Octopussy - The Kamal/Orlov agreement

Brosnan_fanBrosnan_fan Sydney, AustraliaPosts: 521MI6 Agent
Having just rewatched OP, I found a flaw in the bargain between these two villains. The agreement was Kamal would smuggle the Soviet bomb into West Germany under the cover of Octopussy's circus operation, and Orlov would pay Kamal the jewellery for his efforts - "The jewellery should net us approximately 300 million (Pounds? Dollars?) in Zurich."

Now, let's say the bomb had detonated as Orlov intended, and the Soviet Army was then free to march into and occupy all of Europe. A communist-ruled empire of such existence would definitely not accept any capitalist gain, especially of Kamal's magnitude, and one of its first orders of business would be to seize the holdings of the wealthy, and their big, fat Swiss bank accounts.

As such, Orlov's part of the agreement would be null and void, and Kamal would no doubt be left most unhappy.

Thoughts?
"Well, he certainly left with his tails between his legs."

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  • thesecretagentthesecretagent CornwallPosts: 2,151MI6 Agent
    I don't think Kamal planned on staying in Europe, or keeping his assets there either, and with Octopussy out of the way, surely he would have simply returned to India?

    To be honest I find the whole plot implausible and there are other ways to get a nuclear device either onto or near enough to a US base than having to use a travelling circus - which after travelling from east Germany would have had the most stringent of security checks...
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  • Dan SameDan Same Victoria, AustraliaPosts: 6,054MI6 Agent
    I agree with thesecretagent. The odds are Kamal would have made sure that his assets were safely out of harm's way. That said, although I love OP, I try not to examine its plot too closely. I think it's a terrificially entertaining film, but its plot isn't exactly watertight. ;)
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  • chrisno1chrisno1 LondonPosts: 3,599MI6 Agent
    At the risk of sounding like I really don't care about the plot of OP... well, I really don't care about the plot of OP.
    There is one, but quite what it is completely non-pluses me. Atomic bombs, Faberge eggs, circuses, smuggling operations, hotel chains, invasions of West Germany. It defies belief. I think there wasn't such a confusing 007 until TWINE.
  • LoeffelholzLoeffelholz The United States, With LovePosts: 8,998Quartermasters
    chrisno1 wrote:
    ...Atomic bombs, Faberge eggs, circuses, smuggling operations, hotel chains, invasions of West Germany. It defies belief. I think there wasn't such a confusing 007 until TWINE.

    Well...TLD tried ;)
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  • AlexAlex The Eastern SeaboardPosts: 2,694MI6 Agent
    Confusing? I won't argue :)

    Jaw dropping in it's far-fetched audacity? Absolutely.

    Watch it again to reiterate? That's up to you!
  • hegottheboothegottheboot USAPosts: 327MI6 Agent
    I tried to explain the plot to my roommates yesterday morning when they turned it on while flipping channels. All I got were blank expressions and I quote: "WTF?"-especially when whole scenes had been cut out of a TV airing.
    It took me at least 5 viewings as a kid to even remotely understand the whole plot-now I just let it go on each subsequent viewing. I do love the bomb idea and the Orlov/Bond dialogue though. Louis Jourdan is underused.
    Yay: A Bollywood Bond, Circus Bond, Cliche Bond, By the Numbers Bond, Broke the immortal "Never do two films" rule Bond, Confusing Bond, Tame Bond, and Tired Bond-all in one plus the first appearance of Clown 007! What more could you ask for?
    How the hell did this ever beat NSNA? They both have huge flaws!
  • Dan SameDan Same Victoria, AustraliaPosts: 6,054MI6 Agent
    edited October 2009
    Broke the immortal "Never do two films" rule Bond
    Which rule is that? ?:) Are you referring to directors? (John Glenn having previously directed FYEO.)
    How the hell did this ever beat NSNA? They both have huge flaws!
    Well yes, but I think that OP is an incredibly fun film, in spite of its flaws. NSNA, on the other hand, while it does have some good points, is a massive disappointment which IMO wasted Connery, who whilst still good (as he always is) was way past his prime.
    "He’s a man way out there in the blue, riding on a smile and a shoeshine. And when they start not smiling back—that’s an earthquake. and then you get yourself a couple of spots on your hat, and you’re finished. Nobody dast blame this man. A salesman is got to dream, boy. It comes with the territory." Death of a Salesman
  • LoeffelholzLoeffelholz The United States, With LovePosts: 8,998Quartermasters
    Guess nobody quoted that rule to Terence Young, Guy Hamilton and Lewis Gilbert ;)

    Still, I'd agree that Glen shouldn't have had as many shots as he got...!
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  • BarbelBarbel ScotlandPosts: 37,865Chief of Staff
    Dan Same wrote:
    Broke the immortal "Never do two films" rule Bond
    Which rule is that? ?:) Are you referring to directors? (John Glenn having previously directed FYEO.)

    Maud Adams?
  • AlexAlex The Eastern SeaboardPosts: 2,694MI6 Agent
    M, 'penny, and Q are immortal.
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