Not Bond's Clothes

I didn't give this a lot of thought until recently, but it's curious that many members are interested in finding and buying the attire that is worn by the actor's playing Bond, yet I don't know if they think about whether or not Bond would actually wear that particular attire.

For example, there are those trying to find the leather jacket Craig wears after his Haitian fight scene in QOS and continues to wear until after the boat chase sequence. However, the jacket didn't belong to Bond - he stole it from the dead villain's hotel room because he was assuming his identity (amazing how well if fits Craig though!). I realize it's a nice jacket and that many would buy it for that very reason, but would Bond himself have bought it?

This reasoning could apply to a number of situations from the films. Craigs attire in the chase scene in the beginning of CR for example. He and another agent are on a mission in Africa at the snake/mongoose fight. Are the clothes he is wearing the type Bond would wear if he were not undercover? Since Bond is undercover a lot or pretending to be a made up character, is he wearing what he himself would wear or is he making up a disguise and wearing clothes he thinks the character he is assuming would wear? Another example is when he was pretending to be Sir Hilary Bray. There are probably members who wanted to buy the sweater or shirt or whatever Lazenby wore in OHMSS when he was playing Bray, yet this is not what Bond himself would have worn, is it? Another example - when he escapes on skis from Piz Gloria, he's wearing a blue ski suit, but it's obvious that it is an outfit he stole from the equipment room.
I could go on, but I just though it's interesting how much is written about the apparel Bond wears in the films and how many would like to own it, yet some of it is or may not even be the type Bond would actually wear.

Comments

  • welshboy78welshboy78 Posts: 10,320MI6 Agent
    All good points indeed and valid however the problem is DC looks cool in most things he wears!!

    He seems to be a heavy follower of fashion in real life so I guess he prob co-ordinates a lot with his costume designer and has a lot of input hence even if he is out undercover / out of his Bond character he will still look cool unless he starts wearing false teeth and false ears / noses like Peter Sellers in the Pink Panther films!!!
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  • 007 and a half007 and a half LondonPosts: 595MI6 Agent
    You do have some valid points there I feel although the black Y-3 jacket Bond took from Slate's wardrobe was made from twill cotton and not leather. I believe he took it to cover up the blood & cuts to his arm incase anyone became suspicious.

    Also, I do believe Bond needs to be a 'chameleon' and blend in to his environment and wear the appropriate clothing for his work in the field. Such as lightweight linen trousers in the heat of Africa etc.

    So yes there will be times when Bond has to take clothes as he's on the go so he can blend in to his surroundings, he's very much a 'to suit the occasion' type of person in my opinion.
  • The Domino EffectThe Domino Effect Posts: 3,638MI6 Agent
    Although my wardrobe is admittedly influenced by the films, I personally would not purchase - let alone wear - anything that I didn't actually like. If it is something that I like and that I believe would suit me, then the connection with Bond is unquestionably very appealing, but I wouldn't wear something that I felt wasn't me just because it had been worn by Bond. For me, whether it is a "true" Bond item (ie something worn by Bond by choice) or a "field" Bond item (something worn to blend in or picked-up along the way) doesn't really matter if I peronally like it and can enjoy the Bond link.
  • HalfMonk HalfHitmanHalfMonk HalfHitman USAPosts: 2,353MI6 Agent
    I'm still trying to figure out why he threw on a leather jacket for a quick jaunt to Miami in June...
  • Matt SMatt S Oh Cult Voodoo ShopPosts: 6,610MI6 Agent
    The clothes that Bond picks up are still thought of by the costume designer as Bond's clothing. The costume designer isn't going to put Bond in something that wouldn't fit his image, even if it came from someone else. The best example of this is the dinner jacket in QoS. It wasn't his to begin with yet it was clearly planned out to be a homage to the Dr. No dinner jacket. The unique style and perfect fit isn't something that one could actually just pick up out of a locker. Most of the time these clothes should still be considered part of Bond's wardrobe. In the Live and Let Die novel Bond had to wear American clothes to fit in, yet he would only wear certain things. Bond would still refuse to wear tasteless clothing whenever possible.
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  • HalfMonk HalfHitmanHalfMonk HalfHitman USAPosts: 2,353MI6 Agent
    Matt S wrote:
    The clothes that Bond picks up are still thought of by the costume designer as Bond's clothing. The costume designer isn't going to put Bond in something that wouldn't fit his image

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  • Matt SMatt S Oh Cult Voodoo ShopPosts: 6,610MI6 Agent
    Matt S wrote:
    The clothes that Bond picks up are still thought of by the costume designer as Bond's clothing. The costume designer isn't going to put Bond in something that wouldn't fit his image

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  • CmdrAtticusCmdrAtticus United StatesPosts: 1,102MI6 Agent
    edited February 2011
    Enjoying the replies to my post -glad to see other members have noticed this. As far as what Bond wears in any given climate, I have found it interesting that in some films the character's choice (or I should say the costumer's) to be unusual. For example, in the Dalton films, he is dressed in a jacket in climates I would not image him wearing one. In TLD he is being chased through Tangier wearing a windbreaker and in LTK he's walking through Key West in a dark blue or black jacket. Granted that the reasoning he's wearing these is because of his shoulder holster and needs to hide it, but are the writers and costumers that daft? If he was wearing a business jacket or suit and tie in those climates because they have him posing as a professional corporate traveller, it would make sense ( like the tan suit sans tie he wore in the other Tangier scenes in TLD). If they have him in casual attire, wearing casual windbreakers or jackets in those hot climates then it makes him stick out even more in a crowd of short and tshirt wearing tourists or linen clothed locals. I realize everyone is use to the shoulder holster as being THE carrying rig for him (even though in the books he wore an inside the waistband holster), but just for the sake of reality could they not have had him sans jacket with an inside pants carry? Notice when Dalton is without his jacket with Sharkey the rest of his attire is appropriate - white light cotton shirt, tan pants and canvas shoes - not out of place around boat docks. Just find it strange that the filmmakers insists he always have a shoulder holster. At least with Craig they've gotten back to reality - I was happy to see him with an inside the waist holster in the African scenes.

    Sorry to harp. I know the films and books are just fantasies, yet its strange I can buy into buy into a hovercraft floating over landmines, yet seeing Bond wearing sweat inducing attire makes me take a mental pause!
  • JagJag Posts: 1,167MI6 Agent
    It's an interesting topic. Indeed, the role of a spy is to blend in, not stand out. This is why, paradoxically, Craig may be a more realistic Bond than his predecessors. In real life everyone will notice a handsome fellow like Brosnan, yet our streets are crowded with nondescript men like Craig! So when someone tries to get clothes that Daniel Craig's Bond wore, do they want to do it to be noticed or quite the opposite? It was interesting to read that Craig is interested in fashion and may be working with a stylist. The way I see it, with his plain looks, even the smartest clothes will not make him stand out too much. But then it may be pecisely why he was selected to play the new Bond - they call it back to basics. No more good-looking Bonds?
  • CmdrAtticusCmdrAtticus United StatesPosts: 1,102MI6 Agent
    I always thought that was a conumdrum myself, Jag. The producers went after actors who were attractive and masculine in the looks department, but it worked against the whole idea of the character's
    job of not being noticed in a crowd. So it's true Craig is not the romantic leading idol type in the looks department, and that is what the producers were going for when they wanted to get towards a more realistic Bond. I was one of those who was taken aback when he was announced for the role (the light hair still bothers me), but his pugilistic face and acting won me over right away. I really like Dalton because though he was handsome to a degree, he did not appear to me to be your typical magazine cover handsome type. He had a dark edge to his looks that I pictured the Bond in the novels to have.

    Connery also had a dark edge look, but to me he always seemed too rugged and rough in his personality to to be the type you would have seen as a former Eton alumni. Moore was the opposite for me - he was REALLY too handsome and though he may have seemed a former Eton type I could never be convinced he could be tough like Dalton or Craig. Lazenby I also liked. He leaned towards the model handsome type like Brosnan, but in many scenes there was something edgy there. The biggest problem with these actors was there height. Being six feet and over makes any man stand out in many situations (especially if they are in good shape and well dressed). It didn't help that large movie screens and framing of many of the scenes in the films even exaggerated this. Not exactly the ideal spy type. The novel Bond was just at six feet and though in good shape, it seemed the main thing that would make one notice him was the dark edge of his looks rather than being abnormally handsome.

    I think that's why Fleming described him as being a bit like Hoagy Carmichael. Now HC was not bad looking but he was not by any glamour standards a cover rmodel type. Besides, it always seemed to me Fleming was really just describing himself or his brother Peter in a more ideal fashion when in came to Bond's appearance.
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    Yes, I think actors like Dalton and Craig fit the novel Bond closest, and would not be as noticeable in the street. I hope they will continue this trend with any future actors who take the part. As far as the clothes, I like the trend of the Craig films of having him in the professional suits when he is in corporate scenes as in when he is at headquarters or posing as a business man, but also like the modern realistic way they now show him in more casual attire in other scenes. Bond in the novels did not wear any designer flashy clothes, only well made ones, and I'm glad the films started reflecting that.
  • JagJag Posts: 1,167MI6 Agent
    Thanks, Cmdr Atticus, couldn't agree with you more!

    Perosnally, I am not a big fan of Craig Bond and can't wait to see who the replacement will be.

    However, judging by discussions on this forum it would appear that Craig does in fact seem to wear designer flashy clothes - in fact so many people here discuss his shoes, socks, polos and so on, they not only know they brand but even the model of the shoes!
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