Bond may be craigs last

superdaddysuperdaddy englandPosts: 917MI6 Agent
in Skyfall - Bond 23 (2012)
Does anyone else think that 23 may be DCs last outing.
I honestly dont know why but Ijust have this feeling that he will decide to quit the role after this one[hopefully] finish on a high kinda thing so as not to be like RM and SC who lets be honest stayed in the role to long or came back when really should not have.
Anyone else have any thoughts or feelings on this, Iwould love to read them.
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  • HowardBHowardB USAPosts: 2,755MI6 Agent
    I think he'll do a fourth and it wouldn't surprise me if he did a fifth. I don't think you can lump Craig in with Moore and Connery, too many generational and other differences. Moore was 46 already when he did LALD and Connery was bored with the role and disliked the direction the films had taken (not to mention the issues and resentments he has always had with feeling underpayed). Relative age and physical fitness is also a significant variable. 40 is the new 30, 50 is the new 40, etc, etc. Moore detested working out and the physicality the role demanded while Connery, who was a good natural athelete just wasn't motivated to make the physical sacrifices anymore to look good in the role. Connery also felt that the time spent on a Bond film took away from other opportunities to take on other roles. Craig on the other hand has been able to take advantage of the money and notoriety he has gained from Bond and parlayed it into his own production company and roles that he may not have been offered in the past. Craig also has what appears to be a different relationship with EON (particularly Barbara B.) which has led to other opportunities through EON (the broadway play "Hard Rain" is a good example) and appears to have a bit more input into the Bond films themselves.
  • Napoleon PluralNapoleon Plural LondonPosts: 10,467MI6 Agent
    Better opportunities he may have with EON, but they need to pull their finger out a bit, as there's every chance their directors don't fulfill their promise. Ironically the same happened with Brosnan's films away from Bond - Attenborough, Boorman, Tim Burton et al, but only McTiernon really delivered a solid flick, with The Thomas Crown Affair.
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  • LexiLexi LondonPosts: 3,000MI6 Agent
    I think Craig will stay as Bond as long as the scripts stay as good as they have - and it keeps moving in the direction where he has some say. I can see him doing at least one more, (after 23) and hopefully a fifth, but it all depends on what any other direction he wants to go....Bond has created a great spring board for him, to get funding for other more 'lesser stream' movies - he wasn't such a big pull to cinema's - but NOW, well, the sky is the limit!
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  • Number24Number24 NorwayPosts: 22,331MI6 Agent
    HowardB wrote:
    I think he'll do a fourth and it wouldn't surprise me if he did a fifth. I don't think you can lump Craig in with Moore and Connery, too many generational and other differences. Moore was 46 already when he did LALD and Connery was bored with the role and disliked the direction the films had taken (not to mention the issues and resentments he has always had with feeling underpayed). Relative age and physical fitness is also a significant variable. 40 is the new 30, 50 is the new 40, etc, etc. Moore detested working out and the physicality the role demanded while Connery, who was a good natural athelete just wasn't motivated to make the physical sacrifices anymore to look good in the role. .


    ... and 20 is the new 10 :))
  • LoeffelholzLoeffelholz The United States, With LovePosts: 8,998Quartermasters
    Number24 wrote:
    HowardB wrote:
    40 is the new 30, 50 is the new 40, etc, etc.


    ... and 20 is the new 10 :))

    As a manager over many 20 year-olds, I can confirm this :#
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  • The NumberThe Number Posts: 16MI6 Agent
    superdaddy wrote:
    Does anyone else think that 23 may be DCs last outing.
    I honestly dont know why but Ijust have this feeling that he will decide to quit the role after this one[hopefully] finish on a high kinda thing so as not to be like RM and SC who lets be honest stayed in the role to long or came back when really should not have.
    Anyone else have any thoughts or feelings on this, Iwould love to read them.

    I would sincerely hope not. Of the last three Bonds, two that I have lived through (Born in 87) Craig is hands down the best. I liked Brosnan, enjoyed Dalton, Moore has his good points (Kicking the Car over the ravine in FYEO is hands down my favorite Moore Bond scene.) I really enjoyed Lazenby in OHMSS he added a sort of intimate personal touch to Bond, and of course the great gandaddy of the them all Connery. Of all the others, Craig reminds me more of Connery. I sincerely hope he keeps the role for as long as he can.

    If he doesn't, well I suppose good things must come to an end. It will be a great shame to see him go. My second best Bond of all time.
  • Gassy ManGassy Man USAPosts: 2,972MI6 Agent
    Have to agree with The Number on just about all counts. No pun intended. I suspect Craig will do at least one more, but chances are a few beyond that as well; he will age Bond gracefully.
  • sdu754sdu754 Posts: 8MI6 Agent
    The Number wrote:
    superdaddy wrote:
    Does anyone else think that 23 may be DCs last outing.
    I honestly dont know why but Ijust have this feeling that he will decide to quit the role after this one[hopefully] finish on a high kinda thing so as not to be like RM and SC who lets be honest stayed in the role to long or came back when really should not have.
    Anyone else have any thoughts or feelings on this, Iwould love to read them.

    I would sincerely hope not. Of the last three Bonds, two that I have lived through (Born in 87) Craig is hands down the best. I liked Brosnan, enjoyed Dalton, Moore has his good points (Kicking the Car over the ravine in FYEO is hands down my favorite Moore Bond scene.) I really enjoyed Lazenby in OHMSS he added a sort of intimate personal touch to Bond, and of course the great gandaddy of the them all Connery. Of all the others, Craig reminds me more of Connery. I sincerely hope he keeps the role for as long as he can.

    If he doesn't, well I suppose good things must come to an end. It will be a great shame to see him go. My second best Bond of all time.

    I don't like Craig's bond, he just doesn't seem to fit the role right. I think Pierce Bronsan and Roger Moore were the two best Bonds, that's why I'd like to see either Bronan back for 23 or someone who would portray the role the way he did do it.
  • capecape Posts: 17MI6 Agent
    I can't remember where, but I do remember reading somewere that DC is contracted to four Bond movies. So at least 2 more to go.
  • LexiLexi LondonPosts: 3,000MI6 Agent
    cape wrote:
    I can't remember where, but I do remember reading somewere that DC is contracted to four Bond movies. So at least 2 more to go.

    I'm pretty sure he's contracted to do ONE more Bond film, with an 'option' to do a fourth.
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  • Colonel ShatnerColonel Shatner Chavtastic Bristol, BritainPosts: 574MI6 Agent
    edited March 2010
    *Oops, wrong thread.*
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  • j.bladesj.blades Currently? You must be joking?Posts: 530MI6 Agent
    cape wrote:
    I can't remember where, but I do remember reading somewere that DC is contracted to four Bond movies. So at least 2 more to go.

    thats what i've heard nothing more, nothing less. and i can't say thats a bad thing i'm just looking forward to a more layed back modern spy-thriller for Bond 23, i'm certain that Craig will deliver. :)
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  • LoeffelholzLoeffelholz The United States, With LovePosts: 8,998Quartermasters
    Contracted for three, with an option for a fourth, I think---the same deal Brozzer got...
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  • Colonel ShatnerColonel Shatner Chavtastic Bristol, BritainPosts: 574MI6 Agent
    They had shorter lengths of time between Bond movies back in the 1960s and early 70s.
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  • j.bladesj.blades Currently? You must be joking?Posts: 530MI6 Agent
    Loeffelholz wrote:
    Contracted for three, with an option for a fourth, I think---the same deal Brozzer got...

    Loeffelholz, keeping in mind Brozers fourth film, do you think Craig should do a fourth? but, then again I doubt will see Craig driving a "vanish". so, at this point it seems to be up in the air. :) i do hope that he'd come back.
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  • sdu754sdu754 Posts: 8MI6 Agent
    j.blades wrote:
    Loeffelholz wrote:
    Contracted for three, with an option for a fourth, I think---the same deal Brozzer got...

    Loeffelholz, keeping in mind Brozers fourth film, do you think Craig should do a fourth? but, then again I doubt will see Craig driving a "vanish". so, at this point it seems to be up in the air. :) i do hope that he'd come back.

    The fourth Bronsan movie wasn't as good as the first three he did, but it wasn't because of anything he did. I think that Halle Berry was a poor choice for her role & the script wasn't as strong as bronsan's previous three.
  • LoeffelholzLoeffelholz The United States, With LovePosts: 8,998Quartermasters
    j.blades wrote:
    Loeffelholz wrote:
    Contracted for three, with an option for a fourth, I think---the same deal Brozzer got...

    Loeffelholz, keeping in mind Brozers fourth film, do you think Craig should do a fourth? but, then again I doubt will see Craig driving a "vanish". so, at this point it seems to be up in the air. :) i do hope that he'd come back.

    My take on Craig is that he'll simply opt out of a fourth film if he doesn't like the script, or the direction of the character, etc. I might be wrong...but I think he's exercising a bit more control over Bond than past actors have---thanks in part to Ms. Broccoli's friendship, possibly. So I don't expect history to repeat itself to the same extent as with DAD...one can only hope that Craigger's willing to ease the character in a (slightly) more traditional direction, whilst keeping the Fleming infuence we've seen of late.
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  • sdu754sdu754 Posts: 8MI6 Agent
    Loeffelholz wrote:
    j.blades wrote:
    Loeffelholz wrote:
    Contracted for three, with an option for a fourth, I think---the same deal Brozzer got...

    Loeffelholz, keeping in mind Brozers fourth film, do you think Craig should do a fourth? but, then again I doubt will see Craig driving a "vanish". so, at this point it seems to be up in the air. :) i do hope that he'd come back.

    My take on Craig is that he'll simply opt out of a fourth film if he doesn't like the script, or the direction of the character, etc. I might be wrong...but I think he's exercising a bit more control over Bond than past actors have---thanks in part to Ms. Broccoli's friendship, possibly. So I don't expect history to repeat itself to the same extent as with DAD...one can only hope that Craigger's willing to ease the character in a (slightly) more traditional direction, whilst keeping the Fleming infuence we've seen of late.

    I think I remember hearing a long time ago that Bronsan rejected Casino Royale because he didn't like the script, but I'm not 100% sure.
  • LexiLexi LondonPosts: 3,000MI6 Agent
    perhaps my keyboard's not working properly...... *sigh* :#
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  • Napoleon PluralNapoleon Plural LondonPosts: 10,467MI6 Agent
    What's that got to do with the price of fish, Lexi?

    As for Brozzer, after DAD he was approached by Quentin Tarantino who wanted to do an adaptation of Casino Royale, which would follow on from OHMSS in chronology. How far the idea went no-one knows as Brosnan was left high and dry by the producers who then went with the idea of CR for their new actor, who turned out to be Craig.
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  • LexiLexi LondonPosts: 3,000MI6 Agent
    Napoleon Plural wrote:
    What's that got to do with the price of fish, Lexi?

    My point exactly ! 8-)

    ...perhaps I should learn how to pee standing up ;)
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  • LoeffelholzLoeffelholz The United States, With LovePosts: 8,998Quartermasters
    Lexi wrote:
    cape wrote:
    I can't remember where, but I do remember reading somewere that DC is contracted to four Bond movies. So at least 2 more to go.

    I'm pretty sure he's contracted to do ONE more Bond film, with an 'option' to do a fourth.

    Oops! Sorry Lex...I hadn't seen this post when I made mine...my apologies ;%
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  • LexiLexi LondonPosts: 3,000MI6 Agent
    No worries Loeff - although I might be onto something :)) ;)
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  • ThunderpussyThunderpussy Behind you !Posts: 63,792MI6 Agent
    Nex one Craigs Last, I most sincerely hope so
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  • sdu754sdu754 Posts: 8MI6 Agent
    Thunderpussy wrote:
    Nex one Craigs Last, I most sincerely hope so

    Me too, I don't think Craigs cut out to be bond
  • zaphodzaphod Posts: 1,183MI6 Agent
    Colonel Shatner wrote:
    They had shorter lengths of time between Bond movies back in the 1960s and early 70s.

    I think this is a good point. One of the reasons that Dalton bailed is the length of time he had been associated with Bond he felt was disproportianate. I think a lot depends upon how good, and how well received 23 is will influnce DC's inclination to pick up the option for his fourth or not. I seriously doubt that he will want to go beyond 4. I'm fairly convinced that either way it will be his decision.
  • zaphodzaphod Posts: 1,183MI6 Agent
    sdu754 wrote:
    Thunderpussy wrote:
    Nex one Craigs Last, I most sincerely hope so

    Me too, I don't think Craigs cut out to be bond

    Cheer up. In an alternative Universe If Ms Brocoli had got her way we would probably have had to suffer Sean Bean and may still have him in place today.
  • DB5DB5 BrisbanePosts: 47MI6 Agent
    I can't remember where I saw this news and you may have discussed it before (as I'm a newbie to this forum) but Bond 23 will be the final chapter in the trilogy of CR, QOS and Bond 23 and the storyline they are following. A perfect time for DC to just walk away.

    Personally I think he'll wait to see how much they offer him '$$$' after Bond 23.
  • Red IndianRed Indian BostonPosts: 427MI6 Agent
    edited March 2010
    As Barbara Broccoli has stated many times, the part is DC's as long as he wants it. He has said as long as he likes the scripts he'll keep doing it. When joking about leaving in an interview she freaked out and clutched him as if he were her child!

    If after a couple of more films he speaks of walking away, I'm certain they will throw a ton of cash at him. They paid him a bonus AFTER CR came out because it did so well. There were many reasons why CR was a success but you have to accept the fact that the main reason is Craig himself. He's not going anywhere as long as they are producing films on par with the last two.

    He is the most physically fit Bond to date, and as others have said he is aging very well. Take a look at some photos from earlier in his career - he has the coveted "male secret weapon" of getting better looking as he ages!
  • DangerMouseDangerMouse Benfleet, EssexPosts: 235MI6 Agent
    IMO, I can see Dan doing a fourth Bond film after No. 23, provided they don't take six years like last time to release it. Whether or not he'll do a fifth film or so is a bonus.
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