Golden Gun Update

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  • Double Oh ZombieDouble Oh Zombie Posts: 47MI6 Agent
    Johnathan the cig case top only goes one way. It is angled so if you mounted it backwards it would not close and would look messed up. The hole is drilled in the wrong spot.
  • Double Oh ZombieDouble Oh Zombie Posts: 47MI6 Agent
    Couple of questions for Factory Q-Branch: Why do the boxes for the DSE say xxx of 430 if you say there are only 400 DSEs?

    Because they get another $20k for selling 30 more.

    I'm curious as to what order they are shipping these. They are not shipping them in the order the orders were placed. Are they shipping them alphabetically, by birth date, model year of the car you own? Why would you ship it in any order other than order #?
  • NICKO FANNICKO FAN Posts: 47MI6 Agent
    I,m annoyed with Factory Entertainment because they tried to do my order not the Mon gone but the Mon before that and my bank cancelled it because they thought that it was a lot of money going out, and didn't reconnise who was taking it. I quickly authorized them and then despite sveral Emails and Expensive calls to the USA, I have just got answer phones. I say there customer services really suck.
  • ppw3o6rppw3o6r Great BritainPosts: 2,280MI6 Agent
    Well after over a year of anticipation "it" arrived today, no: 272. The box arrived pretty battered but you would expect a gap between the outer packing case and inner presentation box much like Master Replicas used to ship, regrettably there is not as the inner box is a flush fit to the presentation box so dings on the outside carry through to the glossy inside. The first thing which struck me is "where's the bloody gun?" as there is no weight to it. The SD Studios replica is a solid quality brick so you know its in there somewhere. The FE prop is stored inside the acrylic cover for protection but trust me its so damn light and flimsy that you could easily miss it. The plaque is also somewhat light & flimsy which was the reason for purchasing the signature edition in the first place. Now for assembly, I'd advise you to use a torch to shine up the pin hole you have to line up with the receiving threaded hole or you may just screw away into nothing? The plating is not perfect and again the SD Studios replica is far superior here also. If you've sold your SD replica to fund this then you need to kick urself up the ass now! I echo the sentiments of a previous lister who hoped the second generation will be better and finally the prop information booklet has a number of technical gaffs which is hardly surprising when the original Factory Entertainment Youtube video got the year of release wrong. It was 1974 guys!
  • cris_19010689cris_19010689 Posts: 138MI6 Agent
    NICKO FAN wrote:
    I,m annoyed with Factory Entertainment because they tried to do my order not the Mon gone but the Mon before that and my bank cancelled it because they thought that it was a lot of money going out, and didn't reconnise who was taking it. I quickly authorized them and then despite sveral Emails and Expensive calls to the USA, I have just got answer phones. I say there customer services really suck.


    I too had this problem. Factory ent were quick to point out that my card was the problem and it had already been canceled before they tried charging it, but it was only two months old.
    Still, after a bit of 'gentle' persuasion at the bank, they agreed to release my funds to them.

    I am a bit worried now however, at these poor reviews. I am based in the UK and will have to pay a hurrendous import charge just to recieve the package. If it's as poorly wrapped as has been described, then I wudn't be suprised if I open the box to reveal a pile of crumbs.
    Still, I guess I will have to wait and see what is in store when they delivery people come knocking :#
  • Double Oh ZombieDouble Oh Zombie Posts: 47MI6 Agent
    The only thing that matters to me is how the weight compares to the original GG. The SD may weigh more but is it suposed to?
  • MANDY1MANDY1 TISPosts: 2,608MI6 Agent
    The only thing that matters to me is how the weight compares to the original GG. The SD may weigh more but is it suposed to?

    Weights Just like the wooden one Chris Lee used walk around with after the premiere :)) :))
    Knowing who to trust is Everything in this business.

    TIS - "The moment you think you got it figured - you're wrong"

    Formerly known as Teppo
  • MANDY1MANDY1 TISPosts: 2,608MI6 Agent
    ppw3o6r wrote:
    Well after over a year of anticipation "it" arrived today, no: 272. The box arrived pretty battered but you would expect a gap between the outer packing case and inner presentation box much like Master Replicas used to ship, regrettably there is not as the inner box is a flush fit to the presentation box so dings on the outside carry through to the glossy inside. The first thing which struck me is "where's the bloody gun?" as there is no weight to it. The SD Studios replica is a solid quality brick so you know its in there somewhere. The FE prop is stored inside the acrylic cover for protection but trust me its so damn light and flimsy that you could easily miss it. The plaque is also somewhat light & flimsy which was the reason for purchasing the signature edition in the first place. Now for assembly, I'd advise you to use a torch to shine up the pin hole you have to line up with the receiving threaded hole or you may just screw away into nothing? The plating is not perfect and again the SD Studios replica is far superior here also. If you've sold your SD replica to fund this then you need to kick urself up the ass now! I echo the sentiments of a previous lister who hoped the second generation will be better and finally the prop information booklet has a number of technical gaffs which is hardly surprising when the original Factory Entertainment Youtube video got the year of release wrong. It was 1974 guys!

    Also i had some problems finding the gun parts inside the package LOL
    Knowing who to trust is Everything in this business.

    TIS - "The moment you think you got it figured - you're wrong"

    Formerly known as Teppo
  • icsics Posts: 1,413MI6 Agent
    Well this thread is al of a sudden depressing reading… but i am still looking forward to it as I simply has to have it for my costume…

    Here two different homemade GG (and me – upsss)…

    I can feel I soon will be the clown on ajb… :D

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  • BozzltovBozzltov Posts: 89MI6 Agent
    Who gives a **** about the weight? It's a DISPLAY piece. Yes, you can assemble/disassemble the thing, but isn't the primary reason for this to DISPLAY? From the original video to the pictures that have been posted, I am still impressed. I will be showcasing mine proudly. I will be fixing the label to the base as recommended. For an item that costs this much money, why use it for any purpose other than putting it in the display case, and every once in a while pretending you're Scaramanga?
  • Theladiesman009.5Theladiesman009.5 Posts: 39MI6 Agent
    here are some pictures of my GG, I actually like mine pretty well, though the casting on the items is a little rough and the plaques are flimsy but overall mine is good. One spot on my gun is dull though for some reason the gold does not shine there.
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  • Theladiesman009.5Theladiesman009.5 Posts: 39MI6 Agent
    Does anyone know if the blaze orange plug comes out of the end of the pen(barrel) of the gun? Also from what I can tell the COA is in the back of the prop story booklet, the very last page. It isn't a specific COA to any of our guns it doesn't look like. Just a general COA for the Dual Signature Edition Golden Gun replicas.
  • ppw3o6rppw3o6r Great BritainPosts: 2,280MI6 Agent
    edited December 2010
    Bozzltov wrote:
    Who gives a **** about the weight? It's a DISPLAY piece. Yes, you can assemble/disassemble the thing, but isn't the primary reason for this to DISPLAY? From the original video to the pictures that have been posted, I am still impressed. I will be showcasing mine proudly. I will be fixing the label to the base as recommended. For an item that costs this much money, why use it for any purpose other than putting it in the display case, and every once in a while pretending you're Scaramanga?

    Who gives a xxxx about the weight? well I do for one. Many claims have been made about this replica by FE including the original source material and the solid materials they used to produce their replica. Well if you're a sad git like myself then you've probably spent many hours/days studying screen captures, original studio archive photos and the SD Studios replica, perhaps even a certain dentists promotional prop plus of course reading up on the original props history. I'm not gonna rip this to bits but certain aspects are wrong including the plating colour. The real GG has been exhibited by EON and the tone/quality of the plating is different. The FE looks like electroplated plastic which it is not. The SD replica was as accurate as funds allowed SD to produce it at the time. He could not afford the extra expense for the intricate tooling on the cigarette case. Additionally he did not have access to the original filming prop where according to FE they did so it should be spot on and its not.

    Yes it is an impressive display piece but it could and should be better. If you are happy with the replica you have received then fantastic, I am genuinely happy for you but I like a number of other die hard prop collectors are not and as we all know opinions are like assholes, everybody's got one!
  • NICKO FANNICKO FAN Posts: 47MI6 Agent
    edited December 2010
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    The Lighter doesn't look right to me why is the top of your barrel so far from the top of the lighter should be level with the third dimple if you look at the Gun on page 27 and what is that black rubber strip on the top of the barrel section.
  • BozzltovBozzltov Posts: 89MI6 Agent
    @ppw... different needs for different wants, i suppose.
  • jonathanhunter001jonathanhunter001 U.S.A.Posts: 31MI6 Agent
    Nicko Fan: Sorry I didn't notice before but the "black rubber strip" is just bad light reflection :)) And I purposefully took the pic with the Lighter and Case about a centimeter apart to show how far the 2 holes are from each other.
  • Factory Q-BranchFactory Q-Branch Posts: 184MI6 Agent
    jonathanhunter001 - Please accept our apologies.

    The hole and recess for the cuff-link body are in completely the wrong place. For the life of me I cannot understand how this has occurred as the pieces were all cast and fabricated together and then gold plated. Its not been put on backward or anything the entire lid of the case has been manufactured wrongly. It should have been picked up as part of the QA process at multiple points and we apologize that it has not. The guns are hand made so issues can arrise, but defects like this should not pass the quality assurance process we have put in place and rest assured we will be taking it up with the factory.

    Please contact us to arrange an immediate replacement. Please let us know your order details. Its hard for us to identify some customers as they post under one user-name here but place their order with another, or with their actual names. So apologies if we have already contacted you about this.
  • NICKO FANNICKO FAN Posts: 47MI6 Agent
    ppw3o6r wrote:
    Bozzltov wrote:
    Who gives a **** about the weight? It's a DISPLAY piece. Yes, you can assemble/disassemble the thing, but isn't the primary reason for this to DISPLAY? From the original video to the pictures that have been posted, I am still impressed. I will be showcasing mine proudly. I will be fixing the label to the base as recommended. For an item that costs this much money, why use it for any purpose other than putting it in the display case, and every once in a while pretending you're Scaramanga?

    Who gives a xxxx about the weight? well I do for one. Many claims have been made about this replica by FE including the original source material and the solid materials they used to produce their replica. Well if you're a sad git like myself then you've probably spent many hours/days studying screen captures, original studio archive photos and the SD Studios replica, perhaps even a certain dentists promotional prop plus of course reading up on the original props history. I'm not gonna rip this to bits but certain aspects are wrong including the plating colour. The real GG has been exhibited by EON and the tone/quality of the plating is different. The FE looks like electroplated plastic which it is not. The SD replica was as accurate as funds allowed SD to produce it at the time. He could not afford the extra expense for the intricate tooling on the cigarette case. Additionally he did not have access to the original filming prop where according to FE they did so it should be spot on and its not.

    Yes it is an impressive display piece but it could and should be better. If you are happy with the replica you have received then fantastic, I am genuinely happy for you but I like a number of other die hard prop collectors are not and as we all know opinions are like assholes, everybody's got one!

    when you look at these Pics of EON prop it's pretty good really you can even see where the stand came from.

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  • icsics Posts: 1,413MI6 Agent
    Well Barry – it seems that your QA/QC is being stress validated… be happy as you will be prepared for the future -{
    jonathanhunter001 - Please accept our apologies.

    The hole and recess for the cuff-link body are in completely the wrong place. For the life of me I cannot understand how this has occurred as the pieces were all cast and fabricated together and then gold plated. Its not been put on backward or anything the entire lid of the case has been manufactured wrongly. It should have been picked up as part of the QA process at multiple points and we apologize that it has not. The guns are hand made so issues can arrise, but defects like this should not pass the quality assurance process we have put in place and rest assured we will be taking it up with the factory.

    Please contact us to arrange an immediate replacement. Please let us know your order details. Its hard for us to identify some customers as they post under one user-name here but place their order with another, or with their actual names. So apologies if we have already contacted you about this.
  • Factory Q-BranchFactory Q-Branch Posts: 184MI6 Agent
    WOW!

    Lots of issues here. So we will try to address them all.

    The Plaques - These are not paper. They are a very durable plastic with a metal laminate face We chose the material specifically as they are more durable than alloy plaques. MR had a lot of issues with their alloy plaques getting bent and scratched. It is very hard to successfully flatten an alloy plaque if it gets dinged or dented. These plastic plaques do not have that issue and are a lot more forgiving to surface scratching. The plaque belongs with the product and should be attached to the display base and so it comes with a self adhesive backing material. That is the safest and best place to store it as it will be protected behind Acrylic from the affects of light and dust almost indefinitely. Keeping the plaque separate form the product is risky as it is more likely to become damaged or lost.

    COA - This is located inside the prop story booklet on the last page, all of our Bond replicas have this, specific to the product in the same place..

    Weight – Well we added weight to the replica to give a weight of 14.5 oz or just under 1lb. We chose this weight as it is comparable to actual handguns of a similar size. A .38 special S&W pistol weighs 16oz and a typical .22 caliber pistol weighs between 16 and 20oz. This is supposed to be a stealth weapon used by an assassin that fires a very small 4.2mm bullet weighing 20.003 grams. It is not supposed to be a bulky hand cannon. We chose to add weight and make some of the parts solid to give it a realistic heft because none of the original props have that. This replica is heavier than any of the original props which have mostly hollow components, or were not made of metal. How heavy do people want it to be? It is a realistic weight for a gun of its type and is accurate to the original props.

    Communication – if people get our voicemail when they try to contact it means we are either on the phone with somebody else or not here. We are based in the USA in California. If you call at 4am we will not be here (well actually sometime swe are) If you get the voicemail please leave a detailed message and some way to reach or identify you and we will call you back. Likewise if you email us we will get back to you, sometimes this will take 24 or 48hours (Monday to Friday) as we often have to investigate your inquiry, but we will get back to you.

    Box Numbering – As we have repeatedly said the pen numbering on the outside of the carton has nothing to do with the product inside. These are carton marks that are used to indicate the exact number of cartons in a shipment so that we can match them up to a bill of lading when the product arrives in our warehouse. We receive multiple carton shipments all the time and products are often split between them. If an outer carton is labeled X of X that is all it indicates. Not all of the 400 SE guns were produced at the same time or shipped at the same time. This shipment also included some non Bond product and some prototypes of forthcoming products. That is why the boxes from that shipment are marked X of 430, There are also some out there marked X of 856, and one lucky one marked 1 of 1. The edition size of this product is set at 400. There are no more and will be no more for sale, EVER. The only extras that exist are contractual licensor samples which we have to give free of charge to the licensor plus and prototypes or proofs that are created prior to the production of the product for approvals etc. Contractually we are not permitted to reveal how many licensor samples we have to produce but I can tell you hey generate no revenue for us so we always try and agree the lowest numbers possible.

    Quality – If you don’t like it, send it back. We offer a 100% no quibble satisfaction guarantee. As long as its in a resalable condition we will take it back. What else can we say?

    In passing we love SD studios and what they did, we never set out to be better than them or claim to be the greatest. Steve is a friend and we consulted with him when we started this project. He would be the first to admit that both versions of the SDS replica were limited by resource and research. Neither version is accurate to the original props, but they are scarce and rare and should be cherished. Our replica is not intended to supplant any previous replica or any fan made version. We feel our replica represents the most accurate version yet produced at an excellent price. Lets not forgot that both versions of our gun are significantly cheaper than the original MSRP of the SD studios gun from over 10 years ago.

    We are very proud of all our replicas. I am sorry that some people don’t feel the same way. We listen to your feedback and take it to heart and act on it where you can.

    Anybody who is unhappy contact us and we will try to solve your problem.

    Barry and the Factory Team
  • NICKO FANNICKO FAN Posts: 47MI6 Agent
    Barry Have tried to contact you by phone can you please return our call. We have contacted the America and England office.
  • jonathanhunter001jonathanhunter001 U.S.A.Posts: 31MI6 Agent
    I owe FQB an apology on the accusations of the plaque and lack of COA. Immediately after logging off, I realized the back page was the COA haha and if you say that the plaque is very durable, then I'll accept that, and apologize. I hope I didn't seem too judgemental before, because despite the defective case, I love this gun!
  • Factory Q-BranchFactory Q-Branch Posts: 184MI6 Agent
    NICKO FAN wrote:
    Barry Have tried to contact you by phone can you please return our call. We have contacted the America and England office.

    PM Sent
  • ppw3o6rppw3o6r Great BritainPosts: 2,280MI6 Agent
    Quote: when you look at these Pics of EON prop it's pretty good really you can even see where the stand came from.

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    Thank you for posting the excellent photos of the newly refurbished original Golden Gun filming prop. I bring to your attention the lack of lip where the pen cap ends and the body of the pen/barrel begins. FE got this detail very wrong. Steve Dymszo got this detail very right on the second generation Golden Gun replica.
  • Double Oh ZombieDouble Oh Zombie Posts: 47MI6 Agent
    I think the guns and displays themselves look great. I wasn't a fan of the acrylic stand but after seeing that it is what the real one at EON is on it makes it a bit better. I like the other little one in the other EON pic. It' nice and small and points the muzzle down. I may have to make me one of those.
    The GG's gold color isn't spot on but that is something that is very hard to match. You would need to know what carat and of what origin the original gold was from to get it close and even then it probably wouldn't be a 100% match.

    I can't wait to get my paws on mine. It's a gorgeous piece.
  • jonathanhunter001jonathanhunter001 U.S.A.Posts: 31MI6 Agent
    Does anyone know if the blaze orange plug comes out of the end of the pen(barrel) of the gun? Also from what I can tell the COA is in the back of the prop story booklet, the very last page. It isn't a specific COA to any of our guns it doesn't look like. Just a general COA for the Dual Signature Edition Golden Gun replicas.

    I'd like to know the answer to that, too. The material looks easy to get rid of, but I'm not sure I'm willing to risk that just yet 8-)
  • Mike ZMike Z San Francisco, CAPosts: 43MI6 Agent
    ics wrote:
    Well this thread is al of a sudden depressing reading… but i am still looking forward to it as I simply has to have it for my costume…
    ]

    I'm holding out for the "third nipple" edition
  • devinclfalconsdevinclfalcons Posts: 26MI6 Agent
    Although the final product is not perfect, I am very happy with the looks and the very valuable signatures on the plaque :)
  • MANDY1MANDY1 TISPosts: 2,608MI6 Agent
    edited December 2010
    I hate to say this, but the ONLY reason why i'm probably keeping this item
    - is those signatures and the FACT there won't be another signature edition GG.

    However, if i would have been part of this kind of project - the money
    used for those signatures and extra resin bullets, would have been used for the item itself.
    Materials, machining, plating etc. ...and Quality control.


    NOTE: Those who haven't yet received their Golden Gun(s) this is just MY personal opinion ;)
    Knowing who to trust is Everything in this business.

    TIS - "The moment you think you got it figured - you're wrong"

    Formerly known as Teppo
  • icsics Posts: 1,413MI6 Agent
    Mike Z wrote:
    ics wrote:
    Well this thread is al of a sudden depressing reading… but i am still looking forward to it as I simply has to have it for my costume…
    ]

    I'm holding out for the "third nipple" edition


    Well Mike Z

    I already have a thread about the 3 nipple… I don’t know if you have seen it…but watch out you may see things you don’t want to see. :D

    http://www.ajb007.co.uk/topic/35403/a-prop-that-needs-to-be-modified/
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