Jack wade

Denzil2222 · December 2010

Im interested to know what ye guys thought about leiter's replacement jack wade played by joe don baker in goldeneye and tomorrow newer dies? Would you liked to have seen more of him ?

Ricardo C. · December 2010

He was fine in Goldeneye but unessecary and grating in Tomorrow Never Dies. I don't think we need to see him for a third time.

DaltonFan1 · December 2010

Jack Wade was a good minor character in GoldenEye and a slightly amusing sidenote, but I agree he didn't really fit in TND, which was a very poor film anyway.
I'm sure baker wont return as jack wade but its probably possible that he will be reincarnated like felix.

thesecretagent · December 2010

I found him annoyingly "American abroad". How he would have fitted into working in St. Petersberg is beyond me, especially at the time the film was set. Ok, it was free from communism, but not like now. He was too brash and noticable. He only needed a Yankees cap and a big fat cigar or hotdog to look any more American. He was far too over-compensated. A real CIA operative in Russia would have been practically invisible. Wade existed to make Bond look even more suave.

Ricardo C. · December 2010

thesecretagent wrote:

I found him annoyingly "American abroad". How he would have fitted into working in St. Petersberg is beyond me, especially at the time the film was set. Ok, it was free from communism, but not like now. He was too brash and noticable. He only needed a Yankees cap and a big fat cigar or hotdog to look any more American. He was far too over-compensated. A real CIA operative in Russia would have been practically invisible. Wade existed to make Bond look even more suave.

The phrase "duh" comes to mind.

) Seriously though, that was the point of the character. He was anything but a CIA/Undercover agent and more like a tourist. Of course, if you find this appealing or not depends on you.

thesecretagent · December 2010

Ricardo C. wrote:

thesecretagent wrote:

I found him annoyingly "American abroad". How he would have fitted into working in St. Petersberg is beyond me, especially at the time the film was set. Ok, it was free from communism, but not like now. He was too brash and noticable. He only needed a Yankees cap and a big fat cigar or hotdog to look any more American. He was far too over-compensated. A real CIA operative in Russia would have been practically invisible. Wade existed to make Bond look even more suave.

The phrase "duh" comes to mind. ) Seriously though, that was the point of the character. He was anything but a CIA/Undercover agent and more like a tourist. Of course, if you find this appealing or not depends on you.

Having worked security in Russia, The Ukraine and Chechnya I know that the only thing that matters is low-key. At the time Wade was in Russia looking like he did, he would have been seperated by his bodyparts and distributed all over the city. The big-time criminals are (or at least were) opposed to anybody and everybody they even suspected of taking business away from them, or people they could extort from.

Ricardo C. · December 2010

thesecretagent wrote:

Ricardo C. wrote:

thesecretagent wrote:

I found him annoyingly "American abroad". How he would have fitted into working in St. Petersberg is beyond me, especially at the time the film was set. Ok, it was free from communism, but not like now. He was too brash and noticable. He only needed a Yankees cap and a big fat cigar or hotdog to look any more American. He was far too over-compensated. A real CIA operative in Russia would have been practically invisible. Wade existed to make Bond look even more suave.

The phrase "duh" comes to mind. ) Seriously though, that was the point of the character. He was anything but a CIA/Undercover agent and more like a tourist. Of course, if you find this appealing or not depends on you.

Having worked security in Russia, The Ukraine and Chechnya I know that the only thing that matters is low-key. At the time Wade was in Russia looking like he did, he would have been seperated by his bodyparts and distributed all over the city. The big-time criminals are (or at least were) opposed to anybody and everybody they even suspected of taking business away from them, or people they could extort from.

I see. Really, the last film I'd take very seriously is Goldeneye. Remember that this is the same film that had Bond plowing through the streets of St. Petersburg in a tank. Of course I know it would be harder to have that suspension of disbelief when you have actually have had experience and knowledge about criminals.

Thunderpussy · December 2010

I always judged Wade to be a bit of Comic relief.But I think Americans do get a hard deal from the movies lately their either Big loud mouths,members of evil corporations,or stupid.

thesecretagent · December 2010

Your point being?

Ricardo C. · December 2010

Thunderpussy wrote:

I always judged Wade to be a bit of Comic relief.But I think Americans do get a hard deal from the movies lately their either Big loud mouths,members of evil corporations,or stupid.

Don't forget xenophobic and thirsty for power. It's really getting tired, especially in Hollywood. Films used to be brave attacking what was really wrong in America but now it's just fashionable to say all of America is this awful, terrible place run by corrupt people.

Lexi · December 2010

thesecretagent wrote:

Your point being?

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Loeffelholz · December 2010

Lexi wrote:

thesecretagent wrote:

Your point being?

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At least we know our place! {[]

Andy007 · January 2011

He was too much like Sheriff JW Pepper. You couldn't take him seriously. He was in there for comedy value. Leiter was actually a sensible man, serious towards his job. Jack Wade just didn't offer anything. He was amusing to watch but pointless. You could argue he was annoying.

bigbychoice · January 2011

I didnt want to see him back after he was in The Living Daylights. Just seemed kind of pointless after seeing him as Brad Whittaker to play a CIA guy so soon. I guess they thought the time between the two movies would be long enough for us to forget him but i just dont know what to think about that

SpectreBlofeld · January 2011

There's some odd anti-Americanism in the post-Cold War films, and Jack Wade was part of it - the comic, buffoonish American agent, and M's line: "Unlike the Americans, we prefer not to get our bad news from CNN!' in Goldeneye.

Kinda puzzled by that line. There's no larger or better funded intelligence network in the world than that of the US. Heck, Fleming's own YOLT (novel) was about Bond trying to score intelligence material for Britain, citing the fact that the US was getting it all and not sharing it.

Then there's "I wonder what will upset them more, that the CIA lost it, or that we found it" concerning the GPS encoder in TND, insinuating some sort of feud between MI:6 and the CIA.

In the reboot, they've at least brought back an American ally for Bond in Felix, but he more or less has to betray the CIA in the process, as it seems the CIA is more or less in bed with Quantum; even telling Greene that they'll "get rid" of Bond.

So when the American's aren't inept, they're evil...

Jack wade

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