Does anyone here besides me think The Living Daylights was one of the best bond movies? I loved Dalton I wish he would have been Bond for more movies.
You're not the only one.
The Living Daylights is the only Bond film not made in the 1960s to feature in my personal top six. It is terrific, and Dalton as Bond is as close to Fleming's Bond as any other actor has ever got. In terms of accuracy of portrayal and being true to the Fleming Bond character concept, Dalton has got it down to a T.
Just curious, did anyone else think "The Living Daylights" was a stupid name for a Bond movie before you saw it? I sure did.
Nope.
What's wrong with the title? It's the title to an Ian Fleming Bond short story. For me, The Living Daylights is certainly a better title than Skyfall or Die Another Day ...
Subject change- I absolutely LOVE this line from the film, as well as Dalton's delivery of it:
"STUFF my orders! I only kill professionals. That girl didn't know one end of her rifle from the other. Go ahead. Tell M what you want. If he fires me, I'll thank him for it."
That was a 'whoah' moment for me. -{
For me as well, perfect, pure Bond in a sentence. Captures his moral code, rebellious nature, and jaundice /internal conflict re his role. A standout moment.
"perfect, pure Bond in a sentence" that's uncommonly well put! -{
I didn't know there was another version... just listened to it now. Not bad. It's more a-ha themselves than bondian. But that's fair enough. I still prefer the version used on the film though
I, too, was struck by that line. I think that was the moment I was convinced we were in for something different. And I was pleasantly surprised when it turned out I was right!
Subject change- I absolutely LOVE this line from the film, as well as Dalton's delivery of it:
"STUFF my orders! I only kill professionals. That girl didn't know one end of her rifle from the other. Go ahead. Tell M what you want. If he fires me, I'll thank him for it."
That was a 'whoah' moment for me. -{
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Bondtoys & David Schofield -
could the pair of you please take your problems to PM - and feel free to contact any Mod about this if you so wish.
But I would like to keep this thread free for the current discussion...
"STUFF my orders! I only kill professionals. That girl didn't know one end of her rifle from the other. Go ahead. Tell M what you want. If he fires me, I'll thank him for it."
Brilliant line, perfectly delivered. -{
and much as I love Sir Roger, It did headline the fact that we where getting
a harded edged Bond, and IMHO the best interpretation from the Bond of
the Novels to the screen. B-)
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Sir Miles, what did YOU think of the line from TLD presently being discussed?
I'm biased as I think Dalton made a fantastic Bond....and TLD is a pretty fine film too...with that line being one of the best - and delivered superbly -{
I'd like to ask opinions about the scene where he tells Kara to buy the dress, that schoolboy-with-a-crush intensity (or, "misty eyes" as some here refer to it as ) ) he employs, is that part of the 'act' Bond is putting on for her? That's my take because seconds before he's with her we see an all-business Bond...
TLD is near the top of my Bond film list, because they tried to make the story more realistic and Dalton came closest in the looks and behavior department when it came to portraying Fleming's idea of Bond. Were he a young man now and was in Craig's place, I think he could have done just as convincing a job in Craig's entries.
Yes, the villians were weak. Pushkin would have made a better villain then Baker. The problem with Baker is he never comes across to me as being overly bright. More like a cigar chewing Army sergeant than a CIA operative or Whitaker. They needed someone more real and sinister and convincing like Javier Bardem (I know, he was too young for that role at that time, but they needed an actor similar to that).
I had no problems with the Kara character. Not all Bond women are supposed to be tough and independent..it's just a lot of the public (particularly the younger crowd) and the modern press have been fed that idea for years, sort of like Bond always drinking martinis and champagne. It's part of the iconic image built up over the years from the producers sticking to what I call the "Bond Cinematic Rule Book".
Sure Kara is one of the least independent and innocent of Bond's female companions, but that was the whole point of the character. She was easily manipulated and that's the type of person Koskov needed. I give d'Abo points for making her seem innocent and she made be believe her character. In fact, the Vienna scenes were some of my favorites, because it showed Bond's "lighter" side - actually enjoying himself on a type of "date"(even if the purpose for Bond is to win her confidence and get information), which is something you rarely see. I actually wish she had made more large released films, so I could have seen her in different roles.
It's a pity the writers were still hardwired into putting in the broad, eye winking humor from the Moore films, as it was obvious Dalton was trying to play it more serious and had a lot of problems playing and fitting in those moments because they were so contrary to his (and Fleming's) idea of Bond's character. However, when I first saw the film in the theater, I was elated that the producers decided to go back to Fleming and cast an actor who not only looked so much like the character in my mind, but behaved like him.
It's a pity the writers were still hardwired into putting in the broad, eye winking humor from the Moore films, as it was obvious Dalton was trying to play it more serious and had a lot of problems playing and fitting in those moments because they were so contrary to his (and Fleming's) idea of Bond's character.
Having grown up with Moore's films, I actually appreciated a bit of that humour leftover- it never overpowered or interfered with the story for me. To this day, "We've nothing to declare" still makes me smile.
It's a pity the writers were still hardwired into putting in the broad, eye winking humor from the Moore films, as it was obvious Dalton was trying to play it more serious and had a lot of problems playing and fitting in those moments because they were so contrary to his (and Fleming's) idea of Bond's character.
Having grown up with Moore's films, I actually appreciated a bit of that humour leftover- it never overpowered or interfered with the story for me. To this day, "We've nothing to declare" still makes me smile.
Indeed.
Isn't running through walls and rippiing toilet door handles off straight from the Moore films?
You don't think they're examples of the over the top, this-isn't-really-for-real, humour the Moore films were famous for?
Ha ha, is this a trick question?
No...?
What I'm suggesting is Craig-Bond running through walls and breaking door handles off is just as daft as Rog's eyebrow
raising, corny humour and grandfather action-man schtick.
What I'm suggesting is Craig-Bond running through walls and breaking door handles off is just as daft as Rog's eyebrow
raising, corny humour and grandfather action-man schtick.
I cannot subscribe to that interpretation.
I've punched through drywall, and twisted open (& OFF)a locked doorknob with my hands only, and I'm no superman.
What I'm suggesting is Craig-Bond running through walls and breaking door handles off is just as daft as Rog's eyebrow
raising, corny humour and grandfather action-man schtick.
I cannot subscribe to that interpretation.
I've punched through drywall, and twisted open (& OFF)a locked doorknob with my hands only, and I'm no superman.
But why? Why would that be done in a Bond film for anything other than laughs????
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You're not the only one.
The Living Daylights is the only Bond film not made in the 1960s to feature in my personal top six. It is terrific, and Dalton as Bond is as close to Fleming's Bond as any other actor has ever got. In terms of accuracy of portrayal and being true to the Fleming Bond character concept, Dalton has got it down to a T.
Nope.
What's wrong with the title? It's the title to an Ian Fleming Bond short story. For me, The Living Daylights is certainly a better title than Skyfall or Die Another Day ...
And Dalton was a perfect Bond.
1 - Moore, 2 - Dalton, 3 - Craig, 4 - Connery, 5 - Brosnan, 6 - Lazenby
Dalton - the weak and weepy Bond!
"perfect, pure Bond in a sentence" that's uncommonly well put! -{
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I didn't know there was another version... just listened to it now. Not bad. It's more a-ha themselves than bondian. But that's fair enough. I still prefer the version used on the film though
1 - Moore, 2 - Dalton, 3 - Craig, 4 - Connery, 5 - Brosnan, 6 - Lazenby
I thought the title was pretty neat, too.
could the pair of you please take your problems to PM - and feel free to contact any Mod about this if you so wish.
But I would like to keep this thread free for the current discussion...
Thank you both -{
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You may also change my username to that :v
Dalton - the weak and weepy Bond!
Brilliant line, perfectly delivered. -{
and much as I love Sir Roger, It did headline the fact that we where getting
a harded edged Bond, and IMHO the best interpretation from the Bond of
the Novels to the screen. B-)
Roger Moore 1927-2017
Steady now, old chap...remember what happened to minigeff and his name change....you wouldn't want something like that now :v
Have you watched LTK ?
I'm biased as I think Dalton made a fantastic Bond....and TLD is a pretty fine film too...with that line being one of the best - and delivered superbly -{
Yeah, that was terrific, too bad that it was not permanently.
And let me say that he deserved i every minute
Dalton - the weak and weepy Bond!
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I prefer to call it the cutie-puppy-cuddly-snuggle view - everytime that he sees Kara
And it's just the "hardedge" that he promised us on his interpretation of Bond
Dalton - the weak and weepy Bond!
*shakes head*
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Yes, the villians were weak. Pushkin would have made a better villain then Baker. The problem with Baker is he never comes across to me as being overly bright. More like a cigar chewing Army sergeant than a CIA operative or Whitaker. They needed someone more real and sinister and convincing like Javier Bardem (I know, he was too young for that role at that time, but they needed an actor similar to that).
I had no problems with the Kara character. Not all Bond women are supposed to be tough and independent..it's just a lot of the public (particularly the younger crowd) and the modern press have been fed that idea for years, sort of like Bond always drinking martinis and champagne. It's part of the iconic image built up over the years from the producers sticking to what I call the "Bond Cinematic Rule Book".
Sure Kara is one of the least independent and innocent of Bond's female companions, but that was the whole point of the character. She was easily manipulated and that's the type of person Koskov needed. I give d'Abo points for making her seem innocent and she made be believe her character. In fact, the Vienna scenes were some of my favorites, because it showed Bond's "lighter" side - actually enjoying himself on a type of "date"(even if the purpose for Bond is to win her confidence and get information), which is something you rarely see. I actually wish she had made more large released films, so I could have seen her in different roles.
It's a pity the writers were still hardwired into putting in the broad, eye winking humor from the Moore films, as it was obvious Dalton was trying to play it more serious and had a lot of problems playing and fitting in those moments because they were so contrary to his (and Fleming's) idea of Bond's character. However, when I first saw the film in the theater, I was elated that the producers decided to go back to Fleming and cast an actor who not only looked so much like the character in my mind, but behaved like him.
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Indeed.
Isn't running through walls and rippiing toilet door handles off straight from the Moore films?
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Agreed totally - and it works well in that. We're banging on about TLD here!
Roger Moore 1927-2017
You don't think they're examples of the over the top, this-isn't-really-for-real, humour the Moore films were famous for?
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No...?
What I'm suggesting is Craig-Bond running through walls and breaking door handles off is just as daft as Rog's eyebrow
raising, corny humour and grandfather action-man schtick.
I've punched through drywall, and twisted open (& OFF)a locked doorknob with my hands only, and I'm no superman.
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But why? Why would that be done in a Bond film for anything other than laughs????
Rog-Bond lives.