Lazenby over Moore?

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  • BlackleiterBlackleiter Washington, DCPosts: 5,615MI6 Agent
    Agreed, DAF was a weak effort by Connery and everyone else involved. The humor was so silly that it played more like a Roger Moore Bond than a Connery Bond. But contrast his fight in the elevator with the "real" Mr. Franks with any hand-to-hand combat Roger Moore ever engaged in. Sean Connery, even at his DAF low point, still gave the impression that he could be fearsome and formidable. Moore at his best never matched that level.
    mrbain007 wrote:
    I agree that it started with Connery's humorous quips and asides, but the genius of Sir Sean is that he still managed to keep the elements of menance and danger intact as well. Moore was never able to pull that off.
    mrbain007 wrote:
    The ironic thing is that the comic route didn't even begin with Moore. It began with Connery.

    By the time DAF was coming round, Connery was looking tired and not particularly "dangerous". Also by DAF the humour was becoming a lot sillier ("I was looking for my pet rat and I seem to have lost my way")
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  • mrbain007mrbain007 Posts: 393MI6 Agent
    Agreed, DAF was a weak effort by Connery and everyone else involved. The humor was so silly that it played more like a Roger Moore Bond than a Connery Bond. But contrast his fight in the elevator with the "real" Mr. Franks with any hand-to-hand combat Roger Moore ever engaged in. Sean Connery, even at his DAF low point, still gave the impression that he could be fearsome and formidable. Moore at his best never matched that level.
    mrbain007 wrote:
    I agree that it started with Connery's humorous quips and asides, but the genius of Sir Sean is that he still managed to keep the elements of menance and danger intact as well. Moore was never able to pull that off.

    By the time DAF was coming round, Connery was looking tired and not particularly "dangerous". Also by DAF the humour was becoming a lot sillier ("I was looking for my pet rat and I seem to have lost my way")

    I'll give you that...the elevator fight was good.
  • Absolutely_CartAbsolutely_Cart NJ/NYC, United StatesPosts: 1,740MI6 Agent
    Maybe Moore would've done a good job on OHMSS, but I felt Lazenby's performance to be near-perfect, for the movie.

    I feel like Lazenby had traits of both his predecessor and his successor. He had the masculine solid down-to-earth grounding of Connery, but he also had the politeness of Moore. This made for a perfect middle ground in the transition between the two.
  • Moore ThanMoore Than EnglandPosts: 3,173MI6 Agent
    edited December 2014
    I am almost sorry Roger did not portray 007 in On Her Majesty's Secret Service. If he had he would get a lot more respect than he does now in Bond forums such as this. If you are not convinced that he was capable of portraying the more emotional aspects (such as Tracy's death) then I invite you to watch The Man Who Haunted Himself, which was made around the same time as OHMSS. Arguably the performance of Roger's career, beautifully playing the two sides of Pelham, the confident/brash versus the weak/insecure.
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  • Absolutely_CartAbsolutely_Cart NJ/NYC, United StatesPosts: 1,740MI6 Agent
    I think Lazenby playing Bond helped solidify Moore, but I'll save that for another thread.
  • BlackleiterBlackleiter Washington, DCPosts: 5,615MI6 Agent
    Moore Than wrote:
    If you are not convinced that he was capable of portraying the more emotional aspects (such as Tracy's death) then I invite you to watch The Man Who Haunted Himself, which was made around the same time as OHMSS. Arguably the performance of Roger's career, beautifully playing the two sides of Pelham, the confident/brash versus the weak/insecure.

    I actually agree with you about that. I think Moore would have fared very well with those aspects of OHMSS. On the other, I can't picture him pulling off the PTS fight on the beach convincingly. Lazenby does both quite impressively, IMO.
    "Felix Leiter, a brother from Langley."
  • Absolutely_CartAbsolutely_Cart NJ/NYC, United StatesPosts: 1,740MI6 Agent
    ^ That's why I think Lazenby was the best Bond. If the Connery was 25%light / 75%serious and Moore was 75%light / 25%serious, Lazenby strikes a 50-50 balance. Just like OHMSS itself does.

    With the final tragic scene for example, Lazenby didn't nail it perfectly, but I don't see Moore or Connery nailing it either. It would've been too grim a moment for Moore and Connery would've been to stoic for it. I do think Dalton would've made that into a memorable scene though.
  • ThunderpussyThunderpussy Behind you !Posts: 63,792MI6 Agent
    For me Connery, Lazenby and Craig all look good in the
    fight scenes. Brosnan and Moore are ok, with Dalton looking
    very stiff ( oh er missus ) in the fights. :D
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  • Moore ThanMoore Than EnglandPosts: 3,173MI6 Agent
    Moore Than wrote:
    If you are not convinced that he was capable of portraying the more emotional aspects (such as Tracy's death) then I invite you to watch The Man Who Haunted Himself, which was made around the same time as OHMSS. Arguably the performance of Roger's career, beautifully playing the two sides of Pelham, the confident/brash versus the weak/insecure.

    I actually agree with you about that. I think Moore would have fared very well with those aspects of OHMSS. On the other, I can't picture him pulling off the PTS fight on the beach convincingly. Lazenby does both quite impressively, IMO.

    Admittedly, the fight scenes were not a great strength of Roger Moore's. But having Peter Hunt behind the camera, and the use of his fast cut film editing technique, then Roger would surely have looked a lot better. I am surprised they never tried that while Roger was Bond. Maybe it would have made him look too brutal. :D
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