Are Moderators Even Needed?

TheScashManTheScashMan Posts: 111MI6 Agent
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The concept of moderators (not just on this forum, but in principle) is lost on me (and I'm assuming most others who tend to follow Libertarian values).

A moderator should not exist. A webmaster (Administrator) should. BUT, their role should be to create a site for fans (of whatever genre) to enjoy/debate/discuss/argue even, but they should remain silent on all topics and ideally only log in once a month just to make sure endless spam posts of ''buy Viagra'' are deleted.

The problem with mods who like to throw their weight around is that they will always let their personal feelings get in the way of debate rather than do what they should do: stay neutral/silent and ONLY delete spam. But, because they cannot be even trusted to do that, they should be stripped of their status and be on the same platform as everyone else. I am confident that most people are put off by moderated forums, as it severely restricts what the web SHOULD be about: the free exchange of ideas and to debate without censorship (or the lingering threat of it).

Now moderators (and you're not going to like this) are only confident in debate not because of any intellectual capacity, but because they hold unfair advantages of thread locking/banning and other totalitarian practices that stink of fascism.

I do not care if I am unpopular for this belief, but let us see how many fascists and how many free minds actually linger on this forum.

So, the question is: are moderators even needed? My answer is a certified NO.
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  • Sir MilesSir Miles The Wrong Side Of The WardrobePosts: 27,443Chief of Staff
    TheScashMan wrote:
    So, the question is: are moderators even needed? My answer is a certified NO.


    Yep - you are definately certified :))

    Just so we are clear - for legal reasons - are you calling me a fascist ?
    YNWA 97
  • TheScashManTheScashMan Posts: 111MI6 Agent
    Sir Miles wrote:
    TheScashMan wrote:
    So, the question is: are moderators even needed? My answer is a certified NO.


    Yep - you are definately certified :))

    Just so we are clear - for legal reasons - are you calling me a fascist ?

    Someone's rather upset here :))

    And answer the thread's question instead of allowing your irrational personal feelings to interefere with the topic at hand.

    As for certified? Are YOU calling me insane? Now how's THAT for ''legal reasons'' lol. Sheesh you need to realise just how contradictory you sound here.
  • Sir MilesSir Miles The Wrong Side Of The WardrobePosts: 27,443Chief of Staff
    TheScashMan wrote:
    Someone's rather upset here :))

    I'm sorry that I've upset you :D
    TheScashMan wrote:
    And answer the thread's question instead of allowing your irrational personal feelings to interefere with the topic at hand.

    Why are my personal feelings 'irrational' ?
    YNWA 97
  • TheScashManTheScashMan Posts: 111MI6 Agent
    Sir Miles wrote:
    TheScashMan wrote:
    Someone's rather upset here :))

    I'm sorry that I've upset you :D
    TheScashMan wrote:
    And answer the thread's question instead of allowing your irrational personal feelings to interefere with the topic at hand.

    Why are my personal feelings 'irrational' ?

    Because you refuse to answer this thread on the principle of moderators (as outlined) and instead assume I am calling you fascist. Then you cite ''legal reasons'' lol :)) even though you yourself called me insane (wheras I didn't technically call you fascist, if you had actually read what I wrote properly).

    I am certian of this though: you seem very Big Government minded indeed, and it suits your chief of staff label down to a tee :)) . I assume you vote to the left, and I am fairly confident you don't like free discussion much, but that's just my initial impression. Let's see if you can change my mind.
  • Asp9mmAsp9mm Over the Hills and Far Away.Posts: 7,504MI6 Agent
    Mods are certainly needed for keeping the peace and stopping idiot and possibly libelous threads from appearing on the boards.

    So we get rid of mods and call them Administrators, yeah? Brilliant, that'll work.

    They also stop me from replying to idiots in the way that I'm tempted too, so they are indeed a necessity
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  • Asp9mmAsp9mm Over the Hills and Far Away.Posts: 7,504MI6 Agent
    TheScashMan wrote:
    Sir Miles wrote:
    TheScashMan wrote:
    Someone's rather upset here :))

    I'm sorry that I've upset you :D
    TheScashMan wrote:
    And answer the thread's question instead of allowing your irrational personal feelings to interefere with the topic at hand.

    Why are my personal feelings 'irrational' ?

    Because you refuse to answer this thread on the principle of moderators (as outlined) and instead assume I am calling you fascist. Then you cite ''legal reasons'' lol :)) even though you yourself called me insane (wheras I didn't technically call you fascist, if you had actually read what I wrote properly).

    I am certian of this though: you seem very Big Government minded indeed, and it suits your chief of staff label down to a tee :)) . I assume you vote to the left, and I am fairly confident you don't like free discussion much, but that's just my initial impression. Let's see if you can change my mind.

    You are clearly trolling the boards to provoke reactions. Well done, you da man 8-)
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  • TheScashManTheScashMan Posts: 111MI6 Agent
    Asp9mm wrote:
    Mods are certainly needed for keeping the peace and stopping idiot and possibly libelous threads from appearing on the boards.

    So we get rid of mods and call them Administrators, yeah? Brilliant, that'll work.

    They also stop me from replying to idiots in the way that I'm tempted too, so they are indeed a necessity

    Stalin would be proud of this post sir!

    And you clearly didn't read this OP properly, which is pitiful at best and downright disgraceful at worst.
  • Sir MilesSir Miles The Wrong Side Of The WardrobePosts: 27,443Chief of Staff
    TheScashMan wrote:
    Because you refuse to answer this thread on the principle of moderators (as outlined) and instead assume I am calling you fascist. Then you cite ''legal reasons'' lol :)) even though you yourself called me insane (wheras I didn't technically call you fascist, if you had actually read what I wrote properly).

    I am certian of this though: you seem very Big Government minded indeed, and it suits your chief of staff label down to a tee :)) . I assume you vote to the left, and I am fairly confident you don't like free discussion much, but that's just my initial impression. Let's see if you can change my mind.


    I haven't called you insane ?:) If you chose to wear the cap though... :D

    I dress to the left if thats any help to you ?

    Lets see if I can "change your mind" ??? Why - what do you want for it ? :))
    YNWA 97
  • LoeffelholzLoeffelholz The United States, With LovePosts: 8,998Quartermasters
    I actually like the moderators here just fine...though I'm not sure that's been 100% reciprocated by all mods since 2005 :p ...but that's life.
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  • TheScashManTheScashMan Posts: 111MI6 Agent
    Asp9mm wrote:
    TheScashMan wrote:
    Sir Miles wrote:

    I'm sorry that I've upset you :D



    Why are my personal feelings 'irrational' ?

    Because you refuse to answer this thread on the principle of moderators (as outlined) and instead assume I am calling you fascist. Then you cite ''legal reasons'' lol :)) even though you yourself called me insane (wheras I didn't technically call you fascist, if you had actually read what I wrote properly).

    I am certian of this though: you seem very Big Government minded indeed, and it suits your chief of staff label down to a tee :)) . I assume you vote to the left, and I am fairly confident you don't like free discussion much, but that's just my initial impression. Let's see if you can change my mind.

    You are clearly trolling the boards to provoke reactions. Well done, you da man 8-)

    The term troll is always used by those who dislike unconformists. Once again, your ignorance is flourishing!
  • TheScashManTheScashMan Posts: 111MI6 Agent
    Sir Miles wrote:
    TheScashMan wrote:
    Because you refuse to answer this thread on the principle of moderators (as outlined) and instead assume I am calling you fascist. Then you cite ''legal reasons'' lol :)) even though you yourself called me insane (wheras I didn't technically call you fascist, if you had actually read what I wrote properly).

    I am certian of this though: you seem very Big Government minded indeed, and it suits your chief of staff label down to a tee :)) . I assume you vote to the left, and I am fairly confident you don't like free discussion much, but that's just my initial impression. Let's see if you can change my mind.


    I haven't called you insane ?:) If you chose to wear the cap though... :D

    I dress to the left if thats any help to you ?

    Lets see if I can "change your mind" ??? Why - what do you want for it ? :))

    You did call me ''certified''. But no matter, the issue at hand is the PRINCIPLE of moderators, which you still refuse to answer.

    Why not read this OP first and THEN speak.
  • Asp9mmAsp9mm Over the Hills and Far Away.Posts: 7,504MI6 Agent
    My ignorance is surpassed by your amazing infantile posting on a subject you cannot even comprehend.

    Your very post points to a hypocritical youth trying to come to terms with the world and what you need to conform with to fit in with society. All of which shines out in every post you make. Bravo.
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  • PendragonPendragon ColoradoPosts: 2,640MI6 Agent
    edited May 2010
    two things.

    1. I :x my mods, and have for the last 6 or 7 years here. they do an awesome job at keeping redundant threads out of the forums, and they keep people who stir up trouble away.

    2. If you're gonna be horrible to the members here, kindly GTFO, TheScashMan. thank you.
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  • Sir MilesSir Miles The Wrong Side Of The WardrobePosts: 27,443Chief of Staff
    TheScashMan wrote:
    You did call me ''certified''. But no matter, the issue at hand is the PRINCIPLE of moderators, which you still refuse to answer.

    Not 'refuse'...but choose not too...

    I'll offer you a packet of Spangles and a conker ? :D
    YNWA 97
  • TheScashManTheScashMan Posts: 111MI6 Agent
    Asp9mm wrote:
    My ignorance is surpassed by your amazing infantile posting on a subject you cannot even comprehend.

    Your very post points to a hypocritical youth trying to come to terms with the world and what you need to conform with to fit in with society. All of which shines out in every post you make. Bravo.

    Look, you've impressed the Chief of Staff enough already. I get it. He gets it. So does everyone else reading. The only thing is: YOU still don't get it.

    Here's the deal: you're safe from being banned. You've puckered up successfully. Job done. There is no need to do any more. The self appointed ''sir'' Miles is probably very impressed with your verbal attack on the ''troll'' and you'll most likely be given mod status within the hour.

    Birds of a feather clearly flock together here.
  • TheScashManTheScashMan Posts: 111MI6 Agent
    Pendragon wrote:
    two things.

    1. I :x my mods, and have for the last 7 years here

    2. If you're gonna be horrible to the members here, kindly GTFO. thank you.

    And I thought Stalin would have been proud of the other poster. You just outranked even him!
  • Asp9mmAsp9mm Over the Hills and Far Away.Posts: 7,504MI6 Agent
    edited May 2010
    Looking over all of the posts here made by the OP, they are all designed to provoke a reaction and he failed to. Now he attacks mods. Whats the point. It's a Bond forum, post about Bond or move along. We aren't here to help with inferiority complexes.

    This is a privately owned forum. Don't like it. Go to CBn.
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  • PendragonPendragon ColoradoPosts: 2,640MI6 Agent
    TheScashMan wrote:
    Pendragon wrote:
    two things.

    1. I :x my mods, and have for the last 7 years here

    2. If you're gonna be horrible to the members here, kindly GTFO. thank you.

    And I thought Stalin would have been proud of the other poster. You just outranked even him!

    glad to hear that. leave us in peace.
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  • TheScashManTheScashMan Posts: 111MI6 Agent
    Asp9mm wrote:
    Looking over all of the posts here made by the OP, they are all designed to provoke a reaction and he failed to. Now he attacks mods. Whats the point. It's a Bond forum, post about Bond or move along. We aren't here to help with inferiority complexes.

    This is a privately owned forum. Don't like it. Go to CBn.

    Actually, my post in the Bond23 forum was quite heated indeed.

    And this is the off-topic forum, so this is the perfect discussion point. Plus, I am talking about moderation in PRINCIPLE, not just here, but everywhere. I assume you've never really thought about fundamental freedoms have you.
  • TheScashManTheScashMan Posts: 111MI6 Agent
    Pendragon wrote:
    TheScashMan wrote:
    Pendragon wrote:
    two things.

    1. I :x my mods, and have for the last 7 years here

    2. If you're gonna be horrible to the members here, kindly GTFO. thank you.

    And I thought Stalin would have been proud of the other poster. You just outranked even him!

    glad to hear that. leave us in peace.

    The conformity in your posts is not only disturbing, but disgraceful!
  • LoeffelholzLoeffelholz The United States, With LovePosts: 8,998Quartermasters
    TheScashMan wrote:
    Pendragon wrote:
    two things.

    1. I :x my mods, and have for the last 7 years here

    2. If you're gonna be horrible to the members here, kindly GTFO. thank you.

    And I thought Stalin would have been proud of the other poster. You just outranked even him!

    It's just the free exchange of opinions, Scash! Kindly refrain from insulting my good friend Pendragon, if you please.

    You know, your first three or four posts were greatly amusing stuff, and I enjoyed them in the spirit which I believe you intended them. Now that your quiver of Sir Roger Moore arrows is apparently exhausted, however, it's rather depressing to see you stoop to simply picking fights with members. If you could manage to step back and take a breath, I think you'd find a welcoming place for any James Bond fan. If you can't manage such a thing, regrettably I must say I'm disappointed. You had great potential.
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  • Asp9mmAsp9mm Over the Hills and Far Away.Posts: 7,504MI6 Agent
    TheScashMan wrote:
    Asp9mm wrote:
    Looking over all of the posts here made by the OP, they are all designed to provoke a reaction and he failed to. Now he attacks mods. Whats the point. It's a Bond forum, post about Bond or move along. We aren't here to help with inferiority complexes.

    This is a privately owned forum. Don't like it. Go to CBn.

    Actually, my post in the Bond23 forum was quite heated indeed.

    And this is the off-topic forum, so this is the perfect discussion point. Plus, I am talking about moderation in PRINCIPLE, not just here, but everywhere. I assume you've never really thought about fundamental freedoms have you.

    I've fought and personally suffered for the freedoms you have, so wind your neck in.
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  • TheScashManTheScashMan Posts: 111MI6 Agent
    edited May 2010
    Loeffelholz wrote:
    It's just the free exchange of opinions, Scash! Kindly refrain from insulting my good friend Pendragon, if you please.

    I freely exchanged my opinion in opposition to Pendragon's opinion. There is no need to jump in on this.

    Incidentally, I also raised a similar issue elsewhere (on the craigisnotbond forum):

    http://www.danielcraigisnotbond.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=2315

    Y
    Loeffelholz wrote:
    ou know, your first three or four posts were greatly amusing stuff, and I enjoyed them in the spirit which I believe you intended them. Now that your quiver of Sir Roger Moore arrows is apparently exhausted, however, it's rather depressing to see you stoop to simply picking fights with members. If you could manage to step back and take a breath, I think you'd find a welcoming place for any James Bond fan. If you can't manage such a thing, regrettably I must say I'm disappointed. You had great potential.

    I am here to debate and discuss, but, sadly, it seems those who have ''great potential'' must conform. Well, sorry to dissapoint, but that's not my style. Oh, and the posts about Sir Rog are not for comedic effect either, he really should still be Bond. I am disgusted that you have joined the lynch mob Loeffelholz, quite disgusted indeed.
  • HardyboyHardyboy Posts: 5,901Chief of Staff
    Maybe I should quit and allow y'all to enjoy the spam and trash I clean up before anyone notices it.
    Vox clamantis in deserto
  • Sir MilesSir Miles The Wrong Side Of The WardrobePosts: 27,443Chief of Staff
    Loeffelholz wrote:
    It's just the free exchange of opinions, Scash! Kindly refrain from insulting my good friend Pendragon, if you please.

    Please do as asked. You can insult me all you like...
    Loeffelholz wrote:
    You know, your first three or four posts were greatly amusing stuff, and I enjoyed them in the spirit which I believe you intended them. Now that your quiver of Sir Roger Moore arrows is apparently exhausted, however, it's rather depressing to see you stoop to simply picking fights with members. If you could manage to step back and take a breath, I think you'd find a welcoming place for any James Bond fan. If you can't manage such a thing, regrettably I must say I'm disappointed. You had great potential.

    I'm with Loeff on this - we must have similar plumage :))

    My offer still stands ScashMan ;)

    But if anybody ever says to you...."Penny for your thoughts".... SELL :))
    YNWA 97
  • PendragonPendragon ColoradoPosts: 2,640MI6 Agent
    TheScashMan wrote:
    Pendragon wrote:
    TheScashMan wrote:

    And I thought Stalin would have been proud of the other poster. You just outranked even him!

    glad to hear that. leave us in peace.

    The conformity in your posts is not only disturbing, but disgraceful!

    oh hun. if only you actually knew me. then you'd see just how much I "conform." female in a male dominated field of work, tomboy, non partying college student...oh yeah. I'm SUCH a conformist :))
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  • Asp9mmAsp9mm Over the Hills and Far Away.Posts: 7,504MI6 Agent
    Conform is a catchword used by people who cannot string an argument together rationally or with any intelligence. Indeed if conformity was in anyway involved in this thread, I wouldn't be posting as I am knowingly antogonising a person of inferior intellect, which is strictly against forum rules and will get me shouted at by Hardyboy.
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  • LoeffelholzLoeffelholz The United States, With LovePosts: 8,998Quartermasters
    TheScashMan wrote:
    I am here to debate and discuss, but, sadly, it seems those who have ''great potential'' must conform.

    Well, yes, sometimes they do. Sorry, son. That's the way life works sometimes. Perhaps you should start your own site, run it the way you like, and never suppress anything. If you do, I'd be glad to drop in and visit, because there's nothing more entertaining than a whopping great wreck viewed from a safe distance.
    TheScashMan wrote:
    Oh, and the posts about Sir Rog are not for comedic effect either, he really should still be Bond.

    Okay. My suggestion that 82 year-old Sir Rog be replicated animatronically was not for comedic effect either. They really ought to do it.
    TheScashMan wrote:
    I am disgusted that you have joined the lynch mob Loeffelholz, quite disgusted indeed.

    Gosh, I'm sorry :( But if you think this is a 'lynch mob', you should have been around for the Craig Wars B-) Fortunately, I'm perfectly equipped to deal with your disapproval.
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  • TheScashManTheScashMan Posts: 111MI6 Agent
    Asp9mm wrote:
    I've fought and personally suffered for the freedoms you have, so wind your neck in.

    The tone in your posts suggest otherwise.
  • PendragonPendragon ColoradoPosts: 2,640MI6 Agent
    Loeffelholz wrote:
    Gosh, I'm sorry :( But if you think this is a 'lynch mob', you should have been around for the Craig Wars B-) Fortunately, I'm perfectly equipped to deal with your disapproval.

    ooh. The Craig Wars. that was truly a battle to behold.
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