Help Needed with Prop Purchased TWINE silk

Hi Guys, I bought a Prop from someone and need your Help. ( Not purchased on Ebay!)

Its a Piece of Parachute Silk from TWINE, Bond removes it from his pocket and shows it to Zukowsky.

I have doubts that its one from Production and would like to ask if either someone has one in their collection or whether anyone can give me details on the screen made Prop. It comes with a COA but as we know.. Kleenex! :-)

The one I have is printed on a Silky type Material, but I don't think its Silk, its somewhat heavier material, this made me a bit sceptical as the screen used one really "flowed" when dropped on the table, secondly, looking at the screenshots I made, the one on screen had the printing shining through to the other side, (the paint probably seeped through) this one is only printed on top and nothing shimmers through.

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This is the Silk I bought (Looks shinier than it is.... is actually matt like screen shot.)

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This is the screen shot...

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Can anyone help..??

Comments

  • ke02ewwke02eww USPosts: 2,063MI6 Agent
    Hi Guys, I bought a Prop from someone and need your Help. ( Not purchased on Ebay!)

    Its a Piece of Parachute Silk from TWINE, Bond removes it from his pocket and shows it to Zukowsky.

    I have doubts that its one from Production and would like to ask if either someone has one in their collection or whether anyone can give me details on the screen made Prop. It comes with a COA but as we know.. Kleenex! :-)

    The one I have is printed on a Silky type Material, but I don't think its Silk, its somewhat heavier material, this made me a bit sceptical as the screen used one really "flowed" when dropped on the table, secondly, looking at the screenshots I made, the one on screen had the printing shining through to the other side, (the paint probably seeped through) this one is only printed on top and nothing shimmers through.

    see pics

    This is the Silk I bought (Looks shinier than it is.... is actually matt like screen shot.)

    DSCF3341.jpg

    This is the screen shot...

    vlcsnap_00057.jpg


    Can anyone help..??


    Well firstly its very difficult to tell from pics.

    However yours are good enough to identify a couple of things.

    1 this is not the item in the screenshot...the cut of the material is completely different around the 8 o'clock mark ( assuming a clock face)
    2 the material looks wrong - your suspicions are right about the shimmer and translucence.
    3 as a prop it's probably only worth a couple of hundred pounds max.... Not really worth knocking off but hey there are some who have done bulk knockoffs of dad door cards etc...

    So I'm sorry to say but id guess it's a knockoff.

    Cheers
  • minigeffminigeff EnglandPosts: 7,884MI6 Agent
    i'd agree with what paul is saying here, also consider these points;

    the printing itself looks too white, i know the screeen grab is a low light condition, but even so, the original looks a darker shade, not white, maybe a 20% grey?

    the material looks too cheap and shiny. often replica prop makers use cheap alternatives for materials, and it doesn't pay off.

    the cut edge looks too over done for my liking.

    also props like this are rare, as in there'd be 2 or 3 at the most made for filming. think about when the film was made, and also that items like this are easy to pocket and quick and easy to dispose of, so the chances of this being the item on screen popping up on the grid are very very slim. most items like this go into collections of people with the right connections and disappear for a while and hardly seen or heard of again.

    sorry pal, but i'd say you've got a fake there and depending on numbers made will show whether it was a bargain or not. if it's screen printed, chances are someones done a run as setting up a screen printer for just one would be too much hassle than what you'd be able to charge for it. say it's one of 50 or so, i wouldn't recommend paying more than £50.

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  • KleynenKleynen BelgiumPosts: 396MI6 Agent
    I made a few replicas for friends.
    But this one is not mine. I would also NEVER claim it to be real.
  • nms75nms75 United KingdomPosts: 1,233MI6 Agent
    As mentioned above it is very difficult to tell from photos but in my mind the print is too white to be the original. That said it does look good so why not get it framed and just enjoy it as a Bond related dcoration? :)

    NMS
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  • modelmaker007modelmaker007 GermanyPosts: 117MI6 Agent
    Thanks for your feedback guys. after looking at the points you've made and what I already doubted, I think it looks like I'll be returning this and getting a refund.

    nms75... If it had only cost a fiver I would have just kept it as a display.... but it didn't :-)

    thanks again boys
  • bondpropfanbondpropfan Southern UKPosts: 288MI6 Agent
    Hi fellas

    I too have a silk from TWINE mine was mounted which has been removed. The plums actually glued it......

    The silk feels real with a nylon backing for strength. The logo looks like a rollered stencil and as you can see the star is slighty sloping.. Any clues???


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  • minigeffminigeff EnglandPosts: 7,884MI6 Agent
    Clues? Erm, they're right in front of you and or pen very largsh doors.
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  • minigeffminigeff EnglandPosts: 7,884MI6 Agent
    How much you pay for it bondpropfan?
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  • bondpropfanbondpropfan Southern UKPosts: 288MI6 Agent
    I think it was about 40, quite a while back..
  • minigeffminigeff EnglandPosts: 7,884MI6 Agent
    Oh def not screen used then :))
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