End Clothing was supposed to ship late January, but I haven't received word from them yet. I e-mailed to ask if there was any new information, and they said there's been a delay from Barbour till mid-February. Looks like I'll be getting the Blu-Ray before the jacket, LOL.
I don't completely understand spacing either .... I think the top of the three big buttons should be roughly along side the chest pocket button and the bottom button should be in line with the bellow pocket buttons.... That's how my jacket is ... Gents please correct me if I'm wrong
far as I see it SA has last button in line with top of pockets, other versions such as mine, the button is lower about mid way down from the top of the pocket (length wise obviously)
The way the new ones are tagged on the inside seems different. The one I just received has a "made in Bulgaria" tag. Do others have this?
I can't find a Made in Bulgaria tag in mine. In fact, can't find a Made anywhere tag.
But I did find a little white tag in the inside pocket showing the date of manufacture as 03/12.
My goodstead order arrived a few days ago but I didn't get home til today. Here's a pic of the button placement, these aren't correct are they?
Medium jacket, the measurements are:
pit to pit: 20.75"
pit to bottom of jacket: 19.5"
pit seam to sleeve end 19.5"
top of shoulder to sleeve end 26"
last button to bottom of jacket 7"
last button to middle button 5.75"
middle button to top button 5.75"
Here's a fit pic:
I'm 5'8", 160lbs, 37" chest 32" waist and I think it fits fine, except the sleeves are too long. They feel like the ones I tried on in J.crew in November. In store, the small I could barely squeeze in but the medium was fine.
Can people who have a jacket from the new batch post some good, clear pics of jackets with correct button placement versus incorrect. Including the coat size as well as where it was purchased may also help.
My goodstead order arrived a few days ago but I didn't get home til today. Here's a pic of the button placement, these aren't correct are they?
Here's a fit pic:
I'm 5'8", 160lbs, 37" chest 32" waist
The bottom button should be slightly nearer the middle button! But it's only a minor difference. The jacket still looks amazing!
Agreed! The buttons don't appear to be in screen accurate position but more important it really fits you well! I don't think everyone on here can say that.
My goodstead order arrived a few days ago but I didn't get home til today. Here's a pic of the button placement, these aren't correct are they?
Here's a fit pic:
I'm 5'8", 160lbs, 37" chest 32" waist
The bottom button should be slightly nearer the middle button! But it's only a minor difference. The jacket still looks amazing!
Agreed! The buttons don't appear to be in screen accurate position but more important it really fits you well! I don't think everyone on here can say that.
Technically no, but who gives a crap it looks good. we aren't going to become Bond wearing the jacket, the important thing is to feel a bit Bond- like and to be the kind of man he is.
yeah, SA buttons dont really even matter to me personally. Although the sleeve length is rather long...
DC Bond doesn't fasten the bottom button on coats, so no worries. Barbour UK WILL alt the sleeves, but apart from re-waxing, they won't alter anything else on this style of coat!
DC Bond doesn't fasten the bottom button on coats, so no worries. Barbour UK WILL alt the sleeves, but apart from re-waxing, they won't alter anything else on this style of coat!
DC actually does button the bottom 2 in the movie. In the promo posters he buttons the middle 2. You'll have to click on the first picture again when it opens up for full size to see it.
DC Bond doesn't fasten the bottom button on coats, so no worries. Barbour UK WILL alt the sleeves, but apart from re-waxing, they won't alter anything else on this style of coat!
DC actually does button the bottom 2 in the movie. In the promo posters he buttons the middle 2. You'll have to click on the first picture again when it opens up for full size to see it.
I was refering to as a rule of thumb DC has stated that he usually never buttons up the bottom button on jackets, Bond or real life.
Shost below are stills from Skyfall with it unbuttoned...
Here's a better picture of the jacket. For those of you who are interested in the measurements:
Medium Jacket:
pit to pit: 20.75"
pit to bottom of jacket: 19.5"
pit seam to sleeve end 19.5"
top of shoulder to sleeve end 26"
last button to bottom of jacket 7"
last button to middle button 5.75"
middle button to top button 5.75"
Looking at the pics, it seems obvious that Craig's has been altered. Did they have him in a size that fit through the body and they shortened it, or did the have a smaller one which had the back or the sides let out? That's the question. And I did read that he wore two different sizes depending on whether they were shooting an action scene (needs freedom of movement) or a "hero" scene (just needs to look good).
It is a large that has been tailored, you can see how it pulls on the shoulders. With his shoulder width and size, the medium would have looked too small and he would not have had any movement on the armpits, even if they let it out the back. These jackets are fitted on the shoulders and tight under the arms, if you have an athletic build. The fact that there were two makes sense, because some of the pics in the On set and through out the actual scene, the arms look bigger and the jacket less fitted. The jacket has also been shortened slightly, I would say about the stitched length of the hem at the bottom.
It is a large that has been tailored, you can see how it pulls on the shoulders. With his shoulder width and size, the medium would have looked too small and he would not have had any movement on the armpits, even if they let it out the back. These jackets are fitted on the shoulders and tight under the arms, if you have an athletic build. The fact that there were two makes sense, because some of the pics in the On set and through out the actual scene, the arms look bigger and the jacket less fitted. The jacket has also been shortened slightly, I would say about the stitched length of the hem at the bottom.
have to disagree with you on the sizing of Craigs. I am roughly Craigs size (same general build, same heigh although hes more buffed up but remember, he's not Body builder big, more leaned out like Pitt in Fight Club) and the measurements Ive seen of mediums would seem to fit fine. Its confirmed he wore a medium BR peacoat and they share roughly the same chest and shoulder to shoulder seam measurement across the back.
My BR peacoat measurements
Chest (armpit seam to armpit seam) 20.5 inches
Shoulder seam to shoulder seam across back: 18 Inches
purported Barbour Medium measurements
pit to pit: 20.75"
Shoulder to shoulder: 17.75-18 inches approx
And besides, Craig wore a Medium Levis LVC, a Medium BR peacoat so why not a Medium Barbour? Logic seems to make sense to me. Although I do agree that they followed the same routine of giving Craig and the stunt guys a large when doing action scenes they did that with the BR but in shots above, I assert that is definitely a medium.
It is a large that has been tailored, you can see how it pulls on the shoulders. With his shoulder width and size, the medium would have looked too small and he would not have had any movement on the armpits, even if they let it out the back. These jackets are fitted on the shoulders and tight under the arms, if you have an athletic build. The fact that there were two makes sense, because some of the pics in the On set and through out the actual scene, the arms look bigger and the jacket less fitted. The jacket has also been shortened slightly, I would say about the stitched length of the hem at the bottom.
have to disagree with you on the sizing of Craigs. I am roughly Craigs size (same general build, same heigh although hes more buffed up) and the measurements Ive seen of mediums would seem to fit fine. Its confirmed he wore a medium BR peacoat and they share roughly the same chest and shoulder to shoulder seam measurement across the back. And besides, Craig wore a Medium Levis LVC, a Medium BR peacoat so why not a Medium Barbour? Logic seems to make sense to me. Although I do agree that they followed the same routine of giving Craig and the stunt guys a large when doing action scenes they did that with the BR but in shots above, I assert that is definitely a medium.
Have you tried one on? I have similar measurements too although I'm taller (6'2). The medium is EXTREMELY tight in the armholes. Knowing that Craig is somewhat bulkier than me there's no way he's wearing the medium-I could barely get my arms in there and almost couldn't button the jacket. Craig had to have been wearing a large that was altered. These jackets are super tight up top.
It is a large that has been tailored, you can see how it pulls on the shoulders. With his shoulder width and size, the medium would have looked too small and he would not have had any movement on the armpits, even if they let it out the back. These jackets are fitted on the shoulders and tight under the arms, if you have an athletic build. The fact that there were two makes sense, because some of the pics in the On set and through out the actual scene, the arms look bigger and the jacket less fitted. The jacket has also been shortened slightly, I would say about the stitched length of the hem at the bottom.
have to disagree with you on the sizing of Craigs. I am roughly Craigs size (same general build, same heigh although hes more buffed up) and the measurements Ive seen of mediums would seem to fit fine. Its confirmed he wore a medium BR peacoat and they share roughly the same chest and shoulder to shoulder seam measurement across the back. And besides, Craig wore a Medium Levis LVC, a Medium BR peacoat so why not a Medium Barbour? Logic seems to make sense to me. Although I do agree that they followed the same routine of giving Craig and the stunt guys a large when doing action scenes they did that with the BR but in shots above, I assert that is definitely a medium.
Have you tried one on? I have similar measurements too although I'm taller (6'2). The medium is EXTREMELY tight in the armholes. Knowing that Craig is somewhat bulkier than me there's no way he's wearing the medium-I could barely get my arms in there and almost couldn't button the jacket. Craig had to have been wearing a large that was altered. These jackets are super tight up top.
I had read that he wore a Medium for the "hero" shots and a Large for the action shots, but I can't remember where I read that.
There's a lot of controversy about the Barbour sizing and IMHO Craig could indeed have worn a Medium, esp if the back or sides were let out. The "elbow patch" does not extend all the way down to the cuff and the unaltered sleeve is visible in the pic where Craig is standing next to the window with the gun over his shoulder. So I'm guessing that he wore a Medium with the sides or back let out (even forgetting about the sleeves, that would be easier than hemming the bottom, although how far the pockets are from the bottom hem would likely be the best way of judging).
Now, I have a Small and I'm 5'8-3/4" 165 pounds and muscular (I know a lot of guys like to THINK that they're muscular but what they really are is "husky"). To give some perspective, I have a 42" chest, 46-1/2" shoulders, and a 32" waist (I have 9% body fat). My Small is snug and a little tighter than SA but I can wear a dress shirt and mid-weight wool sweater under it. It's at the point where if I gain say 3 lbs of fat it would be too tight (as a long-term investment I could see myself losing muscle more than getting fat) but letting an inch out along the back or sides would make it fit very similar to the SA one. So I could very much see Craig having worn a Medium.
Furthermore I think the Levis LVC leather jacket is a good point that hints more towards a medium
the medium LVC Craig wears is very loose and falls off the shoulders.
The medium LVC jacket measurements are (from my own jacket which was from the same season craig wore)
chest (armpit to armpit across front) 21 Inches
Shoulder seam to shoulder seam across back: 19.5 (which is responsible for that droopy shoulder look)
Barbour Beacon Sports purported Large measurements
Pit-Pit 22"
Shoulder to shoulder 18.5
if you look at the fit of the leather compared to the fit of the barbour you can see the differences. The levis is loose and the measurements of the large barbour are bigger than that which doesnt make sense that he would be wearing a large considering the fit of the lodge jacket which, as you can plainly see, is very fitted. Again, the smoking gun is, IMHO, he wore a medium in two other of his jackets (both with different types of fits) so it leads me to believe he wore a Medium. the measurements speak for themselves...AS for tailoring, we never really see the inside of the jacket. Maybe they took out the lining...
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So mates, they should have one more large in stock!
1.SF 2.CR 3.OHMSS 4.DN 5.YOLT
I can't find a Made in Bulgaria tag in mine. In fact, can't find a Made anywhere tag.
But I did find a little white tag in the inside pocket showing the date of manufacture as 03/12.
Medium jacket, the measurements are:
pit to pit: 20.75"
pit to bottom of jacket: 19.5"
pit seam to sleeve end 19.5"
top of shoulder to sleeve end 26"
last button to bottom of jacket 7"
last button to middle button 5.75"
middle button to top button 5.75"
Here's a fit pic:
I'm 5'8", 160lbs, 37" chest 32" waist and I think it fits fine, except the sleeves are too long. They feel like the ones I tried on in J.crew in November. In store, the small I could barely squeeze in but the medium was fine.
The bottom button should be slightly nearer the middle button! But it's only a minor difference. The jacket still looks amazing!
Agreed! The buttons don't appear to be in screen accurate position but more important it really fits you well! I don't think everyone on here can say that.
1.SF 2.CR 3.OHMSS 4.DN 5.YOLT
Technically no, but who gives a crap it looks good. we aren't going to become Bond wearing the jacket, the important thing is to feel a bit Bond- like and to be the kind of man he is.
DC Bond doesn't fasten the bottom button on coats, so no worries. Barbour UK WILL alt the sleeves, but apart from re-waxing, they won't alter anything else on this style of coat!
DC actually does button the bottom 2 in the movie. In the promo posters he buttons the middle 2. You'll have to click on the first picture again when it opens up for full size to see it.
I was refering to as a rule of thumb DC has stated that he usually never buttons up the bottom button on jackets, Bond or real life.
Shost below are stills from Skyfall with it unbuttoned...
Medium Jacket:
pit to pit: 20.75"
pit to bottom of jacket: 19.5"
pit seam to sleeve end 19.5"
top of shoulder to sleeve end 26"
last button to bottom of jacket 7"
last button to middle button 5.75"
middle button to top button 5.75"
Edit: Indeed he switches to the middle 2 buttons right after the scene where Kincaid saws off his shotgun barrels.
Looking at the pics, it seems obvious that Craig's has been altered. Did they have him in a size that fit through the body and they shortened it, or did the have a smaller one which had the back or the sides let out? That's the question. And I did read that he wore two different sizes depending on whether they were shooting an action scene (needs freedom of movement) or a "hero" scene (just needs to look good).
have to disagree with you on the sizing of Craigs. I am roughly Craigs size (same general build, same heigh although hes more buffed up but remember, he's not Body builder big, more leaned out like Pitt in Fight Club) and the measurements Ive seen of mediums would seem to fit fine. Its confirmed he wore a medium BR peacoat and they share roughly the same chest and shoulder to shoulder seam measurement across the back.
My BR peacoat measurements
Chest (armpit seam to armpit seam) 20.5 inches
Shoulder seam to shoulder seam across back: 18 Inches
purported Barbour Medium measurements
pit to pit: 20.75"
Shoulder to shoulder: 17.75-18 inches approx
And besides, Craig wore a Medium Levis LVC, a Medium BR peacoat so why not a Medium Barbour? Logic seems to make sense to me. Although I do agree that they followed the same routine of giving Craig and the stunt guys a large when doing action scenes they did that with the BR but in shots above, I assert that is definitely a medium.
Have you tried one on? I have similar measurements too although I'm taller (6'2). The medium is EXTREMELY tight in the armholes. Knowing that Craig is somewhat bulkier than me there's no way he's wearing the medium-I could barely get my arms in there and almost couldn't button the jacket. Craig had to have been wearing a large that was altered. These jackets are super tight up top.
I had read that he wore a Medium for the "hero" shots and a Large for the action shots, but I can't remember where I read that.
There's a lot of controversy about the Barbour sizing and IMHO Craig could indeed have worn a Medium, esp if the back or sides were let out. The "elbow patch" does not extend all the way down to the cuff and the unaltered sleeve is visible in the pic where Craig is standing next to the window with the gun over his shoulder. So I'm guessing that he wore a Medium with the sides or back let out (even forgetting about the sleeves, that would be easier than hemming the bottom, although how far the pockets are from the bottom hem would likely be the best way of judging).
Now, I have a Small and I'm 5'8-3/4" 165 pounds and muscular (I know a lot of guys like to THINK that they're muscular but what they really are is "husky"). To give some perspective, I have a 42" chest, 46-1/2" shoulders, and a 32" waist (I have 9% body fat). My Small is snug and a little tighter than SA but I can wear a dress shirt and mid-weight wool sweater under it. It's at the point where if I gain say 3 lbs of fat it would be too tight (as a long-term investment I could see myself losing muscle more than getting fat) but letting an inch out along the back or sides would make it fit very similar to the SA one. So I could very much see Craig having worn a Medium.
the medium LVC Craig wears is very loose and falls off the shoulders.
The medium LVC jacket measurements are (from my own jacket which was from the same season craig wore)
chest (armpit to armpit across front) 21 Inches
Shoulder seam to shoulder seam across back: 19.5 (which is responsible for that droopy shoulder look)
Barbour Beacon Sports purported Large measurements
Pit-Pit 22"
Shoulder to shoulder 18.5
if you look at the fit of the leather compared to the fit of the barbour you can see the differences. The levis is loose and the measurements of the large barbour are bigger than that which doesnt make sense that he would be wearing a large considering the fit of the lodge jacket which, as you can plainly see, is very fitted. Again, the smoking gun is, IMHO, he wore a medium in two other of his jackets (both with different types of fits) so it leads me to believe he wore a Medium. the measurements speak for themselves...AS for tailoring, we never really see the inside of the jacket. Maybe they took out the lining...