the bigger companies send their watches to the national service centers of the manufacturer (in this case Omega UK). They are usually not shipped out to Switzerland for such a thing.
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  • danjaq_0ffdanjaq_0ff The SwampsPosts: 7,283MI6 Agent
    I cleaned my strap with hand soap and a sonic toothbrush, brings it up nice brush tastes a bit dodgy after though :D
  • HigginsHiggins GermanyPosts: 16,619MI6 Agent
    danjaq_0ff wrote:
    I cleaned my strap with hand soap and a sonic toothbrush, brings it up nice brush tastes a bit dodgy after though :D

    :D that:
    Bondtoys wrote:
    You can also use an old toothbrush plus warm water and some fluid soap, everything works fine.

    has been written with a good reason...
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  • zig zagzig zag EnglandPosts: 244MI6 Agent
    I dont have an omega,but the instructions with my rolex says,warm soapy water on the strap will clean it up nicely and remove grit,dirt,skin and any other muck thats get in there.
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  • Asp9mmAsp9mm Over the Hills and Far Away.Posts: 7,535MI6 Agent
    Warm soapy washing up liquid and toothbrush is the best way. Pains me to say it but..... Bondtoys is right :#
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  • HigginsHiggins GermanyPosts: 16,619MI6 Agent
    edited July 2009
    :)) :D -{


    ..... As always, mate

    you should buy a dog - by the way. :p
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  • OpitasOpitas London, EnglandPosts: 11MI6 Agent
    Wouldn´t a toothbrush risk scratching the bracelet? The clasp seems to pick up minute scratches just wearing it under a shirt. So would soft bristles be the way to go?
  • HigginsHiggins GermanyPosts: 16,619MI6 Agent
    No worries about the toothbrush. Scratches are being caused by other things (tables, door handles, walls, etc)

    To remove scratches, the mentioned 3M sanding cloth is perfect!

    As much as I hate to disagree with Asp9mm and his eternal wisdom: Ultrasonic is better than the brush as with the Ultrasonic, inner parts of the bracelet links (such as the famous pin and barrells) are cleaned - a toothbrush can't reach there
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  • Asp9mmAsp9mm Over the Hills and Far Away.Posts: 7,535MI6 Agent
    Bondtoys wrote:
    As much as I hate to disagree with Asp9mm and his eternal wisdom: Ultrasonic is better than the brush as with the Ultrasonic, inner parts of the bracelet links (such as the famous pin and barrells) are cleaned - a toothbrush can't reach there

    And of course, everyones got an ultrasonic hanging about the house 8-)
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  • HigginsHiggins GermanyPosts: 16,619MI6 Agent
    ... Well as you are not having an "old" toothbrush because of using yours now for a good decade, both ways may be difficult for you. :p

    And we have been talking about the best way and not the best accessible way... ;)
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  • Donald GrantDonald Grant U.S.A.Posts: 2,251Quartermasters
    edited July 2009
    I use lukewarm water to wash mine and an occasional soft toothebrush. I used to wear a piece of scotch tape on the clasp to keep the brushed finish from getting scratched. When new it came with a piece of blue film over the clasp to protect it. The scotch tape mimicked the blue film. I don't bother anymore, but for a while I used to get questions every now and again. Just a watch nut I guess.

    DG
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  • 00-Agent00-Agent CaliforniaPosts: 453MI6 Agent
    Opitas wrote:
    Wouldn´t a toothbrush risk scratching the bracelet? The clasp seems to pick up minute scratches just wearing it under a shirt. So would soft bristles be the way to go?
    I purchased a soft baby tooth brush made for toddlers at the grocery store. I dont see any noticeable scracthing after I clean mine.
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  • HigginsHiggins GermanyPosts: 16,619MI6 Agent
    I use lukewarm water to wash mine and an occasional soft toothebrush. I used to wear a piece of scotch tape on the clasp to keep the brushed finish from getting scratched. When new it came with a piece of blue film over the clasp to protect it. The scotch tape mimicked the blue film. I don't bother anymore, but for a while I used to get questions every now and again. Just a watch nut I guess.

    DG

    DG, and now you will tell me, that the colour of the Omega clasp is NOT blue :o



    :D I find it very interesting, that people are more concerned to scratch their watch than scratching their teeth.

    Seriously guys, the toothbrush does not scratch, unless you are using sand with it...
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  • barracudabarracuda CataloniaPosts: 97MI6 Agent
    I was told a few years ago not to wear my watch in the shower as hot water can degrade the rubber seals in the watch.

    However, before that I used to wear it in the shower (I can confirm it cleans up nicely) and the sauna, as well as diving with it regularly with no ill effects. In fact the complete reverse - my dive computer packed up on a dive and so I had to resort to my watch instead :)
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  • Donald GrantDonald Grant U.S.A.Posts: 2,251Quartermasters
    barracuda wrote:
    I was told a few years ago not to wear my watch in the shower as hot water can degrade the rubber seals in the watch.

    However, before that I used to wear it in the shower (I can confirm it cleans up nicely) and the sauna, as well as diving with it regularly with no ill effects. In fact the complete reverse - my dive computer packed up on a dive and so I had to resort to my watch instead :)

    Yep, heard that too. I don't, for the most part, wear my watches in the shower. However, I don't think an occasional shower will hurt it. The caution about the seals always made me wonder about snorkeling in warm tropical waters though. To me a dive watch should be a utilitarian object without restrictions.

    DG
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  • urhashurhash USPosts: 986MI6 Agent
    I've read about the seals and such, but to me that's like saying you shouldn't drive a fancy car in the snow because it'll get salt corrosion. It certainly can - but if you can't put it through its paces how utilitarian is it? Like Fleming, I imagine Bond being someone who just wears something until it falls apart and either repairs or replaces it. That being said, I totally understand the logic behind taking extra care and exercising caution with a $1300+ watch.
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