7 Mankind Mercer Jeans - Dye problem??

I have washed these cold many times and I still have a bizarre problem with the Dye!!

Unfortunately at home and work I have white and creme leather chairs and they end up blue at the end of any seating :))

Have many other jeans but these are crazy, its quite comical and wonder if anybody else has this problem!!

The wife is going bloody crazy with me :)){:)

ps - these are one of the most comfy jeans I have ever owned - love em and have two pairs!!! The Sta Prest 306s are pretty uncomfortable in comparison due to the stiffness of the jean
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  • Mr BeechMr Beech Florida, USAPosts: 1,749MI6 Agent
    The more indigo that is left in a jean, the more bleeding you will notice. It slows down over time, but since they are dark, this should be expected. Raw jeans (where the jean is left completely unwashed after indigo dying) are know for this far more so. Just be careful and don't try to wash out the extra dye, as it just fades the whole jeans.

    It is rather inevitable.
  • welshboy78welshboy78 Posts: 10,320MI6 Agent
    Mr Beech wrote:
    The more indigo that is left in a jean, the more bleeding you will notice. It slows down over time, but since they are dark, this should be expected. Raw jeans (where the jean is left completely unwashed after indigo dying) are know for this far more so. Just be careful and don't try to wash out the extra dye, as it just fades the whole jeans.

    It is rather inevitable.

    Knew I should of bought black leather sofas :))
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  • Mr BeechMr Beech Florida, USAPosts: 1,749MI6 Agent
    welshboy78 wrote:
    Mr Beech wrote:
    The more indigo that is left in a jean, the more bleeding you will notice. It slows down over time, but since they are dark, this should be expected. Raw jeans (where the jean is left completely unwashed after indigo dying) are know for this far more so. Just be careful and don't try to wash out the extra dye, as it just fades the whole jeans.

    It is rather inevitable.

    Knew I should of bought black leather sofas :))

    Not sure if you know much about raw denim, but it is basically left unwashed like in the old days so the jeans fade and gain character uniquely for the wearer. It is a nice process if you have the patience and take the time to learn it. The jeans must be worn a lot (like at least 4 active days per week) to see the effects that are considered desirable in the first few months.

    Anyways, it is common to hear raw jean wearers talk about having to sit on towel since they must wear the jeans, but they don't want to mess up their furniture. The indigo powder and dye rubs off all over.

    Best of luck and maybe get a specific cheap towel for sitting on until the dye bleed goes almost away. :))
  • TheExit148TheExit148 Posts: 563MI6 Agent
    I've never had an issue with raw denim (selvedge at least) bleeding on anything. I've had the issue with non-raw dark denim. Its the process in which the jeans are dyed. I believe 7 jeans are garment dyed, where raw selvedge denim jeans are rope dyed. The 7 jeans would be made first then dyed, which can add to indigo transfer (also the type of indigo used can be an issue too) where raw jeans each strand of cotton is dyed before the denim is woven together which creates layers of indigo which is the fades that raw jean wearers love to achieve. That is also why garment dyed jeans are super soft. They've been manufactured, washed a bunch of times, then dyed, and the garment dying keeps then super soft.

    It's all personal preference, but I will never buy a pair of jeans that are not raw selvedge denim. Everything else never holds up as well, and I hate that super soft out of the box feeling of jeans. The jeans need to be made to be the wearers own and raw is the only way to accomplish that.
  • welshboy78welshboy78 Posts: 10,320MI6 Agent
    Cheers for the info guys, I know nothing at all about Denim so you have educated me!!!!!!!

    So which manufacturers are raw selvedge denim?
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  • TheExit148TheExit148 Posts: 563MI6 Agent
    There are so many raw selvedge brands. I personally like Levi's Vintage Clothing denim, and some of the USA made Levi's currently on their site. Most Japanese jeans are all raw selvedge. I personally have a pair of Momotaro jeans and they are amazing. Check out APC as well. The trick with selvedge is that it stretches so you should always buy your exact size or one size down. And you also have to be careful because some selvedge is non-sanforized (which means it will shrink when washed) so you have to size up one and then hot soak it in your bath tub for an hour, and let air dry. It's a different process, but well worth it.

    The APC's and some of the Levi's Vintage and USA Made Levi's denim are sanforized which means the denim is already pre-shrunk before its manufactured into jeans.

    Most selvedge is expensive but check out "Unbranded Denim" http://www.theunbrandedbrand.com/. These jeans are top quality and are selvedge and cheap at $69. These will be my next pair of jeans in a year so for sure. Read up, and so far the only place to get them is at Urban Outfitters, or some sellers on "The Style Forum" will sell them to you.

    Also check out BiG in NYC for most Japanese jeans http://blueingreensoho.com/site/index.php, and Context Clothing http://www.contextclothing.com/ as well.

    My favorite jean's right now is the Levi's Vintage Clothing 1947 501 and the 1967 505. I've had the 47's for about 3 months now and they are breaking in very nice, and bought the 505's last November and they are nicely broken in.
  • nms75nms75 United KingdomPosts: 1,233MI6 Agent
    Does your arse look blue too? :))

    I know with Nudie dry denim jeans they suggest wearing them for 6 months before washing them for the first time to get that nice effect mentioned above. Who wants to wear jeans regulary for 6 months though without washing them? :s

    Smell ya later...

    NMS
    A sense of humour is no laughing matter!
  • welshboy78welshboy78 Posts: 10,320MI6 Agent
    nms75 wrote:
    Does your arse look blue too? :))


    NMS


    Ha - thats actually a valid question. I wear black boxers all the time hence maybe it is and I have not noticed :))
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  • nms75nms75 United KingdomPosts: 1,233MI6 Agent
    welshboy78 wrote:
    nms75 wrote:
    Does your arse look blue too? :))


    NMS


    Ha - thats actually a valid question. I wear black boxers all the time hence maybe it is and I have not noticed :))

    Not the same pair of black boxers I hope :v

    I must admit I have had jeans where a tiny bit of the dye has come off on my legs when frst worn new but nothing major.

    NMS
    A sense of humour is no laughing matter!
  • welshboy78welshboy78 Posts: 10,320MI6 Agent
    nms75 wrote:
    welshboy78 wrote:
    nms75 wrote:
    Does your arse look blue too? :))


    NMS


    Ha - thats actually a valid question. I wear black boxers all the time hence maybe it is and I have not noticed :))

    Not the same pair of black boxers I hope :v

    I must admit I have had jeans where a tiny bit of the dye has come off on my legs when frst worn new but nothing major.

    NMS

    Of course, you do realise you can get away with a pair of boxers for at least 2 days right? After 2 days you then turn them around (back to front) for 2 days, then you turn them inside out for 2 days (still back to front) and then you turn them back around again (inside out but correct way round).

    8 Days - 1 pair of boxers! :)
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  • nms75nms75 United KingdomPosts: 1,233MI6 Agent
    I bet a multipack from Matalan lasts you ages then?! :)) :)) :)) :p

    NMS
    A sense of humour is no laughing matter!
  • welshboy78welshboy78 Posts: 10,320MI6 Agent
    Yup I get a pack every Xmas which seems to last a year, then I throw the old ones out as I'm a clean kinda guy! :(|)
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  • Mr BeechMr Beech Florida, USAPosts: 1,749MI6 Agent
    nms75 wrote:
    Does your arse look blue too? :))

    I know with Nudie dry denim jeans they suggest wearing them for 6 months before washing them for the first time to get that nice effect mentioned above. Who wants to wear jeans regulary for 6 months though without washing them? :s

    Smell ya later...

    NMS

    6 months is the general rule for all raw jeans, but some brands go different than others and it depends on some preferences. Generally, jeans don't get that dirty in daily use and in fact you should not wash them too often because indigo is a lower hold dye and will fade fast.

    There was a study recently testing out how dirty jeans get since many people swear by not washing often and it was determined that a pair going unwashed 13 days has the same amount of bad bacteria as a pair unwashed for 15 months of wear. Not that you should do that, but it is fine to do the 6 months without wash and every month give or take is a good regular wash time.

    Putting the jeans in the freezer keeps them pretty fresh without washing because all the bacteria and odor is killed off.
  • TheExit148TheExit148 Posts: 563MI6 Agent
    Yes. All the LVC jeans came with or used to come with a booklet and it says wear the jeans as much as possible before washing. The way I look at, everyone in the past wearing these type of jeans probably washed all the time, and their jeans look amazing now when you see pics from the Levi's archives etc.

    People will go for a year without washing. If you don't sweat like a pig or generally have bad BO, you can get away with it. The less washing, the longer they stay darker, and the better the fades will become. And really how dirty are you if you are making your jeans stink that bad through your underwear!?! :))
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