My Geoffrey Boothroyd Gun Books

Donald GrantDonald Grant U.S.A.Posts: 2,251Quartermasters
Thought I'd post a few pictures of the Geoffrey Boothroyd books in my Fleming and Bondiana collection. Thought it was a good time for this because of another thread currently refreshed and posted by AJB's gun guru 7289 regarding Bond's Colt Police Positive. Enjoy.

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DG
So, what sharp little eyes you've got...wait till you get to my teeth.
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"People sleep peacefully in their beds at night only because rough men stand ready to do violence on their behalf." Richard Grenier after George Orwell, Washington Times 1993.
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  • 72897289 Beau DesertPosts: 1,691MI6 Agent
    Boothroyd was a pretty good gun writer!

    Not as flamboyant as our US gunwriters, but technically very good. I have two copies of his book on handguns, it's a great reference work. My favorite part is about Ian Fleming, Bond and Boothroyd's "S&W special".... all great reading for the Bond fan.

    When I was a kid, I called Glasgow information and actually got Boothroyd's phone number. Sadly I never got up the courage to figure out the time differential and call him up. I would have asked alot of silly questions about Beretta's, Walther's and James Bond, but somehow I think he would have been patient and polite.
  • LoeffelholzLoeffelholz The United States, With LovePosts: 8,998Quartermasters
    Looks like I see the S & W 'Military & Police' .38... B-)
    Check out my Amazon author page! Mark Loeffelholz
    "I am not an entrant in the Shakespeare Stakes." - Ian Fleming
    "Screw 'em." - Daniel Craig, The Best James Bond EverTM
  • 00130013 Scotland ukPosts: 46MI6 Agent
    Are the books any good?
  • Asp9mmAsp9mm Over the Hills and Far Away.Posts: 7,535MI6 Agent
    0013 wrote:
    Are the books any good?

    If you are into firearms and Bond firearms, then it is a must have. The second edition of his Handgun tome was also where John Gardner got inspiration for the pistols he issued to Bond including the VP70, P7 and ASP.
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  • 72897289 Beau DesertPosts: 1,691MI6 Agent
    The books are excellent references I wore out my first copy of "The Handgun" and had to buy another.
  • 00130013 Scotland ukPosts: 46MI6 Agent
    7289 wrote:
    The books are excellent references I wore out my first copy of "The Handgun" and had to buy another.

    I don't think you could get a better reccomendation than that, 7289 ;)
  • 00130013 Scotland ukPosts: 46MI6 Agent
    Found a 1988 copy on ebay, just bought it.
  • Mark HazardMark Hazard West Midlands, UKPosts: 495MI6 Agent
    I had always intending asking Geoffey to autograph my copy of The Handgun, but left it too late. My first copy of Gun Collecting is a 1965 copy published by Arco, the second is a 1970 copy published by Bonanza - DG, who is the publisher of your Gun Collecting.
  • Donald GrantDonald Grant U.S.A.Posts: 2,251Quartermasters
    I had always intending asking Geoffey to autograph my copy of The Handgun, but left it too late. My first copy of Gun Collecting is a 1965 copy published by Arco, the second is a 1970 copy published by Bonanza - DG, who is the publisher of your Gun Collecting.

    My copy of Gun Collecting (the green book), is the 1987 revised copy of the 1961 original. The revision included the most comprehensive list of 19th century gunmakers and gunsmiths to be published at that time. Publisher was The Sportsman's Press, London. My copy of The Handgun was published in 1970 by Bonanza Books, a division or imprint of Crown Publishers, New York.

    DG
    So, what sharp little eyes you've got...wait till you get to my teeth.
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    "People sleep peacefully in their beds at night only because rough men stand ready to do violence on their behalf." Richard Grenier after George Orwell, Washington Times 1993.
  • scaramangasgoldengunscaramangasgoldengun ScotlandPosts: 1,388MI6 Agent
    since we are on the subject of Boothroyd,

    I always thought, as I live in Glasgow to try and track down where his old office was and go see it and have a look around if indeed it is still there ? and if its in its original state etc

    does anyone have any information as to where abouts in Glasgow his office was ?
  • Asp9mmAsp9mm Over the Hills and Far Away.Posts: 7,535MI6 Agent
    since we are on the subject of Boothroyd,

    I always thought, as I live in Glasgow to try and track down where his old office was and go see it and have a look around if indeed it is still there ? and if its in its original state etc

    does anyone have any information as to where abouts in Glasgow his office was ?

    I have copies of all the original correspondence he had with Fleming. I'll find them out as his address is on the letterhead.
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  • Mark HazardMark Hazard West Midlands, UKPosts: 495MI6 Agent
    since we are on the subject of Boothroyd,

    I always thought, as I live in Glasgow to try and track down where his old office was and go see it and have a look around if indeed it is still there ? and if its in its original state etc

    does anyone have any information as to where abouts in Glasgow his office was ?

    I understand that his daughter now runs the business.

    Mick - check your PMs.
  • scaramangasgoldengunscaramangasgoldengun ScotlandPosts: 1,388MI6 Agent
    ok a meeting with his daughter if possible and a visit to the business as it is now, may make a for a very nice article and tribute for my website and ajb007.co.uk

    Hi Mark Hazzard AKA Robbin :)) checked my PM's nothing at all .. please email me the address etc .. and I will make contact
  • Mark HazardMark Hazard West Midlands, UKPosts: 495MI6 Agent
    ok a meeting with his daughter if possible and a visit to the business as it is now, may make a for a very nice article and tribute for my website and ajb007.co.uk

    Hi Mark Hazzard AKA Robbin :)) checked my PM's nothing at all .. please email me the address etc .. and I will make contact

    Email sent, and PM re-sent - just to make sure.
  • 00130013 Scotland ukPosts: 46MI6 Agent
    scaramangasgoldengun,

    I live in Scotland too, I'm an Ayrshire boy, but I'm often in Glasgow.

    Whats the address?

    PM me if you like

    Cheers

    0013
  • 00130013 Scotland ukPosts: 46MI6 Agent
  • Donald GrantDonald Grant U.S.A.Posts: 2,251Quartermasters
    0013 wrote:

    Very nice!

    DG
    So, what sharp little eyes you've got...wait till you get to my teeth.
    image_zps6a725e59.jpg
    "People sleep peacefully in their beds at night only because rough men stand ready to do violence on their behalf." Richard Grenier after George Orwell, Washington Times 1993.
  • scaramangasgoldengunscaramangasgoldengun ScotlandPosts: 1,388MI6 Agent
    0013 let me know next time your in Glasgow and we could arrange a meeting, maybe go to the Bo'ness Motor Museum and have a look around the Bond exhibits and props etc

    let me know what you think. Cheers
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  • scaramangasgoldengunscaramangasgoldengun ScotlandPosts: 1,388MI6 Agent
    very cool photos indeed thanks for sharing ...

    looking at the first photo, I like the idea of Boothroyd advising
    Fleming to allow Bond to carry a 12 Bore under his dinner jacket ..... :)) :))

    And thanks for the address I will go visit it and take some pictures etc and
    include it in my article about him and his daughter etc if I set up a meeting
    soon and the whole Bond connection.

    can't beleive there is a nice strong Bond connection not far from where I live.

    should make for a Good article I hope
  • 72897289 Beau DesertPosts: 1,691MI6 Agent
    Love the pictures....

    BTW The revolver that IF is holding is Boothroyd's Ruger Super Blackhawk in .44 Magnum.
  • Mark HazardMark Hazard West Midlands, UKPosts: 495MI6 Agent
    Asp9mm wrote:
    since we are on the subject of Boothroyd,

    I always thought, as I live in Glasgow to try and track down where his old office was and go see it and have a look around if indeed it is still there ? and if its in its original state etc

    does anyone have any information as to where abouts in Glasgow his office was ?

    I have copies of all the original correspondence he had with Fleming. I'll find them out as his address is on the letterhead.

    When I first started corresponding with Geoffrey Boothroyd, he kindly sent me a photocopy of his "appointment" from Fleming.
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  • 00130013 Scotland ukPosts: 46MI6 Agent
    0013 let me know next time your in Glasgow and we could arrange a meeting, maybe go to the Bo'ness Motor Museum and have a look around the Bond exhibits and props etc

    let me know what you think. Cheers


    Very kind, man, very kind.
  • 00130013 Scotland ukPosts: 46MI6 Agent
    7289 wrote:
    0013,

    You'll love it!

    7289.

    Love is an understament. It is an excellent book, full of suprises. Very Nice ASP picture too, I might add, and some old favriotes, the Automag and the Wildey.

    I just got it yesterday, after a job interview, the Postman left me a pick up at depot slip because it was too big for the letterbox. I am very lucky I live across form the deopt, and got it. It was well packaged, heavy. I quickly tore open the brown paper, and there it was.

    I spent most of last night reading it. Wonderful.

    I'm in your debt, thanks for convincing me that it was a worthwhile purchase.Plus it can also be an aid when I'm writing my novel.
    My only tiny small gripe is that there was no Beretta 418 picture.

    That makes me think, do you think GB thought Bond was using the Beretta 950 jetfire? If anything ,That really is a ladies gun, with it's tip up barrel.

    There is also a picture on the dustjacket. Boothroyd in the 1980's holding a Mauser broomhandle.

    Anyone got any of Boothroyds other articles?

    Oh, the sports illustrated article is online. In case anyone didn't know.

    http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/vault/article/magazine/MAG1073622/index.htm

    Cheers

    0013
  • 72897289 Beau DesertPosts: 1,691MI6 Agent
    0013,

    As the Beretta 950 was introduced in 1950, it is possible Boothroyd thought that Bond was carrying this model and not the 418, however...

    The 950 has no "safety catch".

    You cannot work the 950 action and pump the "bullets" in the magazine onto the bed in a lonely hotel - the 950 has no mechanical extractor.

    The 950 uses wire springs to power the slide, if you remove the grip panels the wires are exposed. It would be impossible to wrap the grip with tape, this would render the pistol inoperative.

    So if Boothroyd had examined a 950 he would have quickly understoood that this pistol could not have been Bond's. Only the 418 and it's direct predecessors have all the features Fleming attributes to Bond's .25 Beretta.

    I agree that Boothroyd's book should have featured a picture of the 418 and identified it as the Bond pistol. But Bond was never the focus of the book. I do enjoy the story of his S&W K-200, and the description of the modifactions he made to it. Prephaps the 418 is rare in the UK, Fleming could not locate one for Chopping to paint for the cover of From Russia with Love, and so IF turned to Boothroyd for his S&W and it became part of Bond history!

    However where Boothroyd failed. I shall not ......

    The Bond Beretta,

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  • Asp9mmAsp9mm Over the Hills and Far Away.Posts: 7,535MI6 Agent
    I never tire of seeing your Beretta. Time you put up some more piccies methinks.
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  • 72897289 Beau DesertPosts: 1,691MI6 Agent
    Hey Asp9mm,

    Always nice to have you about!!!!

    Glad to post the pictures of my "baby", I have always loved the Beretta - it was after all Fleming's first choice for Bond, and if like me, you enjoy all those older Hitchcock spy films the Beretta is very typical of the 1930-50's "Spy Pistol".

    I'll try to post some newer photos. I recently "figured out" that oo7 would not have wrapped the butt of his Beretta with modern "nylon" electrical tape. He would have used old fashioned "friction tape". I was lucky and found a roll in an old toolbox that spent the last 50 years laying around in my garage. I immediately set out to replace the tape on my Beretta's handle ... so it is now "period correct"!
  • Asp9mmAsp9mm Over the Hills and Far Away.Posts: 7,535MI6 Agent
    I certainly look forward to that. How about starting a new thread dedicated to members Bond firearms pics. I think I might have a couple lying about that need photographing :D
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