GoldenEye I also think is outstanding, although my opinion of the later Brosnan films is not quite as high.
I almost stopped watching Goldeneye after the first five minutes where a falling James Bond catches up with a falling airplane, thereby defying the concepts known as terminal velocity and drag. It was simply impossible (Google it, you'll see what I mean. Or maybe not).
haha yeah I actually rewatched that recently and was sitting here trying to work out the physics!
I came to the conclusion it didn't make too much sense but was still a phenomenal ending to a superlative action sequence, so I didn't care!
That's not what I said...but do you believe everything that's on Google ?
No, not everything... but there are good sources and bad sources in the same Google search, right?
Actually...in this case...no
There are numerous articles, including some from very reliable sources, that state Skyfall faced budget cuts which forced a reduction in location shooting. So actually in this case, yes there are good sources. The production team did a great job overcoming the budgets cuts as I believe the film is gorgeous.
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No, not everything... but there are good sources and bad sources in the same Google search, right?
Actually...in this case...no
There are numerous articles, including some from very reliable sources, that state Skyfall faced budget cuts which forced a reduction in location shooting. So actually in this case, yes there are good sources. The production team did a great job overcoming the budgets cuts as I believe the film is gorgeous.
Well...that depends upon how good your 'sources' are
There are numerous articles, including some from very reliable sources, that state Skyfall faced budget cuts which forced a reduction in location shooting. So actually in this case, yes there are good sources. The production team did a great job overcoming the budgets cuts as I believe the film is gorgeous.
Well...that depends upon how good your 'sources' are
To be perfectly honest... I think you just don't want to admit there were budget cuts...
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Sir MilesThe Wrong Side Of The WardrobePosts: 27,749Chief of Staff
There are numerous articles, including some from very reliable sources, that state Skyfall faced budget cuts which forced a reduction in location shooting. So actually in this case, yes there are good sources. The production team did a great job overcoming the budgets cuts as I believe the film is gorgeous.
Well...that depends upon how good your 'sources' are
To be perfectly honest... I think you just don't want to admit there were budget cuts...
To be perfectly honest....perhaps I know the truth...
Damn global financial crisis! Due to budget cuts, MI6 also stopped stocking complimentary shaving accessories in the office supply cabinet, so that even shaves are outsourced and agents need to go to Asia to get one )
"...the purposeful slant of his striding figure looked dangerous, as if he was making quickly for something bad that was happening further down the street." -SMERSH on 007 dossier photo, Ch. 6 FRWL.....
I was pleased to see Sky fall beat Les miserable to the outstanding British film award at the baftas, Judy Dench nearly fell out of her chair, I think it was genuine delight and surprise.
I think it’s the first major award for a bond move.
I just watched Skyfall for the first time and I loved it! It was such a good film and kept me on the edge of my seat. I loved the subtle nods to previous films, such as Q asking Bond if he'd like an exploding pen and the 'new' room for M being like the Benerd Lee M days.
I liked that we finally got some on screen looks into who Bond's parents were and their names, beyond just their mentioning in GoldenEye and maybe a few others. I also liked that Moneypenny has returned and we get to see her in a different light before her returning to the role we know her best. When the first started showing the pictures of the new Q, I wasn't completely sold on the idea....but that has now changed and I really look forward to seeing how they progress these characters.
The action scenes were some of the best in the series, the locations, especally on the boat to that island I thought were breath taking. The title sequence is one of my favorites now, the theme song is fantastic and has that old school Bond feel to it.
Even though it was at the end of the movie....again, Skyfall's gunbarrel scene is my favorite of Craig's three.
Is it me or did Severine have a Natalya/Xenia feel to her? And on a similar note, when Bond was leaving the casino, did he pass the Asian guy who was in the main card game in Casino Royale? It looked like him.
For me Skyfall lived up to and surpassed expectations that I had for it and I just hope that they can carry this on into the next one. I give it a 5/5. Just a superb movie.
1, GE 2, CR 3, SF 4, TWINE 5, Spectre 6, TMWTGG 7, DAD 8, LALD 9, AVTAK 10, LTK 11, Octopussy 12, Moonraker 13, TLD 14, GF 15, QOS 16, Tomorrow 17, FYEO 18. TSWLM Not seen much: Dr. No, Russia, Thunderball, Twice, Majesty.
1: Brosnan 2: Craig 3: Moore 4: Dalton 5: Connery and 6: Lazenby
Hated Skyfall at the cinema. However I thought I'd give it a second chance so I rented it on iTunes on the weekend. Got bored half way through and didn't bother watching the rest. The film is well executed cinematically but the writing is weak and the story line failed to hold me.
Hi Delicious, read my new posts on the film's subtexts to see where they were going with it. It's on the hype died down thread. Though I agree with you.
If they want to revive Bond they need to do the following:
(1) ask the fans what they love about Bond and cater to that (that's why Star Trek is still so good and popular)
(2) take the focus off Bond and put it back on the villain - Bond began to be the focus with GE and the writing has steadily encroached on him ever since to the point where he has almost been psycho-analyzed out of existence
(3) bring back the joy and lightness of Bond - in a world which is becoming more serious and grim by the day, we need to escape - bring back the gadgets, the exotic locations, the humour and the sex.
(4) make sure everything that happens means something and contributes to the plot and themes - SF was a mess
(5) make the action and logic of the film believable (allowing for the usual physics-defying action of course)
(6) make the villain's plan something that deserves Bond's attention - missing hard drives and secret water supplies don't cut it
If they want to revive Bond they need to do the following:
(1) ask the fans what they love about Bond and cater to that (that's why Star Trek is still so good and popular)
(2) take the focus off Bond and put it back on the villain - Bond began to be the focus with GE and the writing has steadily encroached on him ever since to the point where he has almost been psycho-analyzed out of existence
(3) bring back the joy and lightness of Bond - in a world which is becoming more serious and grim by the day, we need to escape - bring back the gadgets, the exotic locations, the humour and the sex.
(4) make sure everything that happens means something and contributes to the plot and themes - SF was a mess
(5) make the action and logic of the film believable (allowing for the usual physics-defying action of course)
(6) make the villain's plan something that deserves Bond's attention - missing hard drives and secret water supplies don't cut it
Revive Bond???
I think with Skyfall being the biggest Bond film ever etc I dont think EON will be changing the formula as Bond is very much alive and well
If they want to revive Bond they need to do the following:
(1) ask the fans what they love about Bond and cater to that (that's why Star Trek is still so good and popular)
(2) take the focus off Bond and put it back on the villain - Bond began to be the focus with GE and the writing has steadily encroached on him ever since to the point where he has almost been psycho-analyzed out of existence
(3) bring back the joy and lightness of Bond - in a world which is becoming more serious and grim by the day, we need to escape - bring back the gadgets, the exotic locations, the humour and the sex.
(4) make sure everything that happens means something and contributes to the plot and themes - SF was a mess
(5) make the action and logic of the film believable (allowing for the usual physics-defying action of course)
(6) make the villain's plan something that deserves Bond's attention - missing hard drives and secret water supplies don't cut it
Revive Bond???
I think with Skyfall being the biggest Bond film ever etc I dont think EON will be changing the formula as Bond is very much alive and well
Absolutely! It sounds like our friend delicious is lobbying for a return to the Roger Moore era Bond. Sorry, but that time has passed.
Oh, I think I caught a few Nods to the Moore era in Skyfall. )
Among others! (Most obviously the DB5) But it WAS the 50th anniversary movie, so that's only natural. It was handled more subtly than the 40th anniversary nods in DAD.
If they want to revive Bond they need to do the following:
(1) ask the fans what they love about Bond and cater to that (that's why Star Trek is still so good and popular)
(2) take the focus off Bond and put it back on the villain - Bond began to be the focus with GE and the writing has steadily encroached on him ever since to the point where he has almost been psycho-analyzed out of existence
(3) bring back the joy and lightness of Bond - in a world which is becoming more serious and grim by the day, we need to escape - bring back the gadgets, the exotic locations, the humour and the sex.
(4) make sure everything that happens means something and contributes to the plot and themes - SF was a mess
(5) make the action and logic of the film believable (allowing for the usual physics-defying action of course)
(6) make the villain's plan something that deserves Bond's attention - missing hard drives and secret water supplies don't cut it
Revive Bond???
I think with Skyfall being the biggest Bond film ever etc I dont think EON will be changing the formula as Bond is very much alive and well
Commercial success does not indicate quality. Casino Royale is the only good Daniel Craig Bond film to date. QoS and SF were both terrible. As I said in my original review, SF was like a really intense sales pitch to try and convince us that Bond is good - I didnt fall for it but a lot of people obviously did. It was like some one shouting to get their point across as though volume makes up for meaning.
If they want to revive Bond they need to do the following:
(1) ask the fans what they love about Bond and cater to that (that's why Star Trek is still so good and popular)
(2) take the focus off Bond and put it back on the villain - Bond began to be the focus with GE and the writing has steadily encroached on him ever since to the point where he has almost been psycho-analyzed out of existence
(3) bring back the joy and lightness of Bond - in a world which is becoming more serious and grim by the day, we need to escape - bring back the gadgets, the exotic locations, the humour and the sex.
(4) make sure everything that happens means something and contributes to the plot and themes - SF was a mess
(5) make the action and logic of the film believable (allowing for the usual physics-defying action of course)
(6) make the villain's plan something that deserves Bond's attention - missing hard drives and secret water supplies don't cut it
You do realise the new Trek films are intensely divise for Trekkies right? I mean, I enjoy the movies and they are good... but they are absolutely terrible TREK films. They just don't fit the series to me.
As for a Bond reboot.. sadly, since Skyfall wooed enough people somehow we are stuck with this overtly gritty, dark, brooding bond that has to opine about aging and a chanign world for a few more films I fear. O well, at least it will eventually get back to it in a decade or so. I mean, I got through the Moore years with only a few true gems and survived to the powerhouse Dalton and Brosnan films (DAD not included...).
Top Ten Bond - 10:Goldfinger 9:Thunderball 8:The Spy who Loved Me 7:For Your Eyes Only 6: Casino Royale 5:The Man with the Golden Gun 4:Quantum of Solace 3:Licence to Kill 2:Goldeneye 1:The Living Daylights
Sir MilesThe Wrong Side Of The WardrobePosts: 27,749Chief of Staff
If they want to revive Bond they need to do the following:
(1) ask the fans what they love about Bond and cater to that (that's why Star Trek is still so good and popular)
(2) take the focus off Bond and put it back on the villain - Bond began to be the focus with GE and the writing has steadily encroached on him ever since to the point where he has almost been psycho-analyzed out of existence
(3) bring back the joy and lightness of Bond - in a world which is becoming more serious and grim by the day, we need to escape - bring back the gadgets, the exotic locations, the humour and the sex.
(4) make sure everything that happens means something and contributes to the plot and themes - SF was a mess
(5) make the action and logic of the film believable (allowing for the usual physics-defying action of course)
(6) make the villain's plan something that deserves Bond's attention - missing hard drives and secret water supplies don't cut it
Revive Bond???
I think with Skyfall being the biggest Bond film ever etc I dont think EON will be changing the formula as Bond is very much alive and well
Commercial success does not indicate quality. Casino Royale is the only good Daniel Craig Bond film to date. QoS and SF were both terrible. As I said in my original review, SF was like a really intense sales pitch to try and convince us that Bond is good - I didnt fall for it but a lot of people obviously did. It was like some one shouting to get their point across as though volume makes up for meaning.
According to you, that is. Your review is no indication of quality either - its subjective.
According to you, that is. Your review is no indication of quality either - its subjective.
Absolutely spot on Sir!! -{
It does make me smile when I read such "empty" claims such as the one that you commented upon. Surely to god people can accept that not all of us think the same way or have the same tastes ... one man's poison & all that??!
For the record I thoroughly enjoyed Skyfall and I also enjoyed QoS. Without shouting about it ...
As I said in my original review, SF was like a really intense sales pitch to try and convince us that Bond is good - I didnt fall for it but a lot of people obviously did.
Or perhaps those of us who felt SF was a very good Bond film didn't "fall for" anything, but instead we were able to discern qualities that you somehow failed to grasp? I understand that you didn't think much of Skyfall, but do you really have to be so condenscending towards the viewers that did? Sheesh! ?:)
As I said in my original review, SF was like a really intense sales pitch to try and convince us that Bond is good - I didnt fall for it but a lot of people obviously did.
Or perhaps those of us who felt SF was a very good Bond film didn't "fall for" anything, but instead we were able to discern qualities that you somehow failed to grasp? I understand that you didn't think much of Skyfall, but do you really have to be so condenscending towards the viewers that did? Sheesh! ?:)
I for one don't hate SF, but I do feel that it did not fully live up to it's promise, or realise it's ambitions so I find it frustrating rather than bad as it was so nearly superb. In some ways it's the DAD of the Craig era for me (although nowhere near the Train wreck that DAD was ) I think we should be able to acknowledge it's flaws whilst recognising it as a superior entry than many of the series ( I have it pegged at about 5 or 6 overall) but it could have been so much higher.
As I said in my original review, SF was like a really intense sales pitch to try and convince us that Bond is good - I didnt fall for it but a lot of people obviously did.
Or perhaps those of us who felt SF was a very good Bond film didn't "fall for" anything, but instead we were able to discern qualities that you somehow failed to grasp? I understand that you didn't think much of Skyfall, but do you really have to be so condenscending towards the viewers that did? Sheesh! ?:)
I for one don't hate SF, but I do feel that it did not fully live up to it's promise, or realise it's ambitions so I find it frustrating rather than bad as it was so nearly superb. In some ways it's the DAD of the Craig era for me (although nowhere near the Train wreck that DAD was ) I think we should be able to acknowledge it's flaws whilst recognising it as a superior entry than many of the series ( I have it pegged at about 5 or 6 overall) but it could have been so much higher.
I don't disagree with you, Zap (although the DAD comparison escapes me), but I get somewhat annoyed when someone suggests, as delicious does, that the only folks who think SF is a good Bond film are those foolish enough to "fall for" the flim-flam. That's pretty insulting, if you ask me.
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haha yeah I actually rewatched that recently and was sitting here trying to work out the physics!
I came to the conclusion it didn't make too much sense but was still a phenomenal ending to a superlative action sequence, so I didn't care!
lol!!
Movies: The Spy Who Loved Me. Actor: Pierce Brosnan. Theme: You Only Live Twice. :D
Roger Moore 1927-2017
My guess would be Spinnaker Tower in Portsmouth although I could be entirely wrong.
Just researched it....it was shot at Broadgate Tower in London.
There are numerous articles, including some from very reliable sources, that state Skyfall faced budget cuts which forced a reduction in location shooting. So actually in this case, yes there are good sources. The production team did a great job overcoming the budgets cuts as I believe the film is gorgeous.
Well...that depends upon how good your 'sources' are
To be perfectly honest... I think you just don't want to admit there were budget cuts...
Movies: The Spy Who Loved Me. Actor: Pierce Brosnan. Theme: You Only Live Twice. :D
To be perfectly honest....perhaps I know the truth...
You just link to Google 8-)
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Damn global financial crisis! Due to budget cuts, MI6 also stopped stocking complimentary shaving accessories in the office supply cabinet, so that even shaves are outsourced and agents need to go to Asia to get one
lol yah I kinda thought that was bad timing xD
Movies: The Spy Who Loved Me. Actor: Pierce Brosnan. Theme: You Only Live Twice. :D
I think it’s the first major award for a bond move.
I liked that we finally got some on screen looks into who Bond's parents were and their names, beyond just their mentioning in GoldenEye and maybe a few others. I also liked that Moneypenny has returned and we get to see her in a different light before her returning to the role we know her best. When the first started showing the pictures of the new Q, I wasn't completely sold on the idea....but that has now changed and I really look forward to seeing how they progress these characters.
The action scenes were some of the best in the series, the locations, especally on the boat to that island I thought were breath taking. The title sequence is one of my favorites now, the theme song is fantastic and has that old school Bond feel to it.
Even though it was at the end of the movie....again, Skyfall's gunbarrel scene is my favorite of Craig's three.
Is it me or did Severine have a Natalya/Xenia feel to her? And on a similar note, when Bond was leaving the casino, did he pass the Asian guy who was in the main card game in Casino Royale? It looked like him.
For me Skyfall lived up to and surpassed expectations that I had for it and I just hope that they can carry this on into the next one. I give it a 5/5. Just a superb movie.
1: Brosnan 2: Craig 3: Moore 4: Dalton 5: Connery and 6: Lazenby
Roger Moore 1927-2017
http://youtu.be/pKDSiI7rnAA
Pierce Brosnan On The New James Bond
(1) ask the fans what they love about Bond and cater to that (that's why Star Trek is still so good and popular)
(2) take the focus off Bond and put it back on the villain - Bond began to be the focus with GE and the writing has steadily encroached on him ever since to the point where he has almost been psycho-analyzed out of existence
(3) bring back the joy and lightness of Bond - in a world which is becoming more serious and grim by the day, we need to escape - bring back the gadgets, the exotic locations, the humour and the sex.
(4) make sure everything that happens means something and contributes to the plot and themes - SF was a mess
(5) make the action and logic of the film believable (allowing for the usual physics-defying action of course)
(6) make the villain's plan something that deserves Bond's attention - missing hard drives and secret water supplies don't cut it
Revive Bond???
I think with Skyfall being the biggest Bond film ever etc I dont think EON will be changing the formula as Bond is very much alive and well
Absolutely! It sounds like our friend delicious is lobbying for a return to the Roger Moore era Bond. Sorry, but that time has passed.
Among others! (Most obviously the DB5) But it WAS the 50th anniversary movie, so that's only natural. It was handled more subtly than the 40th anniversary nods in DAD.
had a few "Double taking " pigeons.
They'll be back- just be patient....
Commercial success does not indicate quality. Casino Royale is the only good Daniel Craig Bond film to date. QoS and SF were both terrible. As I said in my original review, SF was like a really intense sales pitch to try and convince us that Bond is good - I didnt fall for it but a lot of people obviously did. It was like some one shouting to get their point across as though volume makes up for meaning.
You do realise the new Trek films are intensely divise for Trekkies right? I mean, I enjoy the movies and they are good... but they are absolutely terrible TREK films. They just don't fit the series to me.
As for a Bond reboot.. sadly, since Skyfall wooed enough people somehow we are stuck with this overtly gritty, dark, brooding bond that has to opine about aging and a chanign world for a few more films I fear. O well, at least it will eventually get back to it in a decade or so. I mean, I got through the Moore years with only a few true gems and survived to the powerhouse Dalton and Brosnan films (DAD not included...).
According to you, that is. Your review is no indication of quality either - its subjective.
Absolutely spot on Sir!! -{
It does make me smile when I read such "empty" claims such as the one that you commented upon. Surely to god people can accept that not all of us think the same way or have the same tastes ... one man's poison & all that??!
For the record I thoroughly enjoyed Skyfall and I also enjoyed QoS. Without shouting about it ...
Or perhaps those of us who felt SF was a very good Bond film didn't "fall for" anything, but instead we were able to discern qualities that you somehow failed to grasp? I understand that you didn't think much of Skyfall, but do you really have to be so condenscending towards the viewers that did? Sheesh! ?:)
I for one don't hate SF, but I do feel that it did not fully live up to it's promise, or realise it's ambitions so I find it frustrating rather than bad as it was so nearly superb. In some ways it's the DAD of the Craig era for me (although nowhere near the Train wreck that DAD was ) I think we should be able to acknowledge it's flaws whilst recognising it as a superior entry than many of the series ( I have it pegged at about 5 or 6 overall) but it could have been so much higher.
I don't disagree with you, Zap (although the DAD comparison escapes me), but I get somewhat annoyed when someone suggests, as delicious does, that the only folks who think SF is a good Bond film are those foolish enough to "fall for" the flim-flam. That's pretty insulting, if you ask me.