I will take your bait… simply because it is a subject that sometimes can confuse prop buyers and makers…I have talked to “Gadget Master” about it on the following subject.
Silver vs gold – often when surroundings are white, gold turns up silver – this is very very common, so if you have a screen shot where you can see it is gold why would they then change it later to silver. Light in movie and stills can do a lot of tricks and the surrounding colours change gold to silver. So if you have a frame where the ring is gold then it will be gold in the whole movie why make different rings to the same character. And while making rings to the movie, I don’t think there would be different rings on different locations and studios. If they needed 10 rings – they would make 10 identical rings – cheaper.
I have head and witness Indy discussions on the colour of his hat simply due to one frame where is looks a different colour due to light (COW discussions)… it almost turns up in religion – what do you believe.
Regarding the statement on YOLT and TB rings being identical, my opinion is that “yes” the base is identical but the octopus is different. As previous discussed between Teppo and I, the difference is in the eyes and the arms. I have now attached photos of the YOLT ring. I simply can’t se the “hooks” and the octopus eyes are more mean (please tell where the hooks are ??). In addition we all should remember that there is two year gap between TB and YOLT. Also we should remember that Kevin McClory was involved in TB and it seems natural that when Saltzman and Broccoli did YOLT two years later, they would reject the TB version and make new – probably a naturally fear for a new McClory accusation.
But to summarize the design on the YOLT and TB SPECTRE rings are NOT identical.
Regarding Peal – I don’t believe it is peal simply on the reflections seen in the movies, I am leaning more towards metal. If it should be original seal it would have been made of ivory but that is simply not political correct today, and doesn’t look get the reflection.
Please feel free to comment (also other ajb members)
Here screen shots from YOLT, we also have it in HD.
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I will take your bait… simply because it is a subject that sometimes can confuse prop buyers and makers…I have talked to “Gadget Master” about it on the following subject.
Silver vs gold – often when surroundings are white, gold turns up silver – this is very very common, so if you have a screen shot where you can see it is gold why would they then change it later to silver. Light in movie and stills can do a lot of tricks and the surrounding colours change gold to silver. So if you have a frame where the ring is gold then it will be gold in the whole movie why make different rings to the same character. And while making rings to the movie, I don’t think there would be different rings on different locations and studios. If they needed 10 rings – they would make 10 identical rings – cheaper.
I have head and witness Indy discussions on the colour of his hat simply due to one frame where is looks a different colour due to light (COW discussions)… it almost turns up in religion – what do you believe.
Regarding the statement on YOLT and TB rings being identical, my opinion is that “yes” the base is identical but the octopus is different. As previous discussed between Teppo and I, the difference is in the eyes and the arms. I have now attached photos of the YOLT ring. I simply can’t se the “hooks” and the octopus eyes are more mean (please tell where the hooks are ??). In addition we all should remember that there is two year gap between TB and YOLT. Also we should remember that Kevin McClory was involved in TB and it seems natural that when Saltzman and Broccoli did YOLT two years later, they would reject the TB version and make new – probably a naturally fear for a new McClory accusation.
But to summarize the design on the YOLT and TB SPECTRE rings are NOT identical.
Regarding Peal – I don’t believe it is peal simply on the reflections seen in the movies, I am leaning more towards metal. If it should be original seal it would have been made of ivory but that is simply not political correct today, and doesn’t look get the reflection.
Please feel free to comment (also other ajb members)
Here screen shots from YOLT, we also have it in HD.
Ohhh back to the pool:
FRWL: 4
TB: 8
YOLT: 2
DAF: 0
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