I think that this thread has rather gone off course - see the one over on CBn for how it should have went instead. I wanted to discuss Bondian links back to fox hunting and spy thrillers with fgox hunting in them, but instead I'm attacked on all sides and get sick jokes instead. How disappointing...
Yeah but your thread is titled 'your views on fox hunting', so what did you expect?
As HB dutifully points out, it's forbidden for topics to wander off, even more so if people include humour.
Apologies all round for even using AJB, nice one HB, this personal mission of yours against anyone having a laugh is seriously running AJB into the ground.
Watch it, mate. I've had just about enough of your views. You're the one who's made this thread almost unbearable. I think you need to seriously think about your future on this site.
"The tough man of the world. The Secret Agent. The man who was only a silhouette." - Ian Fleming, Moonraker (1955).
Silhouette ManThe last refuge of a scoundrelPosts: 8,828MI6 Agent
I think that this thread has rather gone off course - see the one over on CBn for how it should have went instead. I wanted to discuss Bondian links back to fox hunting and spy thrillers with fgox hunting in them, but instead I'm attacked on all sides and get sick jokes instead. How disappointing...
Well you didn't really ask for Bondian links to foxhunting did you..?...you asked for members opinions on foxhunting and bloodsports in general...and at AJB it is obviously a touchy subject...and one I very nearly deleted before a response was given - these types of topics only tend to go one way in the end...
Well, I'm very sorry. I have edited the topic: I now want Bond-related links to hunting and fox hunting here.
"The tough man of the world. The Secret Agent. The man who was only a silhouette." - Ian Fleming, Moonraker (1955).
Silhouette ManThe last refuge of a scoundrelPosts: 8,828MI6 Agent
Yeah, let's all have a laugh (at other people's expense). Now back to the topic at hand, please....
"The tough man of the world. The Secret Agent. The man who was only a silhouette." - Ian Fleming, Moonraker (1955).
Silhouette ManThe last refuge of a scoundrelPosts: 8,828MI6 Agent
I think that this thread has rather gone off course - see the one over on CBn for how it should have went instead. I wanted to discuss Bondian links back to fox hunting and spy thrillers with fgox hunting in them, but instead I'm attacked on all sides and get sick jokes instead. How disappointing...
It's the usual group at it again, taking over a thread and making it all about their usual oh-so-funny concerns.
To try to get this back on course, I'll say that I support hunting if the hunter actually uses the prey for food and clothing (in Texas, deer hunting is very popular and usually the hunters like their venison and deer jerky); but game hunting leaves me cold. I'm especially appalled by ivory hunters who destroy magnificent elephants just for their tusks and sailors from certain countries (cough--Japan--cough) who flout international regulations and hunt whales.
As for Bond connections. . .well, hunts have figured in a few films but I don't think Ian Fleming used them in his novels. Still, I recognize that the image of the "hunted" spy is a common one, and that you can find fox hunts all over British lit. One of my favorite Victorians, Anthony Trollope, was an enthusiastic fox hunter and he put hunts in a few of his novels--described in nauseating detail.
So, long story short: I respect fox hunting's role in British history and culture, but I'm opposed to it, and I think it's one of those things that should be a part of the past.
Thank you for your support, Hardyboy - we need members like you here to keep things in check at AJB.
"The tough man of the world. The Secret Agent. The man who was only a silhouette." - Ian Fleming, Moonraker (1955).
Okay, very seriously, I see no connection between fox hunting & Bond, and the idea that fox hunting is a sport is ridiculous. 'Sport' implies competition with others or yourself; tearing apart a small canid achieves neither.
Try skeet shooting or Polo instead.
Not fox hunting, But In Moonraker when Drax offers Bond some Good sport shooting pheasants.
Bond replies " Not if you're a Pheasant ", Which I always took to mean Bond wasn't a Fan.
"I've been informed that there ARE a couple of QAnon supporters who are fairly regular posters in AJB."
Sir MilesThe Wrong Side Of The WardrobePosts: 27,443Chief of Staff
I think that this thread has rather gone off course - see the one over on CBn for how it should have went instead. I wanted to discuss Bondian links back to fox hunting and spy thrillers with fgox hunting in them, but instead I'm attacked on all sides and get sick jokes instead. How disappointing...
Well you didn't really ask for Bondian links to foxhunting did you..?...you asked for members opinions on foxhunting and bloodsports in general...and at AJB it is obviously a touchy subject...and one I very nearly deleted before a response was given - these types of topics only tend to go one way in the end...
Well, I'm very sorry. I have edited the topic: I now want Bond-related links to hunting and fox hunting here.
Why have a go at me ? I didn't get the topic wrong...
I'll leave this thread to HB then as you obviously only value his opinion.
Okay, very seriously, I see no connection between fox hunting & Bond, and the idea that fox hunting is a sport is ridiculous. 'Sport' implies competition with others or yourself; tearing apart a small canid achieves neither.
Try skeet shooting or Polo instead.
1. This is in the OFF TOPIC section, meaning that its for non-bond discussions. 2. I agree with the fact that you guys are derailing threads way too often recently, sometimes you guys are funny but alot of the time its just annoying.
Okay, very seriously, I see no connection between fox hunting & Bond, and the idea that fox hunting is a sport is ridiculous. 'Sport' implies competition with others or yourself; tearing apart a small canid achieves neither.
Try skeet shooting or Polo instead.
1. This is in the OFF TOPIC section, meaning that its for non-bond discussions. 2. I agree with the fact that you guys are derailing threads way too often recently, sometimes you guys are funny but alot of the time its just annoying.
I think that this thread has rather gone off course - see the one over on CBn for how it should have went instead. I wanted to discuss Bondian links back to fox hunting and spy thrillers with fgox hunting in them, but instead I'm attacked on all sides and get sick jokes instead. How disappointing...
Yeah but your thread is titled 'your views on fox hunting', so what did you expect?
As HB dutifully points out, it's forbidden for topics to wander off, even more so if people include humour.
Apologies all round for even using AJB, nice one HB, this personal mission of yours against anyone having a laugh is seriously running AJB into the ground.
Watch it, mate. I've had just about enough of your views. You're the one who's made this thread almost unbearable. I think you need to seriously think about your future on this site.
Who the hell are you exactly?
Watch it? ) or what? Watch what even? If you have an issue with my views on anything, gimme a pm about it. Telling me to 'watch it' is just laughable and as daft and childish as some of my comments (and that's going some). What's the next step, threats of coming round to kick my arse in, or yo momma jokes?
And making this thread almost unbearable? Unbearable? Do you even know what that means? Having your family murdered in front of you, that'd be unbearable, watching a loved one die from an uncureable disease, that's unbearable. Have your thread go off topic, that's just slightly annoying AND fixable. Get your crap in perspective. I've started many threads that have gone off topic and disintegrated into daft jokes and lewd comments (Christ don't mention buttplugs) and I never complained once, even though sometimes it was a little annoying, why? Because **** happens and people tend to wander off topic, it's called a discussion, it's how these conversation things work and its within people's nature to go off topic and the thread to go into other things.
And whats this crap about you think i should review my future on ajb? Quite simply; What. The. ****?
I've been here for a few years now, but have never lost sight that at the end of it this is a Bond forum, it is not my life, it is not all that matters to me and some, (that'd be you included by the way) seem to take it all rather too seriously. A topic slides and the rattles fly.
Another thing that makes me chuckle is the arse-puckering cringeworthy pat on the arse to HB. "We'll done HB, we all need you to keep ajb in check". Christ I think I'm gonna vomit.
Not knocking HB, or any of the other mods, yes I agree they do have a difficult task and generally do a good job. But to have a snap at people then publicly go arse kissing others is just so damn childish it makes me question your mentality.
Seriously, any issues, don't be daft, just pm me.
It's never my intention to fall out with people but on the flip side, don't go telling me to 'watch it'.
I actually wouldn't welcome that (not that that'd change any mods mind ) ) cos I think it'd be good for all involved for things to calm down and the topic return to the original thread.
I actually wouldn't welcome that (not that that'd change any mods mind ) ) cos I think it'd be good for all involved for things to calm down and the topic return to the original thread.
I find this thread quite entertaining, and wouldn't close it myself. )
But Sir Miles had it right IMO in that in the long run good things never come from threads like these.
When the fox is dead, most hunts cut off the tail (‘brush’), the feet (‘pads’) and the head (‘mask’) as trophies. The carcass is then thrown to the hounds. Some hunts also indulge in the practice of ‘blooding’ — the smearing of fresh fox blood on the faces of those, usually children, who have witnessed their first kill.
And they call them selves Human.
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I was taken on a fox hunt when I was twelve as my old man was a prominent member of the hunt. I was bloodied and had enough Islay single malt to send me squiffy for a week at that age. It was far more disgusting than anyone could imagine. It isn't a fast kill, in fact, far from it. The fox is eviscerated whilst very much alive. One animal had it's face ripped open and it's eye and ear completely removed, half scalped and left that way as the hounds fought over the pieces for a good few minutes before retuning to the fox which was still crawling on it's belly into the gorse as it tried to escape the torment.
I've shot foxes, but hunting with hounds isn't for me.
Witnessing/being part of such a thing when young will inevitably either make you love or hate it.
My school went on a field trip to a slaughter house when I was seven. Wonder not then why I eat no mammals.
However, there are those that hold that cruelty is the way of life, and to deny it is being false.
I don't deny it, I merely reject it.
Thought i'd have a flick back here to review some of my previous unbearable posts. It might be a little confusing to some, looking back, to actually figure out my stance on the whole fox hunting debate.
Well, put simply, its this; i'm not a fan, nor do i follow any hunt, or wish to see it brought back in it's original form. on the flip side, if it was still around, it wouldn't effect my day to day life.
now you might think that sounds a little cruel, unfair (enter negative phrase here) etc etc. but i look at it this way, fox hunting, while it was going on didn't play any part in my life, but i was still aware of it. i was also aware of elephant hunting, japanese whaling, spanish bullfighting, indian tigers being shot, bear hunting, animal circuses, the russian dancing bears and polar bears all being forced toward extinction.
all these things, i feel, are terrible and need to be stopped. i try and do my bit by donating to charities who fight these barbaric ways of treating animals, my wife supports WWF and I give to the RSPCA to help with animals here back in the uk.
but all these things continue, maybe less than before, but they do still go on. its a fact of life and i don't think any of these things will disappear completely, which is why i don't let it bother me that much.
just because fox hunting happens in my native uk, it doesn't make it any more important or more just a cause. all mistreatment of animals is wrong.
however, i was brought up in the country and i do shoot (target shooting only) so when it comes to guns, shooting and hunting i do know about it and people who take part.
there is a very real difference between shooting anything that moves and proper management of land and livestock. i believe that if you go hunting, you shoot professionally (ie no 'shoot n hope' shots), you shoot responsibly and within the law, PLUS you shoot what you want to eat, take it home n tuck in. there is no point bagging 15 bunnies only to throw them in a hedgerow and not take any home to avoid messy fingers. if you're gonna do it, do it right.
now i'm not condoning any of the aforementioned mistreatments of animals, but i will say one thing about these 'activists'.
when the hangun ban came in, there was a group started up (which i wont name as they don't deserve the publicity) who lobbied hard to get all shooting banned. their views were very bias, due to many of the group's members having lost a loved one in some form of gun crime. never the less, they campaigned to get the whole sport of shooting banned. now don't get wrong, to loose a loved one in any circumstance is terrible, even more so when its a complete waste of life like these gang wars you hear of in the smoke, kids killing each other over their patches of 'turf' in the city. pointless. but when people become emotionally involved, it DOES sway their opinion and can make fair and balanced judgement turn into bias stubborn and very often, UNINFORMED campaigns.
the same applies of course for fox hunting. i've seen footage of 'animal rights activists' hitting horse in a hunt, pulling riders from horses and beating them, scaring horse to put them off the hunt, which is extremely dangerous to both horse and rider. so i can't understand these people when they call themselves 'animal rights activists' as they seem to care for one animal and not another.
i just wish, before people start getting on their high horse (see what i did there? ) they would learn some facts, EXPERIENCE FOR THEMSELVES if they can, what its like for real and pack in making comments based on bias propaganda from websites. take on board info from BOTH SIDES before making decisions. people who shoot are not gun toting trigger happy mad men like the media would have you believe.
as for fox hunting playing a role in film, well i don't think anyone within their right mind would feature it in a film these days. its way too controversial and delicate to start using, as the film maker will insult or offend someone.
i think fox hunting, in its original form has played its part in society and is best left now in the past.
Silhouette ManThe last refuge of a scoundrelPosts: 8,828MI6 Agent
This thread should probably now be closed - it's really went off track now. What a mess a few idiots can make in a short space of time. Aggravating is not the word for some members here. Goodbye on this one and good luck.
"The tough man of the world. The Secret Agent. The man who was only a silhouette." - Ian Fleming, Moonraker (1955).
Silhouette ManThe last refuge of a scoundrelPosts: 8,828MI6 Agent
Well you didn't really ask for Bondian links to foxhunting did you..?...you asked for members opinions on foxhunting and bloodsports in general...and at AJB it is obviously a touchy subject...and one I very nearly deleted before a response was given - these types of topics only tend to go one way in the end...
Well, I'm very sorry. I have edited the topic: I now want Bond-related links to hunting and fox hunting here.
Why have a go at me ? I didn't get the topic wrong...
I'll leave this thread to HB then as you obviously only value his opinion.
Sir Miles, I apologise - I wasn't getting at you at all. I think you may have taken offence when I didn't mean for you to.
"The tough man of the world. The Secret Agent. The man who was only a silhouette." - Ian Fleming, Moonraker (1955).
Sir MilesThe Wrong Side Of The WardrobePosts: 27,443Chief of Staff
Well, I'm very sorry. I have edited the topic: I now want Bond-related links to hunting and fox hunting here.
Why have a go at me ? I didn't get the topic wrong...
I'll leave this thread to HB then as you obviously only value his opinion.
Sir Miles, I apologise - I wasn't getting at you at all. I think you may have taken offence when I didn't mean for you to.
Ok...no problem...but I think that typifies just how the written word can be misconstrued....
Why not carry on with this thread...see how it goes...it can always be closed later...
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Silhouette ManThe last refuge of a scoundrelPosts: 8,828MI6 Agent
edited September 2012
To Mr minigeff, I offer my sincere apologies for attacking you. I'm happy to leave things like this. I'd actually have come round to where you live and slapped you round your face, if you must know.
On unbearable: I had to watch my father in hospital with cancer at age 6, then he died when I was only 18 so I'd dare say I know about suffering alright.
Don't even go there. I doubt you've ever experienced what I have in my life. I didn't intend for this thread to go so off-track. I'm also rather shocked by the fact that language of the sort that you purvey here is allowed and is not censored on this forum. Coming over here again after a two-year spell has been a real eye-opener for me. If anyone has made this personal, I think you have Mr minigeff: it seems you wanted it this way!
I doubt I'll be posting in the 'Off Topic' area much again, or posting on AJB much again either, for that matter.
CBn is really the best Bond site in the world - coming back here has really reminded me of this fact.
Goodbye and good luck. Knock yourselves out now, won't you all? -{
"The tough man of the world. The Secret Agent. The man who was only a silhouette." - Ian Fleming, Moonraker (1955).
Why not carry on with this thread...see how it goes...it can always be closed later...
Well then... how about we turn this around? What do foxes do to other animals? Sweet little rabbits are routinely torn to shreds by foxes- not a fun way to go, I'm sure. So, the fox does not attack an equal, but an easy target. Foxes are bullies. So should we really even CARE about foxhunts? Payback's a bitch.*
You'll have noticed, mr silhouette, if you'd bothered to read my posts, that ive been simply engaging in your thread, not spamming it with loads of guff or bad humour.
You asked, initially, for people's views, you got them.
It's obvious you're writing an essay, which indicates you're a kid. And when you couldnt get us to write your homework, the rattle went airborne. Purely pathetic.
I even did my best to steer things back. I stated closing the thread wouldn't be my choice, and even spent a while posting a more in depth account of my thoughts on the thread topic.
What more did you want? Flowers?
Oh and you will come round and slap my face? Please, for christ's sake, get a grip kid, you're just making it worse for yourself.
If you intend on posting more threats of physical violence to me, or other members of ajb, then id say your 'input' here probably isn't welcome.
Cherio, petulant child. -{
Ps, I watched my dad die of cancer too, but I've NEVER thrown it in anyone's face, you utterly worthless piece of dirt. You ought to be ashamed of yourself. 'I doubt you've experienced what I have in life' really? REALLY?! How the hell would you know? You wouldn't have a clue what I've experienced in life, and besides, it irrelevant, I'm here to chat with friends and like minded people about bond, meet new mates (one member on here is what I'd class one my closest friends, all thanks to ajb) and a have a few giggles along the way.
I doubt I'll be posting in the 'Off Topic' area much again, or posting on AJB much again either, for that matter.
CBn is really the best Bond site in the world - coming back here has really reminded me of this fact.
Goodbye and good luck. Knock yourselves out.
If you enjoy the CBn forums then by all means go and enjoy them, because quite frankly that's what all forums should be about: enjoyment. Whether analysing, learning, venting, researching, chatting or laughing...it's all about enjoyment. However, If you're going to start a thread, then change it's direction at post 25, then complain that it's been derailed, threaten other members, apologise, then when it gets back on track suggest that it should be closed, I think you may have a spot of bother and frustration in any forum.
I doubt I'll be posting in the 'Off Topic' area much again, or posting on AJB much again either, for that matter.
CBn is really the best Bond site in the world - coming back here has really reminded me of this fact.
Goodbye and good luck. Knock yourselves out.
If you enjoy the CBn forums then by all means go and enjoy them, because quite frankly that's what all forums should be about: enjoyment. Whether analysing, learning, venting, researching, chatting or laughing...it's all about enjoyment. However, If you're going to start a thread, then change it's direction at post 25, then complain that it's been derailed, threaten other members, apologise, then when it gets back on track suggest that it should be closed, I think you may have a spot of bother and frustration in any forum.
Silhouette ManThe last refuge of a scoundrelPosts: 8,828MI6 Agent
OK, I think that I've said my piece.
I'm not some kid doing my homework- how darew you accuse me of that!
I think the physical violence thing was meant as a little joke on my part - it's actually a full quote from Fonejacker! As a law graduate I think I know the law on assault and battery!
I just find it odd that people hijack threads in this way. There was a Bond reference in my first post in this thread if you actually went back and read it!
I wish you well, minigeff - sincerely I mean that. Can't we be friends again (if we ever were)?
Make tea, not war!
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Watch it, mate. I've had just about enough of your views. You're the one who's made this thread almost unbearable. I think you need to seriously think about your future on this site.
Well, I'm very sorry. I have edited the topic: I now want Bond-related links to hunting and fox hunting here.
Thank you for your support, Hardyboy - we need members like you here to keep things in check at AJB.
Try skeet shooting or Polo instead.
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Bond replies " Not if you're a Pheasant ", Which I always took to mean Bond wasn't a Fan.
Why have a go at me ? I didn't get the topic wrong...
I'll leave this thread to HB then as you obviously only value his opinion.
1. This is in the OFF TOPIC section, meaning that its for non-bond discussions. 2. I agree with the fact that you guys are derailing threads way too often recently, sometimes you guys are funny but alot of the time its just annoying.
1. This is in the OFF TOPIC section, meaning that its for non-bond discussions. 2. I agree with the fact that you guys are derailing threads way too often recently, sometimes you guys are funny but alot of the time its just annoying.
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Who the hell are you exactly?
Watch it?
And making this thread almost unbearable? Unbearable? Do you even know what that means? Having your family murdered in front of you, that'd be unbearable, watching a loved one die from an uncureable disease, that's unbearable. Have your thread go off topic, that's just slightly annoying AND fixable. Get your crap in perspective. I've started many threads that have gone off topic and disintegrated into daft jokes and lewd comments (Christ don't mention buttplugs) and I never complained once, even though sometimes it was a little annoying, why? Because **** happens and people tend to wander off topic, it's called a discussion, it's how these conversation things work and its within people's nature to go off topic and the thread to go into other things.
And whats this crap about you think i should review my future on ajb? Quite simply; What. The. ****?
I've been here for a few years now, but have never lost sight that at the end of it this is a Bond forum, it is not my life, it is not all that matters to me and some, (that'd be you included by the way) seem to take it all rather too seriously. A topic slides and the rattles fly.
Another thing that makes me chuckle is the arse-puckering cringeworthy pat on the arse to HB. "We'll done HB, we all need you to keep ajb in check". Christ I think I'm gonna vomit.
Not knocking HB, or any of the other mods, yes I agree they do have a difficult task and generally do a good job. But to have a snap at people then publicly go arse kissing others is just so damn childish it makes me question your mentality.
Seriously, any issues, don't be daft, just pm me.
It's never my intention to fall out with people but on the flip side, don't go telling me to 'watch it'.
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I actually wouldn't welcome that (not that that'd change any mods mind
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But Sir Miles had it right IMO in that in the long run good things never come from threads like these.
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And they call them selves Human.
I was taken on a fox hunt when I was twelve as my old man was a prominent member of the hunt. I was bloodied and had enough Islay single malt to send me squiffy for a week at that age. It was far more disgusting than anyone could imagine. It isn't a fast kill, in fact, far from it. The fox is eviscerated whilst very much alive. One animal had it's face ripped open and it's eye and ear completely removed, half scalped and left that way as the hounds fought over the pieces for a good few minutes before retuning to the fox which was still crawling on it's belly into the gorse as it tried to escape the torment.
I've shot foxes, but hunting with hounds isn't for me.
My school went on a field trip to a slaughter house when I was seven. Wonder not then why I eat no mammals.
However, there are those that hold that cruelty is the way of life, and to deny it is being false.
I don't deny it, I merely reject it.
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Thought i'd have a flick back here to review some of my previous unbearable posts. It might be a little confusing to some, looking back, to actually figure out my stance on the whole fox hunting debate.
Well, put simply, its this; i'm not a fan, nor do i follow any hunt, or wish to see it brought back in it's original form. on the flip side, if it was still around, it wouldn't effect my day to day life.
now you might think that sounds a little cruel, unfair (enter negative phrase here) etc etc. but i look at it this way, fox hunting, while it was going on didn't play any part in my life, but i was still aware of it. i was also aware of elephant hunting, japanese whaling, spanish bullfighting, indian tigers being shot, bear hunting, animal circuses, the russian dancing bears and polar bears all being forced toward extinction.
all these things, i feel, are terrible and need to be stopped. i try and do my bit by donating to charities who fight these barbaric ways of treating animals, my wife supports WWF and I give to the RSPCA to help with animals here back in the uk.
but all these things continue, maybe less than before, but they do still go on. its a fact of life and i don't think any of these things will disappear completely, which is why i don't let it bother me that much.
just because fox hunting happens in my native uk, it doesn't make it any more important or more just a cause. all mistreatment of animals is wrong.
however, i was brought up in the country and i do shoot (target shooting only) so when it comes to guns, shooting and hunting i do know about it and people who take part.
there is a very real difference between shooting anything that moves and proper management of land and livestock. i believe that if you go hunting, you shoot professionally (ie no 'shoot n hope' shots), you shoot responsibly and within the law, PLUS you shoot what you want to eat, take it home n tuck in. there is no point bagging 15 bunnies only to throw them in a hedgerow and not take any home to avoid messy fingers. if you're gonna do it, do it right.
now i'm not condoning any of the aforementioned mistreatments of animals, but i will say one thing about these 'activists'.
when the hangun ban came in, there was a group started up (which i wont name as they don't deserve the publicity) who lobbied hard to get all shooting banned. their views were very bias, due to many of the group's members having lost a loved one in some form of gun crime. never the less, they campaigned to get the whole sport of shooting banned. now don't get wrong, to loose a loved one in any circumstance is terrible, even more so when its a complete waste of life like these gang wars you hear of in the smoke, kids killing each other over their patches of 'turf' in the city. pointless. but when people become emotionally involved, it DOES sway their opinion and can make fair and balanced judgement turn into bias stubborn and very often, UNINFORMED campaigns.
the same applies of course for fox hunting. i've seen footage of 'animal rights activists' hitting horse in a hunt, pulling riders from horses and beating them, scaring horse to put them off the hunt, which is extremely dangerous to both horse and rider. so i can't understand these people when they call themselves 'animal rights activists' as they seem to care for one animal and not another.
i just wish, before people start getting on their high horse (see what i did there?
as for fox hunting playing a role in film, well i don't think anyone within their right mind would feature it in a film these days. its way too controversial and delicate to start using, as the film maker will insult or offend someone.
i think fox hunting, in its original form has played its part in society and is best left now in the past.
MG -{
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Sir Miles, I apologise - I wasn't getting at you at all. I think you may have taken offence when I didn't mean for you to.
Ok...no problem...but I think that typifies just how the written word can be misconstrued....
Why not carry on with this thread...see how it goes...it can always be closed later...
On unbearable: I had to watch my father in hospital with cancer at age 6, then he died when I was only 18 so I'd dare say I know about suffering alright.
Don't even go there. I doubt you've ever experienced what I have in my life. I didn't intend for this thread to go so off-track. I'm also rather shocked by the fact that language of the sort that you purvey here is allowed and is not censored on this forum. Coming over here again after a two-year spell has been a real eye-opener for me. If anyone has made this personal, I think you have Mr minigeff: it seems you wanted it this way!
I doubt I'll be posting in the 'Off Topic' area much again, or posting on AJB much again either, for that matter.
CBn is really the best Bond site in the world - coming back here has really reminded me of this fact.
Goodbye and good luck. Knock yourselves out now, won't you all? -{
Well then... how about we turn this around? What do foxes do to other animals? Sweet little rabbits are routinely torn to shreds by foxes- not a fun way to go, I'm sure. So, the fox does not attack an equal, but an easy target. Foxes are bullies. So should we really even CARE about foxhunts? Payback's a bitch.*
*just playing Devil's Advocate :v
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You asked, initially, for people's views, you got them.
It's obvious you're writing an essay, which indicates you're a kid. And when you couldnt get us to write your homework, the rattle went airborne. Purely pathetic.
I even did my best to steer things back. I stated closing the thread wouldn't be my choice, and even spent a while posting a more in depth account of my thoughts on the thread topic.
What more did you want? Flowers?
Oh and you will come round and slap my face? Please, for christ's sake, get a grip kid, you're just making it worse for yourself.
If you intend on posting more threats of physical violence to me, or other members of ajb, then id say your 'input' here probably isn't welcome.
Cherio, petulant child. -{
Ps, I watched my dad die of cancer too, but I've NEVER thrown it in anyone's face, you utterly worthless piece of dirt. You ought to be ashamed of yourself. 'I doubt you've experienced what I have in life' really? REALLY?! How the hell would you know? You wouldn't have a clue what I've experienced in life, and besides, it irrelevant, I'm here to chat with friends and like minded people about bond, meet new mates (one member on here is what I'd class one my closest friends, all thanks to ajb) and a have a few giggles along the way.
So mr martyr, bite me.
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If you enjoy the CBn forums then by all means go and enjoy them, because quite frankly that's what all forums should be about: enjoyment. Whether analysing, learning, venting, researching, chatting or laughing...it's all about enjoyment. However, If you're going to start a thread, then change it's direction at post 25, then complain that it's been derailed, threaten other members, apologise, then when it gets back on track suggest that it should be closed, I think you may have a spot of bother and frustration in any forum.
Spot on -{
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I'm not some kid doing my homework- how darew you accuse me of that!
I think the physical violence thing was meant as a little joke on my part - it's actually a full quote from Fonejacker! As a law graduate I think I know the law on assault and battery!
I just find it odd that people hijack threads in this way. There was a Bond reference in my first post in this thread if you actually went back and read it!
I wish you well, minigeff - sincerely I mean that. Can't we be friends again (if we ever were)?
Make tea, not war!
XOXO
Dalton - the weak and weepy Bond!