Obviously there are certain stunts that require a professional stunt man, which Dalton would not have been allowed to do, but he would always insist on doing the less dangerous ones himself, unlike Brosnan who did none of his own stunts and Moore who couldn't even climb down a ladder with a dummy on his back in AVTAK, albeit he was quite old by then.
You know, it is one thing to criticise Moore's and Brosnan's Bonds, but to attack them because they didn't do stunts is IMO crossing the line. Yes, Dalton may have done some stunts, and Brosnan may not have. It means nothing. Are you suggesting that Brosnan was a coward or something? As for Moore's not climbing down the ladder with the dummy, the last time I checked, he's an actor, not a stuntman. Say whatever you want about the quality (or otherwise) of the various Bonds, but this whole 'X did stunts and Y didn't do any stunts' thing is insulting and completely ridiculous! X-(
"He’s a man way out there in the blue, riding on a smile and a shoeshine. And when they start not smiling back—that’s an earthquake. and then you get yourself a couple of spots on your hat, and you’re finished. Nobody dast blame this man. A salesman is got to dream, boy. It comes with the territory." Death of a Salesman
regarding documentaries: I am always fascinated about the quantum of lies, which are told there:
"This has been far my best production, that I have been on. My co-Star (insert name and gender) is the funniest and nicest person to work with. I admire his/her professionalism and we are best friends. The director has such a passion and skill, which I have never experienced before. I could do my own lines and my own stunts and I am so grateful, that the producers gave me the opportunity to give my part to the movie."
Now Dan Same: Your turn to "translate" all this
) I don't think you need me to translate at all. It seems pretty obvious what the actor is really saying. ) It's funny as it's similar to sportsmen; they talk in cliche so much that it's refreshing when one is actually honest and says what he really thinks.
"He’s a man way out there in the blue, riding on a smile and a shoeshine. And when they start not smiling back—that’s an earthquake. and then you get yourself a couple of spots on your hat, and you’re finished. Nobody dast blame this man. A salesman is got to dream, boy. It comes with the territory." Death of a Salesman
You know, it is one thing to criticise Moore's and Brosnan's Bonds, but to attack them because they didn't do stunts is IMO crossing the line. Yes, Dalton may have done some stunts, and Brosnan may not have. It means nothing. Are you suggesting that Brosnan was a coward or something? As for Moore's not climbing down the ladder with the dummy, the last time I checked, he's an actor, not a stuntman. Say whatever you want about the quality (or otherwise) of the various Bonds, but this whole 'X did stunts and Y didn't do any stunts' thing is insulting and completely ridiculous! X-(
...may I add the story with the stunt guys, who jumped the Eiffel Tower 1 day too early and almost ruined the permission to get the scene done there.
I as a producer would be very pissed, if my main actor insisted in "enthusiasm" to do stunts, which are not meant for him.
It may be fun for the individual, it is simply unprofessional and irresponsable for the entire production and the bunch of people, who are working on such a huge project.
President of the 'Misty Eyes Club'.
Dalton - the weak and weepy Bond!
I dont think many people would have complained if Dalton got injured in the stunts that he did. Brosnan was there waiting in the shadows.
They can't just rush in an actor after filming has started, not without incurring a considerable cost. That's not even mentioning the human cost of Dalton getting seriously injured.
"He’s a man way out there in the blue, riding on a smile and a shoeshine. And when they start not smiling back—that’s an earthquake. and then you get yourself a couple of spots on your hat, and you’re finished. Nobody dast blame this man. A salesman is got to dream, boy. It comes with the territory." Death of a Salesman
It would have been a total travesty if Dalton had only done one film like Lazenby did.
We have a completely different view of what constitutes a 'travesty.' :v )
"He’s a man way out there in the blue, riding on a smile and a shoeshine. And when they start not smiling back—that’s an earthquake. and then you get yourself a couple of spots on your hat, and you’re finished. Nobody dast blame this man. A salesman is got to dream, boy. It comes with the territory." Death of a Salesman
Am i right in saying you thought Dalton was not as good as Moore. Or as i put it, worse than Sir Roger?
Absolutely. Sir Roger remains my third favourite Bond, just behind Connery and Brosnan. Dalton is my least favourite Bond by a long, long way.
My list is as follows:
1)Connery
2)Brosnan
3)Moore
4)Lazenby
5)Craig
6)Dalton
"He’s a man way out there in the blue, riding on a smile and a shoeshine. And when they start not smiling back—that’s an earthquake. and then you get yourself a couple of spots on your hat, and you’re finished. Nobody dast blame this man. A salesman is got to dream, boy. It comes with the territory." Death of a Salesman
Yep. I don't particularly like Lazenby, other than his handling of the final scene, and his physicality, and after CR, he was fourth on my list, behind Craig. However, after QOS (my least favourite Bond film), Craig dropped down to fourth and Lazenby went up to third. If Craig had only ever made CR, he would remain my fourth favourite Bond (with Lazenby in fifth spot), however I hated Craig in QOS, and so he dropped down a spot.
"He’s a man way out there in the blue, riding on a smile and a shoeshine. And when they start not smiling back—that’s an earthquake. and then you get yourself a couple of spots on your hat, and you’re finished. Nobody dast blame this man. A salesman is got to dream, boy. It comes with the territory." Death of a Salesman
You know, it is one thing to criticise Moore's and Brosnan's Bonds, but to attack them because they didn't do stunts is IMO crossing the line. Yes, Dalton may have done some stunts, and Brosnan may not have. It means nothing. Are you suggesting that Brosnan was a coward or something? As for Moore's not climbing down the ladder with the dummy, the last time I checked, he's an actor, not a stuntman. Say whatever you want about the quality (or otherwise) of the various Bonds, but this whole 'X did stunts and Y didn't do any stunts' thing is insulting and completely ridiculous! X-(
...may I add the story with the stunt guys, who jumped the Eiffel Tower 1 day too early and almost ruined the permission to get the scene done there.
I as a producer would be very pissed, if my main actor insisted in "enthusiasm" to do stunts, which are not meant for him.
It may be fun for the individual, it is simply unprofessional and irresponsable for the entire production and the bunch of people, who are working on such a huge project.
And yet I have been able to refer to members of the TLD crew delighted at Dalton's eagerness to truly play the character. I'm sure they wouldn't have minded him leaving it to a stuntman, but they applauded him for wanting to do the stunts.
“Everything that irritates us about others can lead us to a better understanding of ourselves.” - Carl Jung
And yet I have been able to refer to members of the TLD crew delighted at Dalton's eagerness to truly play the character. I'm sure they wouldn't have minded him leaving it to a stuntman, but they applauded him for wanting to do the stunts.
No doubt, however they wouldn't have been happy if he had gotten injured. This also does NOT mean that Dalton was in any way, shape or form, a better Bond than either Moore or Brosnan merely because he did his own stunts.
"He’s a man way out there in the blue, riding on a smile and a shoeshine. And when they start not smiling back—that’s an earthquake. and then you get yourself a couple of spots on your hat, and you’re finished. Nobody dast blame this man. A salesman is got to dream, boy. It comes with the territory." Death of a Salesman
And yet I have been able to refer to members of the TLD crew delighted at Dalton's eagerness to truly play the character. I'm sure they wouldn't have minded him leaving it to a stuntman, but they applauded him for wanting to do the stunts.
No doubt, however they wouldn't have been happy if he had gotten injured. This also does NOT mean that Dalton was in any way, shape or form, a better Bond than either Moore or Brosnan merely because he did his own stunts.
Actually, Dalton doing his own stunts is only one of anumber of points I made, but the only one that has been contradicted in this thread.
“Everything that irritates us about others can lead us to a better understanding of ourselves.” - Carl Jung
And yet I have been able to refer to members of the TLD crew delighted at Dalton's eagerness to truly play the character. I'm sure they wouldn't have minded him leaving it to a stuntman, but they applauded him for wanting to do the stunts.
No doubt, however they wouldn't have been happy if he had gotten injured. This also does NOT mean that Dalton was in any way, shape or form, a better Bond than either Moore or Brosnan merely because he did his own stunts.
Actually, Dalton doing his own stunts is only one of anumber of points I made, but the only one that has been contradicted in this thread.
The reason is that you seem to think, or imply, that doing ones own stunts is a measurement of how good a Bond one was. There's nothing wrong with being a fan of Dalton's Bond; what is wrong is when you attack the Bonds in a personal way. I would argue that you're doing that when you say that, because Dalton did (some of) his own stunts, he was better than the other Bonds. For, in doing so, you're questioning the character of the other Bonds. That is, 'Brosnan didn't do his own stunts because he wasn't brave.' NONSENCE! Brosnan didn't do his own stunts because he's not a stuntman, and whether you think Dalton was better than Brosnan or not, is surely because of the Bond that he presents on screen (and his performances) and not because he does his own stunts.
This is an example of where you impugn Brosnan's character and attack Moore because of his age.
Obviously there are certain stunts that require a professional stunt man, which Dalton would not have been allowed to do, but he would always insist on doing the less dangerous ones himself, unlike Brosnan who did none of his own stunts and Moore who couldn't even climb down a ladder with a dummy on his back in AVTAK, albeit he was quite old by then.
"He’s a man way out there in the blue, riding on a smile and a shoeshine. And when they start not smiling back—that’s an earthquake. and then you get yourself a couple of spots on your hat, and you’re finished. Nobody dast blame this man. A salesman is got to dream, boy. It comes with the territory." Death of a Salesman
The reason is that you seem to think, or imply, that doing ones own stunts is a measurement of how good a Bond one was. There's nothing wrong with being a fan of Dalton's Bond; what is wrong is when you attack the Bonds in a personal way. I would argue that you're doing that when you say that, because Dalton did (some of) his own stunts, he was better than the other Bonds. For, in doing so, you're questioning the character of the other Bonds. That is, 'Brosnan didn't do his own stunts because he wasn't brave.' NONSENCE! Brosnan didn't do his own stunts because he's not a stuntman, and whether you think Dalton was better than Brosnan or not, is surely because of the Bond that he presents on screen (and his performances) and not because he does his own stunts.
I never said Brosnan wasn't brave, I was merely suggesting that Dalton deserves credit not only for being a fantastic actor, but also for his willingness to go beyond the call of duty in order to make his action scenes as real as possible, something both his successor and predecessor lacked. I'm hardly attacking actors in a personal way by pointing out blunt facts. Although I do believe Brosnan was a terrible Bond, this isn't because he didn't do his own stunts, it's because his acting is poor. And I thought Moore was quite a good Bond for 4 or 5 films.
Dalton, as I outlined earlier was in my opinion the best Bond for a number of reasons such as his ability to be genuinely serious and look prepared to kill someone, or his freely thinking nature.
“Everything that irritates us about others can lead us to a better understanding of ourselves.” - Carl Jung
But if you're not attacking Brosnan personally, why suggest that Dalton's doing stuntwork is a positive and contrast it to Brosnan? You're saying that Dalton went beyond 'the call of duty in order to make his action scenes as real as possible', unlike Brosnan and Moore, thereby implying what? That Brosnan wasn't as willing to make his scenes as real as possible? That he wasn't brave? Regardless of what you might mean, I don't see how you could bring up Dalton's doing stuntwork as a good thing, contrast it to Brosnan and not be attacking him personally. So I'll just say this. The fact that Dalton did (some of) his own stuntwork is IMO irrelevant and neither adds, nor takes away, from his Bond.
"He’s a man way out there in the blue, riding on a smile and a shoeshine. And when they start not smiling back—that’s an earthquake. and then you get yourself a couple of spots on your hat, and you’re finished. Nobody dast blame this man. A salesman is got to dream, boy. It comes with the territory." Death of a Salesman
Connery was considered almost complete
Moore was an entertaining Bond to some
Dalton was Bond in physical presence and by the book
Brosnan was the cool side of Bond
Craig is the muscular Bond
"You're in the wrong business... leave it to the professionals!"
James Bond- Licence To Kill
But if you're not attacking Brosnan personally, why suggest that Dalton's doing stuntwork is a positive and contrast it to Brosnan? You're saying that Dalton went beyond 'the call of duty in order to make his action scenes as real as possible', unlike Brosnan and Moore, thereby implying what? That Brosnan wasn't as willing to make his scenes as real as possible? That he wasn't brave? Regardless of what you might mean, I don't see how you could bring up Dalton's doing stuntwork as a good thing, contrast it to Brosnan and not be attacking him personally. So I'll just say this. The fact that Dalton did (some of) his own stuntwork is IMO irrelevant and neither adds, nor takes away, from his Bond.
It's quite simple. I didn't rate Brosnan's Bond. I do rate Dalton's Bond. In my opinion, Dalton was great and Brosnan was rubbish. In my opinion, a very small aspect of what makes a good Bond is their performance in action scenes, somewhat relevant to Bond films. This of course, can be affected by their willingness to perform certain stunts themselves rather than have another man do that for them. More to the point, it is also my opinion that Dalton is a fantastic actor and Brosnan is a very bad one. However, I have nothing against Pierce Brosnan the person, as I'm sure he is very friendly. Nonetheless, I see no reason why a perfectly honest opinion being offered solely on a site which revolves around opinions should be regarded as a personal attack.
“Everything that irritates us about others can lead us to a better understanding of ourselves.” - Carl Jung
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...may I add the story with the stunt guys, who jumped the Eiffel Tower 1 day too early and almost ruined the permission to get the scene done there.
I as a producer would be very pissed, if my main actor insisted in "enthusiasm" to do stunts, which are not meant for him.
It may be fun for the individual, it is simply unprofessional and irresponsable for the entire production and the bunch of people, who are working on such a huge project.
Dalton - the weak and weepy Bond!
James Bond- Licence To Kill
James Bond- Licence To Kill
James Bond- Licence To Kill
My list is as follows:
1)Connery
2)Brosnan
3)Moore
4)Lazenby
5)Craig
6)Dalton
James Bond- Licence To Kill
And yet I have been able to refer to members of the TLD crew delighted at Dalton's eagerness to truly play the character. I'm sure they wouldn't have minded him leaving it to a stuntman, but they applauded him for wanting to do the stunts.
Dalton - the weak and weepy Bond!
Actually, Dalton doing his own stunts is only one of anumber of points I made, but the only one that has been contradicted in this thread.
This is an example of where you impugn Brosnan's character and attack Moore because of his age.
I never said Brosnan wasn't brave, I was merely suggesting that Dalton deserves credit not only for being a fantastic actor, but also for his willingness to go beyond the call of duty in order to make his action scenes as real as possible, something both his successor and predecessor lacked. I'm hardly attacking actors in a personal way by pointing out blunt facts. Although I do believe Brosnan was a terrible Bond, this isn't because he didn't do his own stunts, it's because his acting is poor. And I thought Moore was quite a good Bond for 4 or 5 films.
Dalton, as I outlined earlier was in my opinion the best Bond for a number of reasons such as his ability to be genuinely serious and look prepared to kill someone, or his freely thinking nature.
Connery was considered almost complete
Moore was an entertaining Bond to some
Dalton was Bond in physical presence and by the book
Brosnan was the cool side of Bond
Craig is the muscular Bond
James Bond- Licence To Kill
It's quite simple. I didn't rate Brosnan's Bond. I do rate Dalton's Bond. In my opinion, Dalton was great and Brosnan was rubbish. In my opinion, a very small aspect of what makes a good Bond is their performance in action scenes, somewhat relevant to Bond films. This of course, can be affected by their willingness to perform certain stunts themselves rather than have another man do that for them. More to the point, it is also my opinion that Dalton is a fantastic actor and Brosnan is a very bad one. However, I have nothing against Pierce Brosnan the person, as I'm sure he is very friendly. Nonetheless, I see no reason why a perfectly honest opinion being offered solely on a site which revolves around opinions should be regarded as a personal attack.